jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

S-Rank. Everyone knows it's above A-Class. ;)

https://www.giantbomb.com/s-rank/3015-2962/

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Also known as the Sigma male. Probably my favorite meme to come out of all the alpha male toxic bs

kippinitreal ,

Wasn't that one YouTube douche who kept talking about "snoozer male (very rare)", " sigma male (super rare)"... or are they all memes now?

feedum_sneedson ,

shrigma, somehow mushroom-based

6mementomori ,

even better: P rank
tenebre rosso sangue intensifies

jkozaka ,
@jkozaka@lemm.ee avatar

The Pi/Rho males are coming.

Rho if you want the "P" glyph, Pi if you want the "P" sound

WilloftheWest ,
@WilloftheWest@feddit.uk avatar

Let’s hope the incel top brass don’t discover Devil May Cry or we’ll soon have an SS-male and an SSS-male above sigma.

carl_dungeon ,

No they literally did that already too, that’s why you hear other Greek letters like sigma males and all that bullshit.

Wogi ,

Join us in the twin diesel turbo dude club.

carl_dungeon ,

“We go full cock diesel in this club!”

dditty ,
@dditty@lemm.ee avatar
Wogi ,

YOU DON'T RUN

MisterFrog ,
@MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

How is sigma higher than alpha?

Honytawk ,

It is about 18 letters higher

MisterFrog ,
@MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Or 18 letters lower. The start is usually "better", getting an A on a paper is better than C, or being 1st in the world, rather than 18th.

I guess alphanumerically, sigma corresponds to a higher number, but I'm not sure if I've ever seen things ordered like that before. You start a list a α, not σ.

That's my take anyway.

emergencyfood ,

In many Asian countries, 'S' is a grade higher than 'A'. The idea is that it should be given rarely, to those who are off the scales good. But due to inflation, now there can be SS / S+ and even SSS / S++.

Scew ,
@Scew@lemmy.world avatar

You start a list however you need given the context. It's arbitrary.

As an example when doing time calculations in programming, UNIX time is the number of seconds that have passed since January 1st, 1970. If you needed a list ordered most recent to oldest, the highest number would be first.

To bring it back to you, a 100 is a better numerical grade than a 1. The alphabetical identifiers attached to grades are in reverse order to their numerical counterparts, which is even more fun because the person with the highest number and the earliest letter are considered "best." However, in some card games (Uno for example) having the lowest number is best when determining score.

chatokun ,

I'm not sure, but these two things may be part of it:

  1. They think being sigma means you're out of the whole hierarchy. You're a noble lone sole, above all this alpha and beta stuff (so just lone wolf renamed)
  2. In Anime and some other similar media, including some games, the scale is S at top, then A, B, C, D, E, F, etc. S-rank is better than A, and is usually only surpassed by more Ss(SS rank, SSS Rank, etc). Sometimes there's stuff like U rank etc.
jkozaka ,
@jkozaka@lemm.ee avatar

Don't forget P rank in a few games.

Mango ,

Ok well then I'm super sigma 2.

DessertStorms ,
@DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

That's what all social constructs and the bigotry based around them are, and a good example of why hierarchies are destructive.

FunkyMonk ,

Some fuckers never got past the infinity + 1 shit. Also Goku always wins, duh.

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Except the like 27 times he got killed.

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

He got better

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Salt tablet.

520 ,

That is literally how 'sigma' males came to be.

BarrelAgedBoredom ,

Sigma balls

Revan343 ,

Haha gottem

blanketswithsmallpox ,

Gotten Males on the rise! Invest invest invest!

Kusimulkku ,

First sighting in the wild of a true sigma male (2024)

databender ,
@databender@lemmy.world avatar

How could you write this and not go for "Turbro"?

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Probably the same reason people use himbo instead of bimbro for a male bimbo

jackhp95 ,
driving_crooner ,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

This gifs dosen't charge of jerboa :/

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

My 27yo incel nephew during the holidays had a hissy fit and called me a beta and really put himself in the alpha seat.

Which was weird, because I picked him up from my sister's house, drove him here, and also had to drop him back off as a favor to my sister.

