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NightAuthor , to xkcd in xkcd #2932: Driving PSA

When driving:
Don’t be nice, be predictable.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

This is the way.

tables ,

You can be nice, just make sure you think about what you're actually doing before doing it.

Letting a car go in front in the situation above: you're probably causing an accident.

Letting a car go in heavy traffic when there's one lane each way and everyone's stopped already anyway: won't cost you much time and you've allowed that person to move on with their life instead of being permanently stuck at an intersection he's never going to be able to get out of unless someone yields.

I live close to a few intersections where if no one is nice and yields, it's impossible to join unless you barge your way in and hope people stop. But to be fair, these aren't designed like death traps like the one above.

llii ,

think about what you’re actually doing before doing it.

That's too much thinking for most people.

deweydecibel ,

That goes for the driver that's being waived through, too.

roude ,

Letting a car go in front in the situation above: you're probably causing an accident.

I disagree. In this situation, you are letting the left turning car move to the middle lane of this five lane road. From there, they can make a better decision of when to go. You aren’t causing an accident by letting them go TO THE MIDDLE LANE. From that point on, it is their ability to merge that may cause an accident. But they are supposed to stop in the middle lane and check that they can merge BEFORE they merge.

meowMix2525 ,

There is no middle lane here wtf are you talking about

roude ,

Edit: Woof, sorry my phone mangled my comment into a hot mess. Fixed it and re-commented here.

You are supposed to be in the middle near that rounded portion just above the time-traveling assassin.

These…

Turning Left on a Straightaway: Most main roads have median lanes into which you can move your vehicle if you need to turn left off of a straightaway. Move into the median, and yield the right of way to the oncoming traffic. Once there is an opening, you can complete your turn.

Turning Left onto a Straightaway with a vehicle in the median: Every once in a while, you’ll be trying to turn onto a straight away, and you’ll find someone already in the median—right where you need to be! The rule is that the vehicle in the media has the right of way. The idea is that they are in the most vulnerable position because they are literally stopped in the middle of the road. Let them complete their turn before you move to the median.

… from this.

meowMix2525 ,

That is not what that excerpt is talking about, that is talking about a road with a middle turn lane.

The road pictured here has a median which cannot be driven over, generally there's a kerb and it's usually just grass on top. The center part is not for stopping in, it is only for driving through. You should not proceed unless you have a clear view of traffic from where that car is sitting on the left. In some cases there will be a white line to stop there, and in that case that is okay, but that is not what is pictured here.

roude , (edited )

What are YOU talking about? The median can 100% be driven over (circled in red below), and the center part (again, circled in red) is entirely intended to stop in prior to merging.

The entire middle area is the median, which also contains protected left hand turns, a raised section, and what I assume is a painted median (maybe, maybe not, but again the circled portion). I am talking about stopping here, in the circled portion, prior to merging. You are supposed to stop there, assuming you aren’t towing or driving a longer-than-average vehicle, if you do not have visibility into the lane you are merging into.

The quoted text I have above specifically mentions a left hand turn onto a straightway WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE IN THE MEDIAN, so clearly they mean a median that allows driving through.

Picture.

Edit: The predictable thing to do here, turning left with low visibility into the lane you are merging into due to obscuring traffic, is to yield to traffic coming from your left until you have: no traffic coming from the right, or someone from the right waves you through. You then stop in the middle, circled red portion until it is safe to complete your turn. You don’t just Hail Mary blindly drive from where you were initially stopped into the desired lane. That is how you cause an accident.

meowMix2525 ,

I think you are entirely missing the point of this comic and misunderstanding the rules of the pictured intersection. There's a reason these were outlawed in my state (michigan). They are a dumb way to direct traffic, the "stopping room" you've circled is not meant for stopping in, or else there would be far more space there, likely an entire lane of room. I'm not suggesting making blind turns. You are not supposed to proceed without visibility or merging room, hence why the stopped line of cars in the middle lane have the right-of-way as they are blocking your view of that and possibly the traffic behind them, which the person at the front of the line has almost no way of knowing. You stop in the middle then you are still blocking them for as long as it takes to merge into traffic now that you've got yourself in this situation.

