I think this is it. I am so fucking sick of being politically aware. I am tired of knowing that most of the bullshit in the US was caused by Jerry Falwell standing to lose money from desegregation. I am tired of being trans in an idiot state governed by those that fuckers he influenced over 50 years ago. I am tired of only being able to vote or hold a sign. This whole thing is fucked.
I am tired of having literal rocks thrown at me if I dare to speak when my voice doesn't match my presented gender. I am tired of being told that I shouldn't exist. I am tired of being completely ignored at work even with over 20 years in the trade.
I don't know why this sent me over the edge reading this, but I am so ready to cash out my savings and live in a dark bunker, letting an ignorance of this garbage's existence wash over me.
I say this with all of my being: The GOP and neo nazis like this fucker can sit on it and spin.
Most of those backwards transphobic states also make it pretty easy to purchase a concealable firearm and also frequently allow such concealment without much red tape. Food for thought my friend.
Go buy firearms and join/start an LGBTQIA+ militia. Either you train to protect yourself, or you can continue what you are currently doing which is roll over and die in the torrent of hate instead of fighting it back.
I don’t often quote Marx, but this one is highly pertinent:
Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.
Which in my opinion, speaks to the true intent of the Second Amendment, regardless of whatever the Tribunal of Six is trying to mutate it into these days.
You cannot escape bigotry. They spend their free time hating you, it's their fucking hobby and brings them joy. They will eventually find you because they enjoy seeing left-leaning or LGBTQIA people suffering.
You either die soft, slow, dumb, and ignorant to how far they are willing to go to see you gone, or organize and fight it back.
We didn't fight religious fascists and Nazis in WW2 with fucking protests and angry finger waggles and holding up signs.
The thing is, unless they are willing to uproot their life and leave the country for somewhere more tolerant, there is no “getting away from it all”.
These fascist fuck stains have been hugely emboldened by the last 8 years. If Trump ends up winning in November, they can and will start forming posses to target anyone who doesn’t conform to the heteronormative ideal. In that context, being able to defend oneself — and being part of a group that is very much on the same page as you about defending theirselves — actually makes it far more comforting than you may realize.
I was going to link to Tenacious Unicorn Ranch in Colorado as a case study, but apparently they were all evicted over a year ago, despite having a positive rapport with and significant support from the surrounding community. That’s really disheartening to hear. Not sure if there’s any sort of similar communities elsewhere of a similar nature (either as successor organizations or simply philosophically similar ones), but a handful of cursory searches didn’t turn up anything.
If Trans people start open carrying en masse, the state of Texas will have a sudden uptick of scared Uber drivers and maybe the rest of the nation will get more gun control laws a la the Black Panthers, ya know?
Now, if it's concealed carry, they won't have a chance to pull on you before they get a wet sweatshirt, just remember "you were afraid they were going to point it at you."
It means shoot first and claim self-defense like conservatives always do.
I think the "wet sweatshirt" is referring to blood leaking from a wound from the good guy shooting the bad guy before the bad guy could shoot the good guy.
They are already radicalized and continue to do so without stopping.
They already outnumber you and force/infiltrate local governments to enact laws that threaten your existence.
Unless you organize and do the same to counter their actions (LGBTQIA+ friendly militias that train everyday life skills, survival and marksmanship) instead of meekly arguing on the internet, they will fucking destroy you.
I'd rather be destroyed than fundamentally change my entire fucking life. Why are we never allowed to live comfortable, normal lives? Why do we always have to struggle? If they want me dead so badly, so be it. But they'll have to kill me, am unarmed, untrained individual. If there are people ready and willing to do that, then why would I want to live on this evil planet anymore?
You are fearmongering as well, especially when it's not even feasible for most people to go down the path you seem to think we all should. If our choices are die, or die with a gun in hand, I'll just choose to fucking die.
You forget we came from what are essentially violent chimps. You can't ignore the fact that many people only respond to violence because they're still unable to shrug of their chimp behaviors due to years of religious indoctrination.
Go ahead and give up, just don't encourage others to simply lay down and die with you because you feel alone in your acceptance of your shitty fate in life.
Instead you should inspire others to fight back for you since you're too lazy to do it your fucking self
Easy to criticize when you aren't the one at risk of losing your rights. Fuck you. Your fearmongering bullshit is pathetic, you come off as an internet tough guy and it's sad. Have fun acting tough on Lemmy, if that's what gets you off.