I dunno what internet or what he thinks alphas are but oooof.

Skates ,

So you chauffered him around for free, no strings attached, and are now wondering why he thinks he's royalty.

Next time you help him out, drop him off in the nearby woods with a camera, asking for a video on how alphas hunt.

Delphia ,

No... there just isnt a next time.

"Hey can you..."

"Nah, Ive got too much Beta shit going on. Buying soy candles, yoga... tell him to find an Alpha way home. Tame a wild horse, Run with a wolf pack or some shit. NMFP."

doppelgangmember ,

This 😆

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

I am a beta to my sister because I love her and will fulfill favors for her unconditionally.

wildginger ,

Next time you give him a ride, make a pit stop.

"Yeah Ill get you where your mom asked me to get you, but you sit here in the car while I go grab some groceries I need. You can have the windows down a little if you like."

Turns the power dynamic around real quick.

CADmonkey ,

"Want me to leave the radio on, little buddy?"

JackFrostNCola ,

Also: "Do you want me to get you a chocolate bar or some lollies champ?"

Riven ,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I understand where you're coming from but at the very least I hope you call him out on his shit. He's 27 not 17.

HappycamperNZ ,

Apparently the concept of alpha male in wolves came from those observed in captivity.

Sure there's a link there

maniclucky ,

I'm not sure about the captivity thing, but I do know that what were originally asserted to be 'alphas' were the breeding pairs. They were parents leading their children.

seaweedsheep ,

There was a very flawed study years ago where a biologist observed wolves in captivity and determined that they fight for dominance within the pack. Later, he realized that in a natural setting, a pack is a breeding pair and their pups, as you stated. A natural pack is much more cohesive and doesn't have a strict hierarchy, but the ridiculous myth of "alpha wolves" won't go away completely, despite the same biologist's efforts.

LemmysMum ,

A lie will go round the world twice before the truth has it's shoes tied.

schmorpel ,
@schmorpel@slrpnk.net avatar

Because we've caged ourselves and behave like the captured wolves of the study, including the Alpha male shit.

EmergMemeHologram ,

What was the drive back like? Lol

My 12 year old nephew is also into this stuff... I worry for him, but I was also an idiot at 12.

Hackerman_uwu ,

“Ron Iver” sounds like a boomer indie artist.

HakFoo ,

Can we wait for "Release Male". I've been left holding the bag on Early Access BS too often.

RandomVideos ,

Ah yes, a paper about wolves following a leader which was disproven by the same person that made it obviously applies to humans

The average pack size in North America is eight wolves and in Europe 5.5 wolves, with the biggest being 42

The largest human "pack" size is 37800000

i couldnt find the average size of a city, only the largest

42 is sightly smaller than 37800000 so studies on wolves about social structure might be wrong if you replaces wolves with humans

danielbln ,

I hear you, but you counter is a little disingenuous. A city isn't your pack, your social circle is. And that's probably smaller than 42. Just because you're in a city of millions doesn't mean you directly interact with them in a social way, we are still animals of small social groups, even if we live in a global space of billions. The alpha male stuff is still bunk science trash of course.

Syrc ,

Aren’t Alpha males (and females) an actual thing in many species, like primates? I thought just the wolves one was disproven (not that it means anything for human dynamics of course).

clb92 ,

As a European, I gotta tell you, it's super creepy seeing those half wolves walk around with their packs... You guys are lucky your wolves decided to split up in 8-packs instead.

schmorpel ,
@schmorpel@slrpnk.net avatar

So which way do you split an Alpha male - lengthwise? or upper/lower body? Asking for a friend

clb92 ,

Very randomly. Some of them consist of only four legs, the tail and the head - no body.

Agent641 ,

Some real roadside picnic shit

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Half wolves? We have that?

urist ,
@urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’ve seen pictures. Very eerie how they manage with only two legs.

Asafum ,

And somehow they always end up in parliament.

:P

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

I feel like there’s a joke here I’m not getting.

clb92 ,

It was a joke based on: "The average pack size [...] in Europe 5.5 wolves"

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Ooh. Well I feel supremely dumb.

wildginger ,

There are also actually half wolves, where wild dogs cross breed with wolves.

dojan ,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

This I know. Though as far as I'm aware we don't have any here in Sweden at least. We barely have any wolves. There are no wild/stray dogs either.

