Exactly how do Glassdoor expect people to give earnest reviews of their employers (which is literally the core of their business) if those people can't trust Glassdoor to not to throw them under the bus when they give honest reviews of malicious employers?
Talk about sabotaging your own business model - idiots.
And sometimes it's not just corporate suck. I've literally had the CIO of a construction contractor berate me on the phone before I had started. Needless to say I didn't take their offer
Was a long time ago but I remember it was something small like I had used my old snail mail address on my resume vs my cover-letter.
But hey they bought me lunch so it wasn't a total lost and I got to see all the people running the place act like total assholes to each other. So dinner and a show.
I've had a couple of good jobs where I was treated well and compensated well all around. Companies like that would be glad to have reviews from happy employees visible to the public on a trustworthy review site.
There's the normal suck, then there's "I (been there 12 years) got passed up for promotion to replace my boss who retired because the owner's nephew who worked with us for a few years (sucked and "volentarely" left 6 years ago) decided their cyptoscheme wasn't working out and needed a job, and that was the highest one paying one avalible."
Or the "Sally got verably harassed dailiy and they did nothing because the harrasser has been there 30 years. 'He's just an old man in his early 50s, older gentlemen call ladies nicknames like sweetcakes, honey, or cutie all the time. They also like to rub peoples shoulders to show affec to help relive the tension and promote a healthier work environment' "
Ok, but if your expectations are permanent nerfed you're gonna be a much easier mark... Plus tacit acceptance of a shitty status quo is pretty self-defeating.
Ok, but if your expectations are permanent nerfed you’re gonna be a much easier mark… Plus tacit acceptance of a shitty status quo is pretty self-defeating.
Thank you for saying this.
I don't get how so many people are so willing to just pull down their pants and bend over, instead of pushing back.
Some are much more capable of disguising it during the interview process.
In the tech industry around the pandemic there was the great resignation and companies were tripping over themselves to employ as many people as possible. It was great then because you had so many options and they were all seemingly similar job descriptions.
Now the site is shitty and getting a job is terrible. Woo capitalism!
Frankly I never trusted Glassdoor. I assume most reviews are made by the companies HR department to lie about how great it is. I just need to look at the reviews of the companies I've worked for to see that it's 99% bullshit.
Don't trust employers. They lie to you and underpay you.
There was one place a friend worked where all the glassdoor reviews said there were "growing pains". I don't think that many normal people who have intact souls would describe startup dysfunction as "growing pains."
Because it's worth knowing beforehand what a company is really like behind closed doors.
Some companies are great, some suck in standard corporate fashion, but there are some out there that are exceptional in sucking...
I'll use myself an example... the last company I worked for, our team was constantly given deadlines that were impossible to meet within work hours. The company basically refused to pay for what was essentially mandatory overtime required to catch up - wage theft by a different name.
Fortunately my role allowed me to push back, but most of peers didn't - we were all straight out of university, some needed the money/job, but most just didn't know how to fight in the corporate environment.
Not to mention that a few folks who did try to complain against the company conveniently found themselves fired for some miscellaneous breaches of contract. From what I heard, one was even fired based on their reaction to being told they were being dismissed - quite literally entrapment.
If you're wondering why we didn't sue or anything like that, again we were all straight out of uni, we barely knew what our working rights were...
Which is why Glassdoor was important - it was how most of these folks got word out about the company and tried to warn other potential candidates of what they were walking into.
The company knew about it too because they posted multiple fake reviews to try to drown out the real ones. I know for a fact that if they were able to find out who posted these, they would have retaliated, likely in the form of litigation.
This kind of thing is what has always kept me from using Blind as well.
A site used to talk shit about your current employor that has a registration process that requires you to hand out your work email, and they pinky promise not to ever provide that to anyone?
No thanks, even if they would never do it on purpose, they are one good breach away from it getting out anyway.
I just went in and manually edited my display name to my previous asshole of a boss. Two can play this game. If they want to get rid of anonymous content, then let them deal with poisoned content.
I put a review up for my previous employer a while back. My whole profile uses fake data. Even in my review, since it would be very obvious who I was, I was light on details and generalized as much as I could and used false dates for when I was hired/left.
Uh, reminder that these giant corporations don't shop for lawyers like you or I would have to, they're already on retainer. It would literally cost them nothing they're not already paying to sue someone (except their reputation, which they've already thrown away).