It sounds like what I said triggered you, and I sincerely apologize about that. That was not my intent here.
I'm just trying to say if you're okay being a useless person, that's fine.
Just stop encouraging other people to be as useless as you and rather inspirethemtotakeaction and maketheworldbetter instead of sitting on your ass here with me and arguing dumb things like a typical internet dipshit.
Having the tools and knowledge to keep yourself safe does not make you radicalized. That's like saying learning how to swim or getting a boat means you were radicalized by water. Or learning first aid makes you a radicalized combat medic.
Getting a gun is a much less radical plan than changing countries....
Yep, it's rather demoralizing when the side of sanity and critical thought are ranting about getting rid of all firearms, when the other side already has enough firearms to turn a potential civil war into Team America vs. Cavemen Throwing Rocks At Each Other.
Be less like Ghandi and be more like fucking Black Panthers. Or at least support the 2nd Amendment and stop with this pointless bullshit about how we don't need guns because the city police is totally going to have our backs :rollseyes:
If moving to a civilized country is a potential option for you, it could pay off looking into your genealogy.
I grew up in the US and moved to Norway after feeling like the country was nose-diving politically. I remember feeling serious shame for paying taxes to fund such horrendous actions, an unwavering sense of hopelessness, and even serious depression. I remember the first time I realised how much I felt like a foreigner in my own home country, and the existential dread those words brought with them, amplified by the fact that I felt like there was nothing in my power I could do to change that. It was so far beyond awful. I'm struggling to find the words that can accurately convey how bleak and worthless life in the US felt.
And I say this as a cis white man. I've heard horror stories, but I can't possibly imagine what it must be like for trans people in the US, especially in the past several years.
At some point I learned that because my grandmother was born in a certain EU country and fled during WWII, I qualified for citizenship of that country, just by proving my relation to her. It took some time, but I got the documents in order to put together my application, and left everything behind to move to Norway. With EU citizenship, you could move almost anywhere in Europe you choose. I chose Norway for many many reasons, but scandinavia in general is just so incredibly politically refreshing. Regardless of political views, the system itself just... Works.
Since you have 20+ years experience in your field, you might not even need to go though the process of getting a citizenship you may or may not qualify for as a birthright, depending on your profession. Many countries also have immigration laws in place making it extremely easy for skilled workers to relocate there, permanently. I know in Norway, the company hiring the skilled worker can essentially vouch for skilled workers, granting them the right of residency as soon as they're hired. And there are many companies which post job listings in English, without requiring you to know the local language, because... Well, damn near everybody here is completely fluent in English and has no issue speaking English, or even switching to English for entire groups of people, even if only one person struggles with Norwegian.
But anyway, I'm sorry you're forced to feel the way you feel living in your own home country. I can relate to parts of it at least, and even the sum of those parts was unbearable for me. So it saddens me to read messages like yours. I just wanted to offer a suggestion that worked to stop these feelings for me, and ended up being the best damn decision I've ever made in my life.
If you have questions or anything, feel free to send me a message.
I have no idea what you mean. I was told by my grandparents that was my heritage: "German from Russia" both spoke fluent German, not Russian. I can't recall all the details, although they did make a pretty detailed family tree. But if you know better, yay for you, I guess.
Haha we might not get as much nice weather and sun around here as someplace like San Diego, but man, when the weather is as nice as it has been these past few days, we make sure we enjoy the hell out if it. Plus, this time of year we get more daylight hours than most of the world. It's truly spectacular walking outside at 3am this time of year, when the streetlights don't even need to turn on for a couple of months straight.
On the flip side, the winter months are dark and cloudy, with only around 4 hours of daylight for the weeks around the equinox, a few minutes of actual sun if you're lucky and the clouds clear out temporarily. But if you ask me, the glorious summertime sun more than makes up for that.
Plus, when I'm leaving the bar with my friends after last call and one of us faceplants on the concrete, it's comforting to know that calling an ambulance won't bury anyone in debt 😁😂
And here I was thinking you were being a bit tongue in cheek. Don't be so offended that I left the US to live a better life, snowflake. Be glad I'm gone instead.
