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zenitsu OP , to politics in Trump voters who are returning to the fold

These people are beyond regarded.

krashmo ,

Is that the new code word for mentally challenged, a typo, or did you stop typing mid sentence?

DBT ,

The first one. r/wallstreetbets started using it a lot a few years ago. That’s where I first saw it anyways.

Limitless_screaming , to World News in Three armed Palestinians trying to break into settlement killed
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This is the first time I see this happening to the settlers, they are usually the perpetrators. The Palestinians of the West bank must step it up. Fatah's bullshit isn't working.

steventhedev ,

I'm a little confused - you mean to say Palestinians in the West Bank should attack more?

Limitless_screaming ,
@Limitless_screaming@kbin.social avatar

سلامة فهمك

Yes. Resistance should start before they are completely erased.

jordanlund Mod ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Removed, rule 6, advocating violence.

"the Palestinians of the West bank must step it up."

ShroOmeric , to World News in Three armed Palestinians trying to break into settlement killed

Those poor poor settlers. :(

baggins , to World News in Japan ANA Boeing 737-800 flight turns back due to cockpit window crack

CEO of Boeing shows off wireless Logitech controller used to pilot new 737 model

flathead ,

Move fast and break stuff

JohnDClay , to World News in Japan ANA Boeing 737-800 flight turns back due to cockpit window crack

This sounds like the phenomenon where any tiny unrelated issue with a plane is scrutinized by the media after an accident, even if these minor issues are common. I have no idea if this issue is serious, but I wouldn't assume it is until we get more info.

nekandro ,

A crack formed on the outermost of 4 layers. It's within spec but should've been caught on inspection. This is a bad look for ANA's inspection team (which might be Boeing? I'm not sure), but not a manufacturing defect afaik.

Spitzspot , to World News in Huge fire rips through Russian online retailer's warehouse in St. Petersburg
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Another smoking accident. /s

freagle , to World News in Japan ANA Boeing 737-800 flight turns back due to cockpit window crack

Jesus

givesomefucks , to World News in Three armed Palestinians trying to break into settlement killed

Israeli forces killed three Palestinians who were armed with knives, a rifle and axes and were trying to break into a settlement in the occupied West Bank overnight between Friday and Saturday, the Israeli military said.

So...

The people from the country that legally control that land...

Broke into a "settlement" by another country that has no legal claim to that land?

This is like trying to frame the French resistance as the bad guys because the nazis totally called dibs on Paris...

LinkOpensChest_wav ,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Israel murdered three teens who attempted to resist their subjugation, and then essentially bragged about it to the world.

Can't make this shit up.

givesomefucks ,

That's how messed up it is over there.

Their extremists honestly think they're the victims and everyone should be on their side. And if anyone doesn't support them stealing land, the only possible reason could be antisemitism

It's what happens when you stop thinking of people from a different racial/ethnic/religious group as human.

Rapidcreek OP ,

What did they need those axes for? Chop down some trees?

LinkOpensChest_wav ,
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My best guess would be they need them to defend themselves against oppression, similar to how someone in Ukraine might need them to defend themselves from Russia.

But you're right that axes are probably not enough to stop Israel.

givesomefucks ,

What do you think the French resistance used to fight off Nazi invaders?

Kind words and warm baguettes?

The "settlers" often have armed IDF escorts when they take the land. And considering the IDF was still there, that might have only been hours earlier.

And that's not getting into how even as bad as this sounds...

The only thing we know is what IDF and the "settlers" say. They could have made up any story and what they're saying still makes them the obvious villains in the story.

They might have just walked up, executed these Palestinians, and then thrown some hand tools around them and cried victim.

That shit happens.

In 2024 why are you taking the word of "settlers" with no legal right to where they're settling?

Or the foreign military who have no reason to be in that foreign country to begin with except to help steal the land?

There's no justification for them to even be there.

Rapidcreek OP ,

The French Resistance wasn't stupid enough to take on an armed encampment. Then again, these were stupid kids. And it goes on. Missles still fly into Israel. Raids like this still happen.

givesomefucks ,

So...

If someone showed up to your house with a foreign government's military. And they said they're taking all your belongings and to fuck off or they'll kill you.

How many times would you start a new life from nothing before fighting back?

Would you eventually just lay down and die instead of starting over? Or do you think eventually the foreign military will kill you first if you don't put your hands up fast enough?

What would you do in their shoes if this was such a terrible plan?

Rapidcreek OP ,

You can try to justify it anyway you want to. Doesn't matter to me.

givesomefucks ,

Justify what?

Fighting to take their land back from illegal foreign invasion?

Why are you ok with the illegal seizure of land that as far as anyone can tell, literally just happened since the IDF was still there?

A bunch of foreign soldiers show up and point guns at you so if you don't die right then it's their forever?

I'm not trying to justify anything. I'm trying (and failing) to understand what you're going on about.

If the original land owners had brought their own military with guns, would that mean they got it back, is that the difference?