Anticorp ,

Does the half wolf in Europe go to another pack, or is it eaten?

SkyeHarith ,

It’s half a wolf in Europe and half a wolf in the Atlantic Ocean. Duh

Anticorp ,

Oh, I missed the obvious answer. It swims to North America to find a place where they allow larger packs.

meyotch ,

There are two half-wolves inside of you, both left halves. It smells terrible

RandomVideos ,

There are actually 6 0.8(3) wolves

RandomVideos ,

There are 6 wolves, but the alpha counts as 0.5

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

The largest human “pack” size is 37800000

Dunbar's number would suggest otherwise. Human "pack" size is closer to 150. Past that, you really don't recognize or interact with people to consider them peers.

But the rise of "Alpha Male" psychology seems to be paired with the gamification of dating, particularly via for-profit web apps. There's all this meta-psychology blossoming around a simple mathematical problem of too-many-dudes for too-few-women in a setting that rewards aggressiveness.

What we have is a totally artificial environment lauded by bunch of NEET libertarian techbros who are then forced to rationalize why they can't use it to get laid. In some sense, its like that scene from "A Beautiful Mind" except replace John Nash with Andrew Tate, and he's telling everyone at the table to fight to the death over the one blonde girl.

But the heart of the problem isn't simple that humans aren't wolves. It is that you have made of yourself a pack of caged animals and tried to explain the resulting social dysfunction by appealing to naturalism. Even if you were right and there was a chicken-like peaking order rather than a giant dog orgy instilled in the human psyche, you couldn't take advantage of it because you have become locked in a hen house overwhelmingly composed of roosters.

Incidentally, gay dating apps have an entirely different dynamic. There's no "gay alpha male" theory to contend with because they're all in the pile and having the time of their lives.

SuddenDownpour ,

and he’s telling everyone at the table to fight to the death over the one blonde girl.

And to make it even worse, he thinks no man actually likes the girl, or would enjoy being intimate with her. In his mind, "the girl" is only an object of status, something you ought to get to place yourself above other men, either because he's always been a psychopath or because it's been so long since he ever experienced connection with another human being that he doesn't even remember what it is.

wildginger ,

Its cause he is a sex trafficker, and that mindset is where his clients come from.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

"...and then they start jumping up and down on the sofa yelling 'it's turbo time!' And then they start runnin' around the house? And when you try to join in they yell at you and say 'YOU’RE NOT PART OF THE TURBO TEAM! DON’T RUN! YOU DON’T RUN WITH US! WE’RE THE ONES THAT RUN! UNTIL YOU’RE PART OF THIS TURBO TEAM, WALK SLOWLY!' Has that ever happened to you?"

feedum_sneedson ,

I think you mean sigma.

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

I'm not bald enough to be sigma

22decembre ,

Remember what an alpha is ? In video games, it's the first release, extra rough, not yet full clean of a game. It's the test version.

So I propose that we call "alpha males" ... "the test version".

extraowl ,

The reality is even better:

The wolves in the studies that produced an alpha were in captivity with foreign wolves. Meaning that their natural pack social hierarchies didn't exist. It's only when a bunch of random wolves are captured together that they act like this.

Which actually makes this a much better metaphor for people who identify themselves as "Alphas", feeling trapped, lashing out at your neighbours trying desperately to be the one who comes out on top.

wildginger ,

So a prison hierarchy.

Clbull ,

I'm a lean six ligma male

SecretSauces ,
@SecretSauces@lemmy.world avatar

LiGmA? WhAt Is ThAt?

Clbull ,

Ligma balls

meyotch ,

gottem

SecretSauces ,
@SecretSauces@lemmy.world avatar
Twelve20two ,
@Twelve20two@slrpnk.net avatar

I love how that's a png of a gif of a video

Chekhovs_Gun ,

No it's buffering... just got a wait a bit for it to start

Twelve20two ,
@Twelve20two@slrpnk.net avatar

Oh wow, you're right! :0

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