Excuse my assumption, I'm just very familiar with the defensive patriotism-fuelled reactionary insults from Americans when they learn I live in Norway. I've never met anyone from Europe who had a similarly negative reaction to that, because why would they?
So I guess I'm a bit confused and a little curious as to what made you so sour for seemingly no reason. Care to fill me in?
Nobody likes more Americans (or Russians or Chinese) coming to live in Europe.
All these countries have or recently had leaders that are actively working to destroy the EU.
Ah, so individuals who disagree with the actions of their home country so much that they leave their entire lives behind to find a new home with a governing body they can feel good about supporting with their taxes are the ones to blame for the idiotic behavior of their bought-and-paid-for government representatives?
Being born somewhere doesn't define a person. Not a single person on this planet has control over where they come from, but we do have control over where we go next. Pointing fingers at people who leave the countries they don't want to be a part of and telling them "nobody likes you" without a shred of knowledge about who they are beyond something as inconsequential as the place they happened to be born... It's xenophobic, prejudiced, ignorant behavior, simple as that. And you should work on that.
I bet you'd find that you have a lot more in common with people who uproot their whole lives to separate themselves from their home country than you think, if you talked to some. Most people will at the very least admit openly "yeah, my home country just needs to get it's shit together". Some go as far as renouncing citizenship of their home country after becoming a nationalised citizen in their new home, myself included.
Most immigrants also don't like the actions of their home countries' governments, maybe even its population in general. In fact, it's probably the biggest reason they moved away in the first place. So if they aren't taking those ideals with them when they immigrate, what's there to be bitter about?
It can be hard to communicate tone over text, and I'm running on very little sleep because of exams so I might not be doing the best job of that right now... So I just want to make sure it's clear that it's not my intention to attack or insult you here, and I'm sorry if my message reads like that. I just think you have a viewpoint that is flawed, and I want to outline the flaws I see in a way that might get you to look at things differently and consider things from a different perspective.
There are always exceptions to the rule but I cannot judge over the internet if that applies to you. But in my experience the majority of US citizens (or Russians or Chinese or even Japanese) who move to Europe as adults ultimately do not respect its culture (even if they are absolutely certain they do) and don’t quite get it.
We have a very special unique cosmopolitan thing going on here, and the more US people etc. come here, the more that will get watered down to become more hick-y.
And if Trump wins it could even get very uncomfortable because not everybody will have the courtesy to ask you if you voted right before punching you.
Hey, cash out your savings and live in Taiwan. We are the first Asian country in the world to acknowledge gay marriage and have a vibrant LGBTQ+ community. Even this year's winner for RuPaul's drag race went to a Taiwanese contestant.
We would welcome you with open arms and invite you to work here.
Hey, Alex Jones!....remember asking Nick when he was gonna get married and have kids and you kept telling him how good looking he was and he kept deflecting the subject and telling you that it wasnt his priority? Remember that? Just last week? Remember?
Wasn't Alex Jones caught watching trans porn or something? Between this and that, you can wonder if there's anything real in these people's life. Must be hard to always pretend.
Wait, wasn’t it Nick Fuentes that said sleeping with men was less gay than sleeping with women or something? This is the weasely little fuckface with a voice like Ben Shapiro and a face like a twink fuckboi?
lol I was apparently remembering the first part correctly too:
Fuentes complained about "people calling me gay because I've never had a girlfriend."
"I think if anything — if anything — it makes me less gay. If anything, it makes me not gay — as opposed to less gay, not that there's any gay, but it makes me not gay," he argued.
Fuentes went on to describe how he has never been in a romantic relationship or had sex with a woman, but is "more heterosexual than anybody."
"If we're really being honest, never having a girlfriend, never having sex with a woman, really makes you more heterosexual, because honestly, dating women is gay," he claimed.
Hold up though. So nick definitely went offline as there was a break in the stream. Then his account started broadcasting full screen gay porn. Also there's a telegram handle "groyprape" in the corner that wasn't there before. I mean we already know his... Preferences, but this actually looks like someone got a hold of his api key.
Okay, let's pretend someone stole his api and made him look like a hypocrite, why would it matter and why would you point that out? Being honorable towards a nazi is usually a nazi protecting a fellow nazi.
Have you ever heard Fuentes speak? He is an admitted nazi, not someone who hides it.