It just does not make sense to do it that way. If you can't make the turn left then you turn right and find somewhere to turn around, which is how our roads are designed from the jump here in michigan.

Anyways, this is a really stupid argument and I'm really not interested in continuing it.

roude ,

Alright, bow out if you must. But keep in mind here you chose to pedantically argue there is no middle lane. You picked this fight, when my original argument to the first commenter I responded to was that allowing someone to go when you are in the middle lane of the straightaway (a.k.a the time-traveling assassin) is not "causing an accident". So agreed it is stupid, but it isn’t like I called you out first for something silly.

papalonian ,

Alright, bow out if you must.

Cringe, and implies you're trying to win an argument rather than have a conversation.

Also, I'm sorry, but you're totally wrong. I know what kind of intersection you're talking about, this definitely is not it. Maybe it's a regional thing, but XKCD is an American webcomic, these intersections are all over the place and you definitely are not supposed to stop in them.

Intersection

This is the kind of intersection you're talking about. You'll notice that the center area where the car turns is much longer than the area in the original post, in addition to having clear lane indications.

If someone were to stop in the intersection in the OP, they would have to be stopped at an awkward angle not parallel to either lane, and if someone were to follow them into the intersection, the second person would have nowhere to go.

Long story short, there's two different kinds of intersections being discussed here, regardless of whether or not you acknowledge it or which one you believe is being depicted. One of them makes the comic make sense, while the other does not. Which one do you think the artist intended to draw?

roude , (edited )

Cringe? Okay, thanks. So this was a discussion until meowMix came in with a "there is no middle lane what the f* are you talking about". Charged language, incorrect statement, and a nitpick nonetheless.

Now you are here arguing for meowMix, but again, you are arguing something counter to most US states. You are generally allowed to turn into an intersection as long as you are not impeding traffic turning left in that same intersection. I am talking about intersections without lights, not controlled intersections. Those are different, and not applicable here.

In this case, there is clearly enough room for a reasonable sized car to be in the intersection assuming they yielded for traffic from the left AND were waved into the intersection by another left turning car on the straightaway (the time traveling assassin), so traffic from the right. Left and right, basically the general rule that applies to all left turning uncontrolled intersection traffic questions. But that waving though only is to the lane of the car waving you through, closest to your side of the street. No time traveling assassin can give you right of way to lanes to their right, a.k.a the lane with the 45 mph car.

That’s the premise of this joke, that people cannot give you right of way to SOMEONE ELSE’S LANE. In case everything above is still unclear, there is a wiki for this exact joke. Because this has been debated countless times before. Because everything from xkcd has. Because this is the internet, where everything is debated to death.

Now I have no idea where this supposed intersection is. Could be Pennsylvania where the artist is from, or Virginia where they went to college. Or even Massachusetts where they currently reside. Or it could be in any number of states that allow this exact behavior I am talking about. Tough to say without knowing directly from the author where this is from.

The example you provided is another intersection type, and different than the joke. The middle section of the joke is what appears to be a double wide (wide as two lanes) section, so there is definitely enough room for a standard sized car. Angle of the intersection plays no part in whether it is a valid turning place, awkward or not. There are countless examples of intersections that aren’t perfectly perpendicular, should ALL of these awkward left turn merges be forbidden because you aren’t in a spot exactly parallel to the lane you are merging into? No.

Who cares about the second person? You shouldn’t be taking them into consideration for this kind of turn. They are supposed to turn when they have enough space. Following you blindly into an intersection is a poor decision on their part, and of course not your responsibility.