So anyone with a gun just automatically gains land rights?

stown , to World News in Three armed Palestinians trying to break into settlement killed
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Not to make light of this story - I thought I was clicking on a story about somebody with three arms. Its too early.

FluffyPotato , to World News in Houthis mistakenly target tanker carrying Russian oil - Ambrey report

They have been attacking random ships so far so "mistakenly" my be the wrong word there.

shalafi , to World News in U.S. carries out new strike in Yemen after Biden vows to keep pressure on

If we drop all political considerations, indiscriminately fucking with international trade routes is sure to get your ass kicked. Right or wrong don't matter. Call it terrorism or piracy or whatever you like, it ain't gonna fly.

eskimofry ,

Except you can't drop all political considerations and you sure as hell can't call this trade route debacle indiscriminate fucking. They specifically attacked this route because they suspect it supplies israel too.

TropicalDingdong , to World News in U.S. carries out new strike in Yemen after Biden vows to keep pressure on

I mean who is gonna stop him?

This started meaningfully under Bush, Obama made it worse.

Hard to put the words out of the mouth but Trump was actually pretty restrained.

What happens what Cheeto gets the hot seat again?

Good intelligence squared on the topic here.

PugJesus ,
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I mean who is gonna stop him?

From retributive action against terrorists performing unprovoked attacks against civilian ships of numerous countries in international waters?

No one, probably?

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

I hate when people say things like this like genocide is apparently not enough provocation.

PugJesus ,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, I'm sure those non-Israeli civilian ships not even heading to Israel are really provoking the Houthis with their genocidal actions.

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

Do you understand the idea of a blockadde?

PugJesus ,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

Yes. Do you understand the idea of a 'neutral nation' or 'international waters'?

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

Yemen explicitly rejected neutrality. That's well within their rights when a genocide is happening at their doorstep.

PugJesus ,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

You do understand that these ships being attacked are ships of neutral nations, right?

You do understand that... right?

And that the attacks aren't happening in Yemeni territorial waters or Israeli territorial waters, but in international waters.

You realize that... right?

... right...?

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

They're ships that are going to dock in Israel.

PugJesus ,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

They're literally not, though. The Houthis have been indiscriminately attacking ships passing through the area, which is largely used for passage through the Suez Canal - the only alternative being making a trip all the way around Africa.

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

They... Are? They're attacking ships that are either Israeli-owned, flying the Israeli flag or are going to dock at Israel. And it's working.

PugJesus ,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

The Houthis are indiscriminately attacking ships that are not Israeli-owned, flying the Israeli flag, or going to dock at Israel. Of the ships attacked, only a small minority have any connection to Israel at all. So you're just choosing to ignore reality. Okay. Good talk.

splicerslicer ,

This is exceptionally easy to disprove with a five second Google search. Some of the container ships that were most recently attacked had panama and Japan flags. Please learn to think and read before spouting nonsense. What the houthi are doing is indiscernible from piracy

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

So I'm looking up that attack but can't find it. Got a link?

GBU_28 ,

You should probably stick to your user name

GBU_28 ,

In international waters? Better have a strong navy

GBU_28 ,

2 wrongs don't make a right. Uninvolved civilians just working a shift don't deserve to die

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

And they didn't.

TropicalDingdong ,

There's a broader point here that everyone seems to be missing, which is that the role of president didn't have the authority to do things like this historically. It's not about it being R or D, or if it's moral and justified 'this time'. It's that we've ceded a power to the executive which should be in the legislative branch.

I would really ask you to listen/ watch the debate I posted.

Syntha ,

Was he?

The Trump administration has carried out 176 strikes in Yemen in just two years, compared with 154 there during all eight years of Obama’s tenure, according to a count by The Associated Press and the Bureau of Investigative Journalism.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbers

fastandcurious ,
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People can cry all they want, but it’s the US who gave the excuse to Houthi, I think they should first stop their genocide before accusing others of terrorism, leave that to more respectful countries

GBU_28 ,

Did trump strike Yemen or not?

pan_troglodytes , to World News in Houthis mistakenly target tanker carrying Russian oil - Ambrey report

woops, our bad!

Rapidcreek OP , to World News in U.S. carries out new strike in Yemen after Biden vows to keep pressure on

Guess they should have stopped firing missles at our ships.

nekandro ,

lemmy.world once again demonstrating why it should be called lemmy.us

GBU_28 ,

And .ml gonna ml.

Don't shoot at civilians. That goes for everyone.

nekandro ,

A blockade of a state you are at war with is... acceptable under international law.

Unfortunately for you, international law supercedes your own interpretation of morality.

pineapple_pizza ,

Was the blockade officially declared? I couldn't find a source

cecinestpasunbot ,
eskimofry ,

Guess America should stop arming israel and condemn them for their genocide.

toiletobserver , to World News in Houthis mistakenly target tanker carrying Russian oil - Ambrey report

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