I point it out because I dislike seeing the side I identify with using the tactics of the side I don't identify with.
If the left wants to use misinformation and lies they are little better than Nazis spreading blood libel.
Additionally this strategy is incredibly dumb in his particular instance. When you misinform you are gambling that people viewing the claim won't attempt to look at the evidence. In this case the evidence is a single clip that is an obvious example of a hack. Many people are likely to investigate it. Many people on the fence will think you are liars, all Nick's supporters will reinforce their belief that the other side are liars, and many of your supporters will think you are liars.
Agree with the other reply, but I will say one of his least terrible things but you may have heard about is he was a major source of Kanye's "I love Hitler" tour. He was with him on almost every appearance, if not every one of them.
I'm not a big fan of this line of thinking, because it very quickly leads into "Every homophobe is a closeted homosexual", which is some genuinely insane levels of victim blaming when you actually think about it. Are we seriously going to suggest that queer people are to blame for our own oppression? And for that matter, if homophobia is only enacted by closeted queer people, then what made them closeted in the first place? In a world where no straight person is every homophobic, no queer person would ever have felt any shame about who they are.
Are we seriously going to suggest that queer people are to blame for our own oppression?
No...?
I've never seen anyone make this claim.
It makes some sense that the people who violently bottle up all of their impulses, who are then the most unhappy about it, just to fit in with their right wing community are then the ones who A) think about it the most often, and B) imagine that the "devil's temptation" and the repression thereof is normal for most people, when it really isn't.
—But this isn't the same as saying that only gay people are homophobic. It's just a kind of pathology that leads to being the most militant about it. You end up working the hardest to fit in because you're the most at risk of losing that.
But even more than that, I'm not sure I believe straightness is really "real." If everyone is "a little bit queer", and conservatives are the only ones rejecting that, then this is just an indication that their ideas don't really pan out. They would claim straightness is normal, default, but they can't hold themselves to it; it's not actually possible.
So, those are two different answers to the one problem you've put forward, but in either case, or neither, I don't really see this as the gays attacking themselves. The right wing is just kinda wack, you know?
If you've never seen anyone make the claim that every homophobe is a closeted homosexual, then congratulations, welcome to the Internet, this must be a really exciting first day for you.
And if you read it a little more carefully, you'll notice that I was not accusing the previous commenter of making that claim. I said that their argument felt dangerously close to making that claim. It's important to interrogate the implications of our arguments, even (in fact, especially) when they're made in jest or for the purposes of mockery. It's all too easy to get ourselves into mindsets that seem reasonable, but actually have really dangerous implications.
If you've never seen anyone make the claim that every homophobe is a closeted homosexual
No. This one:
queer people are to blame for our own oppression
This is a dangerous implication, but I don't see it being made. In this thread. And elsewhere. I don't see people, even conservatives, making this accusation.
Because no one makes that accusation directly. I'm really trying not to be a dick here, but you do know what "implication" means, right?
If every homophobe is a closeted queer person then that automatically implies that homophobia is only perpetuated by queer people. That's not what people think they're saying when they make that claim, but it is the only logical conclusion.
And just because you didn't think about the implications of something, doesn't change the fact that they're there.
Your interpretation implies that the queer element of the oppressive queer conservative is the more substantive one.
I think most people correctly recognize it is the conservative element that is the more oppressive one.
I think even conservatives recognize this because the only time they don't want credit for the nasty things they do is when they'd get in trouble. They like the oppression. They want the credit.
So, you are hearing people blame queer people. And I am hearing them blame conservatives.
A queer person is fine. Naturally. A queer conservative, well... what happened, right?
The fear you have then, I suppose, is that someone might hear the word "queer" or "lgbt" and think "Ah. You must be a conservative. Too bad you banned gay marriage for yourselves, hm?", which is something I'm really trying to impress on you here: does not grok with me.
I don't see this implication you're worried about being reinforced---that means reflected in the other things people do and say---because this idea of the self-inflicted wound is not useful to anyone's political ends.
Granted, maybe someday in the future, conservatives will try to use ideas like this to absolve themselves, the same way holocaust denial works.
But today, I only see people pointing out a strong hypocrisy among the conservative community. One that is conservative-self imposed: by living so inauthentically, they are placing themselves into a pressure cooker.