Long story not short! You’re talking about a different intersection, not even the one from the joke. You are right there are different kinds of intersections, but any of them with: an intersection, two left turning drivers, a two way straightaway, a middle section with a left turning lane (a.k.a. a middle lane, or a center left lane, or a median with a raised section and left turning lane, …), and enough space for a non-straightaway left turning car to move into the intersection without impeding traffic from either direction of the straightaway would have worked for this joke.

Because the joke wasn’t there isn’t enough space in the intersection. It was that NO DRIVER CAN GIVE YOU RIGHT OF WAY TO SOMEONE ELSE’S LANE.

You’re potentially right that I enjoy a debate, most people on the internet do. That’s why I am here. But I’ll be damned if sit on the sidelines while some cat food user makes an incorrect nitpick, or you yourself argue for driving behavior that is counter to most states’ DMV rules.

deweydecibel ,

I was gonna lose my mind reading some of these comments. Thank you for being sensible.

The majority of cases where one could politely let someone through are not going to be on highways like this.

It's also ridiculous to assume that the driver that you're letting through would just stop checking for oncoming traffic because you waved them through.

tables ,

Driving is one of those things where we're supposed to be human - make choices, act sensibly, think about what we're doing and adapt to others around us. But often people assume it's something entirely deterministic - "if the light is green I'm going to launch forward even if there's still traffic moving past me and I'm going to get hit or hit someone, because green means I HAVE to go".

Being polite to others, asides from the nicety of it, is often more positive to everyone on the road than going "I have the right of way so I won't let anyone in" and allows traffic as a whole to move with less issues. But some people go way too hard on the mentality that every road user other than them is stupid and stop acting like humans because they assume others won't be able to cope. Which usually complicates traffic for everyone.

There's a roundabout in my daily commute in which at the end of the afternoon 80% of drivers are coming from and going to the same direction and there's usually heavy traffic in that specific direction that blocks the roundabout. Often, drivers who are approaching the roundabout to go to a different direction will signal their intention, and users already inside the roundabout will give way - even if they technically have the right of way and don't have to - because those users aren't going their direction and will only increase the number of cars stuck if they're not allowed through. Roundabout users being polite effectively makes traffic as a whole go more smoothly and everyone benefits. Sometimes someone inside the roundabout will be an ass and not let people through - and the result is always that everyone is stuck for more time because there are now cars inside the roundabout which could've already vacated it which are stuck behind someone who could easily let them through.

Mac ,

you dont have two lane roads in your town? i sure do and this is a real issue. the driver pulling into traffic cannot see the car coming along at higher speed.

Mac ,

you dont have two lane roads in your town? i sure do and this is a real issue. the driver pulling into traffic cannot see the car coming along at higher speed.

TrickDacy ,

Not mutually exclusive

Empricorn , (edited )

Yeah, this had fucking better be the top comment!

Zozano , to xkcd in xkcd #2905: Supergroup

For the uninitiated:

  • 21 Pilots
  • 5 Seconds of Summer
  • 4 Non Blondes
  • 2 Live Crew
  • 100 Gecs
  • 3 Doors Down
  • 9 Inch Nails
  • 1 Republic
  • 1 Direction
  • 30 Seconds To Mars
echodot ,

I've never heard of half of those bands.

lauha ,

I've never heard 4/5 of those bands

Viking_Hippie ,

Congratulations?

I'm a very uncool 40-something from a different continent than most of them and I've heard of all but 2..

echodot ,

I'm not sure why congratulations are in order. I'm not bragging that I don't know them I just don't know them.

Zozano ,

I would hope twenty one pilots are in the known pile, I've been a massive fan since Vessel.

echodot ,

5 seconds of summer, nine inch nails, one direction, and 30 seconds to Mars.