Right, but you're not talking about Glass Door. You're talking about another cooperation reacting to information on Glass Door. Most companies in the US are small businesses without the resources to go after people on websites in general, and if you're obfuscated your identity before posting on glassdoor, then you just double to tripled the price of the lawsuit in lawyer time filing motions to uncover your identity.
I have about 5 or 6 aliases, full blown characters that live in my head, each with different names, addresses and backstories that I use. Even they lie about their personal circumstances sometimes. For example, on LinkedIn, John Longson works at Longson and Longson consulting, but he's the only employee, and he actually just works at a thrift store with a side hustle of selling second hand clothes on etsy under an alias.
Mine are usually just remixes of my ancestors, for example ill just combine two random ancestors names and where one of them was from. Why yes random website I am Shadrak McNulty born in Littlerock Arkansas.
I guess that's one strategy but that's too much work for me. I just pay for unique email forwarding addresses to my main email and use fakenamegenerator.com for filling out fake PII. Also a password manager is key
Right, I forgot that LinkedIn calls contacts "connection", doesn't it? I meant it in the sense of messaging them.
I have it for talking to past coworkers (in case I need a reference or want to discuss equity or something) and for talking to recruiters when I am looking for a job. My past two jobs I heard about via LinkedIn messages.
Sound advice, but if this article is any indication, corporate web2 now anticipates garbage. The junk presumably gets backfilled with their best attempt at quality data where it can be found. It true, it invites potential contributors to think carefully about their opsec.
Glass door used to be interesting, but this site is total trash now. You can’t do anything without creating an account and filling out a bunch of shit. That site is basically a dark pattern hall of fame.
They probably really crippled the long term growth of that company by making stupid short term greedy decisions that killed the user experience and scared people away.
According to the article, people generally don't use their real info on this site, but the site is making dubious inferences that allow them to pull the info from other sources to auto-populate the 'real' fields in their site.
Pretty sure it would just be lying since you know, no financial gain. Except it isn't even full lying since I did tell the truth about the company. I admit I might have gone a bit over the top when they announced that they bought another company and I tracked down every employee of that company to write them an email detailing exactly how they would be gutted with references to other companies that had been bought up and suffered the same fate by the same new parent company. Then of course found out they still had a fax number and sent them a fax. Had to make sure IT didn't try to hide it.
Maybe don't buy a small engineering/manufacturing company, outsource it all to China, and and all the while slash R&D + personal and you won't have people over a decade later still bashing you on Glassdoor.
perhaps deliver him a spicy bottle. Although for legal reasons. This statement is merely a reflection of modern satirical humor, and is commentating on the modern socio-political climate.
I signed up for GD with a semi-throwaway email account - not an actual throwaway, but it’s not tied to my real identity, not used for anything but spammy sites where I didn’t want to give them my info. Every site got a made up name.
Wonder what name they’ll slap on the account when they try to farm “my” data from a broker.
I lie shamelessly to companies when signing up these days. They get fake DoBs, names, aliased emails, fake addresses, phones, the lot. Let them out that data on my profile without consent, hopefully they aren't going to expend resources to penetrate that veil.
They dont even have to pay to expend resources. People will buy that shit, sort through it, then sell it to turn a profit. The advertising industry is a cancer to the human race.
That's explained in the article. If Glassdoor somehow learns of the real name of an account they'll silently add that information to the account. Glassdoor is meant to be anonymous so such action can lead to repercussions.
They were automatically updating their profiles with info from 3rd party sources. This resulted in personal information being displayed without consent or warning, and wild inaccuracies like updating a profile to say a man was based in london when he was still very much in california
That's a fantastically efficient way to destroy their business. There's no way to get honest reviews of employers from employees who know their identities will be exposed whether they consent or not. Doesn't even matter if the review is after leaving that job, future employers can go nosing too.
This is what happens right before the major money holders abandon ship. There’s no way they don’t know this is business-suicide. I bet they got a big payday from some companies that paid Glassdoor to shoot itself in the face!
The search and thread managment would be a nightmare, no? You'd need a thread for every company (larger ones needing multiple split by department or location).
There's probably a hundred business with in a mile of me.
Even if you splinter communities by location, the search would be difficult.