And further, because the ideal conservative lifestyle is so strict, as authoritarians are won't to do, everyone is placed in this pressure cooker.
Heterosexuality, a different sexual pathology, is expressed very conservatively in the incel community.
Like, on some level, you are arguing against the adage "everything is about sex, and sex is about power," which, as far as I know, is pretty well regarded. It's not a secret that the right wing is insanely insecure.
I am sorry to have gotten a bit condescending here, but then I should be asking why you are giving me lessons on subtext.
I've looked at your comment history, you seem like a smart person. I don't really understand where this is coming from.
If all black birds are ravens, then if a bird is black, by definition it is a raven.
If all homophobes are queer, then by definition all homophobia is enacted by people who are queer.
Therefore, the statement "every homophobe is a closeted queer person" automatically excludes all straight people from being capable of homophobia. The moment a straight person does something homophobic, they must, according to this line of thinking, actually be a closeted queer person.
And while the intent is to point out conservative hypocrisy, the effect, very subtly, is to craft a universe where straight people are absolved of any culpability for the existence of homophobia. It becomes, by definition, a queer problem.
I am not arguing against any of the things you seem to think I'm arguing against, nor am I making any of the points you seem to think I'm making. Everything in your previous comment is a response to an invention that exists solely in your head. I am making the point that I have just stated, as plainly as it is possible to state it. If you're still not getting it, sit back, have a cup of coffee, and read it again.
it very quickly leads into “Every homophobe is a closeted homosexual”, which is some genuinely insane levels of victim blaming when you actually think about it.
I was being intentionally hyperbolic for comedic effect rather than trying to be totally nuanced.
There's plenty of examples of people who are outwardly liberal being homophobic- it happens all the time towards people who are seen as 'not on their team' ie how often Democrats (online, comedians, etc) will mock someone like lindsey graham because he's a bit queeny.
You also see it when liberals do stuff like portray Putin and Trump kissing because men kissing bad, right?
To be clear, this wasn't a "call out" or whatever the fuck the kids call it now. I just think it's really important to always interrogate the implications of our arguments. Things we say in jest can still reinforce dangerous or damaging ideas.
Historically the church and then law made them closeted in the first place!
It wasn't always abnormal for (wealthy) men to have male concubines or lovers- until the Abrahamic religions that is
The cool thing about (religious) propaganda is it doesn't have to be true, it's only biased on faith. Faith that these white men know the divine and will stop you from having a fearful afterlife. They don't need proof, just faith. Few people get butthurt no one wants to hurt their butts and they ban it for everyone
I think usually when I see that idea, is more along the lines of "doth protest too much, methinks." A lot of the most vocal homophobes are at least slightly bi or at least seem to like either , partly just because of how common being at least slightly bi is and they go out of their way to deny it. That can be true and still much more casual homophobia by straight people can still be the most common source of homophobia and what pushes people to extremes in their denial. But I also wonder if the argument is sometimes made in hopes of making people afraid of being too homophobic in fear of being seen as gay.
I didn't believe you, OP. I thought there's no way, it's exactly the kind of thing that would be made up. Like we all talk about accidentally streaming porn but it never actually happens.
But holy fuck, there's images. There's a screen recording. You can see one of the guys had a pup hood. I am completely shocked.
And yeah, even before he realized what was happening the chat had already come up with an excuse and he went with it. We live in a clown world.
Evidently you aren't aware that this is how all the anti-gay republican go down (no pun intended), time and again. reality is a parody of itself.
All men have prostates, prostates give the better orgasm, all self-serving egomaniacs always seek greater pleasure and will never apply principles they apply to others, to themselves, because that's the purpose of power, privilege, which more or less means the ability to flout laws. Everyone figures out they have a prostate eventually (due to medical necessity if nothing else) and then, if you've spent your life being an idiot about it, the bill comes due. It happens all the time, the world over. It's so fucking boring it's literally criminal.
There is a difference between hitting the p spot and becoming gay. You can put a finger or dildo up there, or get a girl to peg you without watching gay porn.
He can't possibly be expected to masturbate to completion with some pathetic tradwife on the screen. He's no beta-male cuck! Only 2 or more alpha males railing each other can produce the kind of testosterone-fueled intensity to make him climax.