That are loads that fit this category but I just don't know all of them. For example I've heard of 99 red balloons but I didn't know that was the name of the band, I thought it was the name of the song.

dangblingus ,

other way around homie. nena is the artist. it's a song about nuclear bombs.

dangblingus ,

That's what makes you beautiful.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

So the joke is they added up a list of bands with numbers in their names to get 176? I dunno if it's just me but that seems profoundly, purposely unfunny. But I'm also not smart enough to get most of xkcds jokes so it really is probably just me

SirQuackTheDuck ,

Most xkcd's are perfectly fitting for this magazine:

Sensible Chuckle magazine

funkless_eck ,

I am entirely fine and on board with sensible chuckle. I would go as so far as to say that sensible chuckle has now taken the place of edgy snicker in my life.

dangblingus ,

I like the hi res ones he makes where it's like 10 pages long logarithmic maps of the universe. Cool fuckin beans.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

I actually like those type best as well

DaBabyAteMaDingo ,

I'm with you big dog. That shit whack.

agamemnonymous ,
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Tbf, notice the "". Dude's been cranking these out consistently, 3 times a week, for 18+ years.They can't all be great.

WeirdAlex03 ,
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PaupersSerenade ,
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I totally forgot 1000 miles, my brain was stuck on 500 miles (and it’s now stuck in my head)

davidgro ,

It'll be stuck 500 more.

WeirdAlex03 ,
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Yeah my first thought on that was I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles), but I decided to look up "1000 Miles" just to be safe and said "oh yeah"

nilloc ,

Coulda been Blink 358 Pilots…..

Or Sum, Blink 399 ….

Dagwood222 ,

It just doesn't add up!

Viking_Hippie ,

The other bands rejected the suggestion "Mostly Gecs"

billwashere , to xkcd in xkcd #2898: Orbital Argument

And that point is inside the sun.

dirtbiker509 , (edited )

No the comic is pointing out that the sun and the earth are both orbiting the milky way galactic center.

Edit: While also true, I was wrong, they orbit the center of mass of the two body problem (earth and sun). I still think that's too simple of a way to look at it. It's not a two body problem and the other planets and the whole galaxy are also in play.

nonfuinoncuro ,

I mean technically every body in the entire universe exerts gravity on everything else as long as it's in your light cone

hypertext5689 ,

What's a light cone?

TheGreenGolem ,
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A not too heavy cone.

nonfuinoncuro ,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_cone

this doesn't give a very good explanation but I'm sure there's some good YouTube video that breaks it down. essentially maps out everywhere in space and time that could possibly interact with you in any way. this maximum is represented by how fast light can move away from you.

for example if you stole my car and ran away from me, I can draw a circle on the map every hour for how far you could have gone (assuming I knew my car's maximum speed). if I put those circles on top of each other it'll make a cone.

blanketswithsmallpox ,

True in reality it's just the sun and Jupiter orbiting each other in a common point...

Inside the sun lol.

V0lD ,

No actually. Due to Jupiter, the centre of mass of the solar system is actually very slightly outside of the sun

billwashere ,

Cool. I learned something today

afraid_of_zombies ,

Leave it to Jupiter to mess yet another thing up

frezik ,

Stupid lazy ass diabetus planet doesn't even have enough mass to fuse its hydrogen.

RememberTheApollo_ ,

Wouldn’t the center of mass constantly be shifting by the planets’ varying positions in orbit?

uriel238 ,
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relative to the center of the Milky Way, yes.

Sadly, the quantum foam has no gridlines.

starman2112 , (edited )

Yes, but it's mostly shifting because of Jupiter. It's just so dang heavy. Like, a couple times heavier than every other planet put together. I don't have the brain wattage to do the cool math right now, but a quick google search says that while the barycenter of the solar system does depend on all the planets, more often than not, it is outside the sun

gandalf_der_12te ,

Easy reminder:

sun ~ 10^30 kg
jupiter ~ 10^27 kg
earth ~ 10^24 kg

so the ratio is always 1000:1

niktemadur ,

But I think the math of the argument is only about the common center between Earth and the sun, taking away all other planets out of the equation, especially Jupiter.

Flumpkin ,

So doesn't that mean the earth and sun do not orbit a common center but a varying point based on mostly Jupiter?