No i always expected conservatives to be secretely gay, but accidentally streaming gay porn is so funny and so demonstrative that it sounds made up. Like it's unquestionable proof of a common stereotype and the person also looks clumsy in the process, it's like too good.
Kind of weird to imply that selfish pleasure seeking leads to being gay... Seems more likely that when they learned the harmful social tradition that being gay is bad, they fixated on it because it was something they were "struggling" with so it became what their brains go to in morality talks and sticks out more among the other "sins". It's like all those horny teenagers that form abstinence clubs.
I worked with a guy for a bit on a Helpdesk. He was our overnight guy and would generally work alone. The dude had a massive collection of movies and tv shows on his home server that he would remotely connect to and watch while in the office.
Well one day he leaves work after his shift. About an hour or so later the office is echoing with the screams and slaps of sex.
He left and forgot the logout and left the volumed turned to 11
we all talk about accidentally streaming porn but it never actually happens.
It happens. But unless it's someone big, most streamers aren't being recorded or have haters who want to get them banned and are able to scrub all evidence of it.
Posting about this in a place as left-leaning as Lemmy really won't positively impact Fuentes in any way. We just get to have a good laugh at the fact that he and other Nazis are complete buffoons.
As a Jew so Jewy that I moderate c/Jewish, I can tell you for a fact that I personally use the mind control setting on my space laser to make Nick Fuentes think about sucking cock all day.
Not sure to be honest, I'm all for supporting it and am fine with watching any kind of consensual porn, but the Reciepts link didn't show me anything that proved anything.
Never used that software though, it doesn't show the navigation portion of going to a search engine or a bookmark/favorites or what not, I assume it must be screen sharing an individual monitor maybe, by why would the browser have opened on the other monitor there. Hard to say
Nah. It’s just trolls. This video looks like a straight up hack. And there’s no footage of him baiting I can find so it’s legit just a lie as far as I can tell. I don’t wanna defend this piece of shit but. Here I am. We need to figure out the truth before we go into outrage and HAHA mode…. Just childish and this is worse than Reddit. It CLEARLY looks like a hack and I’ve never seen a twitch stream cut completely offline and come back on without intervention. That’s just not how OBS works. It was not screen capturing anymore or didn’t appear to be.
Tankies are far-right trolls claiming to be far-left. They support authoritarianism and violence against the vulnerable, which definitionally makes them right-wing, not left-wing.
Wouldn’t want the truth to get in the way of your worldview huh? It’s crazy how I can say this guy is a piece of shit but was hacked and it still triggers some people.
Also there's a watermark advertising an anti-groper telegram group on the footage.
Honestly, anyone who thinks it wasn't hacked is just an idiot or doing it for political reasons. The latter are also idiots because this doesn't even hurt his fanbase, they are fully aware it's a hack, and are now blaming the Jews for it. It's a complete win for them because they now convince themselves they are victims of Jewish aggression.
The more I think about how unconvincing it is the worse I feel about the situation and the hacker. They could have done a lot more with a hacked stream key than this.
Honest question. I'm vaguely familiar with streaming software and fairly tech literate.
How does something like this accidentally happen?
Also, OP says he forgot to turn off the camera and masturbated but that doesn't seem to be what the video depicts?
I've once forgotten to end the recording of a short clip and ended up with something like hour of black with occasional clicking sounds at the end, it happens
The video source got switched to a, frankly, suspiciously fast placed montage of hardcore gay porn. That's not the same as leaving the stream on a blank video feed with occasional clicks.
What was suspicious about it? Are you saying it wasn't him who decided to watch a hardcore gay compilation? Are you saying it was just randomly served to him by his isp? Man, that's never happened to me, so weird.
It's possible he was capturing his entire screen instead of just some window, then forgot to turn off whatever software he uses. It's definitely possible.
To be honest, it really looks like the stream got hacked. In the video you can see that the stream ends, and then suddenly comes back up with the porn full screen.
Yeah... Its a bit weird. It would be satisfying if it were true but it's fishy for sure.... I guess if you were screen sharing in the wrong browser? But stream ended usually means stream ended... i dunno how you accidentally go live at that point... Is there anyone else referncing this? Good one, but just looks like an edit.
The only way this could happen is if he has hotkeys setup to switch between video sources, and I guess to restart the stream. I don't think OBS (the most used streaming software) set these hotkeys up by default so we can't really guess what they might be. It is also likely that Nick uses some kind of 3rd party stream control hardware to manage these shortcuts, but if that is the case it would make it even less likely that this happened by accident because when using a device like that you usually set up long shortcuts like ctrl-shift-alt-F9, etc.
SO if Nick has set these shortcuts to be the same as the at least two of the following:
alt-tab to his browser/media player,
ctrl-tab to cycle through browser tabs,
Space to resume playback,
Ctrl-shift-p to open a private browser, or
Left click / right click for a bunch of stuff
then it's possible that Nick managed to restart the stream, begin playback, and after several seconds switch the video source.
It's pretty damn unlikely. The sound, maybe, that could continue without additional input from the user as it captures all desktop audio by default. But starting the stream again and switching video source? Nah I doubt it.
It does look like it was hacked, but I don't have any experience with how a duplicate stream source plays out in a situation like this. Just that I can't easily imagine how misclicks or a bad setup would result in this particular series of events in something like OBS.
The twitter and kiwifarms threads are predictably useless (also this one, c'mon guys, use your brains, we're supposed to be better than reddit). According to the groypers Nick was outed as gay some time ago, but he prefers femboys over this kind of stuff. I'm not a Fuentes lore expert but I feel like I've heard this before so maybe it's true.
Kinda funny to see the right eating itself alive in the kiwifarms thread with neonazis screaming crazy antigay bigotry on one side, and groyper neonazis coping hard on the other.
But what I really want to know is how the stream key was stolen. I hope whoever did it comes forward soon. I feel like the groypers aren't going to be fazed by this and will just build themselves up with more conspiracy. It would be better imo to just slam Nick for his trash op-sec.
Not that it is impossible, but could we please stop spreading rumors, and using gay as an insult to ridicule people, I know that it is more about highlighting the hypocrisy of right wing influencers, but this censored version is fishy, like why refresh the page to get the stream to resume, he could be hacked. If he is gay, good for him. but this video is weak proof that he himself streamed it and wasn't hacked.
Edit: all evidence points to a hack. multiple sped up gay porn clips with no consistent theme playing back to back with a consistent watermark of a hacker's telegram channel, without any sign of someone browsing through them, a stream that only started after the official stream had ended, all point to a hack. don't let your disgust of the person blind you to the evidence, have some critical thinking, and thanks for the down votes.
I don't apologize for nazi's, if he really is gay than I should sympathize with the mental state he is living under, being torn between to extreme identities, He must have pushed himself so hard to conform to the heterosexual norm that he ended up on the extreme side of conservatism and toxic heteronomative expectations. What I am saying saying, is he is in desperate need for mental help.
That's an odd thing to say. They might just be adding some nuance to their analysis. If I used "but" as a conjunction in the conclusion of my thesis, does that mean it was only a paragraph long?
Seriously? He was masturbating to gay porn, did they hack his brain too? And why would the so called hacker just put gay porn on? You easily could do so much worse (for him, nothing wrong with gay porn), and also steal and leak any info on the computer.
Do you not realise you're making stuff up in a try to defend a nazi? Get fucked, you're a dumb and shitty person.
I couldn't see him mastrubating to anything in this censored video, even in this cut video https://x.com/vhs_archive/status/1791531138118222205 there wasn't a mention of him being recorded masturbating, all I see is a rainbow flag with big red censored typography on top. I couldn't find the uncut video so unless you have the raw footage, I prefer to ere on the side of caution. maybe be they should have posted the video to xhamster instead to twitter censorship.
Did you see the video? It's clearly a hack, like it doesn't show someone browsing through and finding a porn to watch, it is just instant barrage of different clips. And no video/sound/indication that he was jerking it.
This is mob mentality!! Think for yourself, seek evidence.
Yeah, it seems to escape far too many people that him being a Nazi doesn't suddenly make gay bashing ok.
Ridicule him for being a hypocrite? Sure. Call him a piece of shit or even punch him for being a Nazi? Abso-fucking-lutely!
Berate him for being gay, or perpetuate the idea that all homophobes are really just closeted gays though? Not fucking ok.
Not because of his feelings, but because of all of the gay people, closeted or otherwise, who see people still using gay as an insult or thinking that most/all those who abuse gay people are actually gay themselves (a twisted form of victim blaming), and realise that it isn't just Nazis who are hypocrites, but so called allies, too.
Don't use bigotry* to fight bigots, it shouldn't need saying..
*And no, calling someone a Nazi, or a TERF, or cis, or white, isn't bigotry. Basically don't punch down, which again, shouldn't need saying.
Fun Fact: Ernst Röhm and The Brownshirts were super gay. Apparently during The Night of the Long Knives, Röhm and a huge amount of Brownshirts were scooped up during a massive gay orgy. I bet that was a wild ride until it ended in prison.
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i am not sure how credible this is (cant verify whether this was only streamed to 1 of the 3 platforms) I'm all for bashing on a nazi but if what hes saying is true then we probably shouldn't spread this as gospel
Edit: if false and knowingly supporting a factious narrative then this becomes a slur and not a report on a hypocritical nazi. what is said in the above link looks to be reasonable, as when streaming to multiple platforms it would be highly likely that this would be done from a single instance of obs, so when only 1 of the 3 hosting sites has gay porn streamed to it it is reasonable to believe that a hacker has hijacked the stream apposed to the nazi using 3 streaming applications, disconnecting 2 and continuing to watch gay porn on 1, nonsensical.
I don't support Nick Fanta or any other political streaming mouthpieces, but just as you said this sounds like a plausible explanation and if true then we'd all be better off acknowledging the truth rather than running with sensationalist lies.
That is to say, the people that downvoted your comment are children who can't employ critical thinking to see the uncertainty here-- or perhaps they know something we don't.
Regardless, fuck this Nazi streamer in particular, and all like him. But goddamn people make sure you have your facts straight otherwise you make your opponents look more credible than yourself you tools. Seriously, you make everyone who supports your view look like idiots my being idiots.
was it just the porn, or was there anything that would indicate he was watching it? Because yeah it sounds very much like he might have been hacked based on the description of it only occuring on the one platform-- if it didn't go through OBS, then it obviously was not him forgetting to turn off his stream....
but yeah, again, the dude has always sounded like a twat regardless
Telegram link in top right of the stream, and just porn full screen with multiple clips one after another, mostly fisting but hard to tell with the video being censored and seems to be sped up considerably.
Funny enough though I did see earlier reports of viewers seeing a tab open in the nazis browser linking to trans porn this was last year but ive not looked too much into that yet.
You're admonishing us for not giving the (incredibly cliched) claims of an literal unabashed nazi the benefit of the doubt, but we're the tools...? The man got caught looking at gay porn without disabling all his connections and now he must have been 'hacked' by someone who "most likely isn't Israeli intelligence". Take a look at yourself, man. He's a NAZI. He doesn't need or deserve your bizarrely moralizing support.
I am admonishing you for not acknowledging uncertainty that contributes to the credibility of your argument. It doesn't matter who your opponent is-- if you use a false argument against them, you tarnish the credibility of your side.
It would seem even more nonsensical that if he was streaming to 3 platforms at once using a single application, that a hacker could just hack a single one of those in-progress OBS streams and replace the content while leaving the others alone, without rebooting the stream or affecting the rest of OBS. But I have no clue what happened to be clear, I just don't see how he was streaming to three places using a single OBS and somehow 1/3 of the output changes. Because it's not like if just his Cozy got hacked, that would somehow allow a hacker to step into an-progress pre-recorded stream and take it over, you'd have to close the existing stream coming from whatever "webapp" he is referring to and start a new one, which is not what it sounds like happened. I'm not a OBS, Cozy, or streaming expert by any means, just my opinions based on this super limited info.
the stream had ended on all 3 hosting sites and then on 1 of the hosting sites a stream started up after seconds of the stream ending. it depicted a shock style compilation of gay porn. it was the type of video used to troll and not the sort for getting off to
It's not that I disagree with anything you said, except this. "If what hes saying is true then we probably shouldn't spread this as gospel"
Why not? Fuck em. If John Q public knows who this guy is, it's probably his connections to Kanye and Alex Jones. Maybe MTG. It's up to the audience to scratch beneath the surface. If they do and they let people misrepresenting a nazi watching gay porn effect their opinion on fucking anything then John q public is a piece of shit desperate for both sides trash. If that's the case, fuck em. That's worst case scenario, best case scenario is more make up on all those fucking clowns.