Centrists have bamboozled me again!

WoahWoah ,

Wait I'm sorry, are we saying that the earth's orbit isn't almost entirely dictated by the gravitational pull of the massive star at the center of our solar system? I am a simple man, I apologize if that is a stupid question.

ramble81 ,

When dealing with gravitational systems the gravity of each object has to be taken into account. So even though the sun is 99.999% (hyperbole) of the gravity in the equation, the earth’s gravity contributes that small 0.001% and thus the “center” of where they orbit isn’t truly the center of the sun. Tack on Jupiter, which is much more than a fraction of a percent and that “center” moves even farther away from the middle of the sun.

To look at it further, if you had two objects of perfectly equal mass and no other gravitational interference, they would orbit around a point in the middle of each other since their pull is equal. So it’s basically a sliding scale of sorts.

Hope that explains it!

WoahWoah ,

That did help, thanks for taking the time. I think I was thinking about mass and gravity not orbits. Again, I'm an idiot, so that's probably why I missed the central point of the cartoon. 😁

Jimbo , to xkcd in xkcd #2922: Pub Trivia
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threelonmusketeers ,

Leap day babies?

schnurrito ,

That is why the explanation continues: "(other than pedantic exceptions due to calendar issues or timezone alterations, or someone dying before their birthday, or being born on a leap day, none of which apply in this case)".

authorinthedark ,

are we sure that none apply in this case? which BTS members still have upcoming birthdays that they could die before

schnurrito ,

I just checked the Wikipedia articles and it seems that two of them have already had their birthday this year, five not.

Holyhandgrenade ,
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A friend of mine has his birthday on feb 29th. He was turning 49 and me and my gf showed up to his party with balloons with the number 12 on them (since that's how many actual birthdays he'd had).

kinsnik , to xkcd in xkcd #2913: Periodic Table Regions

I guess random, but i really like this alternative to the periodic table:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d879e345-338d-41d0-95d0-73e3e92afde5.png

Because you can see how, after H and He, you do 2 loops of 8 and add the transition metals to the next 2 loops; then you add the lanthanides and actinides to the next 2 loops. And can easily see how the superactinides guy in the extended period table

p1mrx ,

So that's what a plumbus is for.

nova_ad_vitum ,

At first I was like WTF but honestly I kind of like it.

gmtom ,
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I feel like theres got to be a way to do the same concept but have it be a bit less hideous.

Donkter ,

You could make it look like a dick and balls if you did it right.

Wanderer ,
GratefullyGodless ,
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Future design for the USS Enterprise Z.

mySFWaccount ,

It's hideous. I love it.

Rentlar ,

Periodic Cribbage Board... I kinda dig it.

Hamartiogonic ,
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What about the table of nuclides? IMO that’s the best way to list elements in a logically consistent manner. The trouble is, nature is a messy kraken that just won’t fit neatly into a shoe box. You can try to squeeze it in, but the lid won’t close because there are always a few tentacles sticking out.

KISSmyOSFeddit , to xkcd in xkcd #2942: Fluid Speech

I once met a girl in a bar who spoke such absolutely perfect and grammatically correct German she did sound like an alien impersonating a human.
Or someone who very much wants to show that she's better than you.

Turns out she wasn't from Germany at all. She was an immigrant from Slovakia, who had learnt German at such a high level that it sounded weird.

laughterlaughter ,

I've had Americans ask me the meaning of words I've used in a sentence. Like "what's tranquil?" (I'm non-native.)

I blame reading.

stormdelay ,

Speaking English using French vocabulary is a real cheat code

laughterlaughter ,

I was thinking more of Spanish, but yup. Same thing.

marcos ,

Yeah, coming from Portuguese, I know by hearth all of the refined vocabulary to be found in English.

But the mundane is a whole other world.

laughterlaughter ,

Like "bamboozled"!

LemmyKnowsBest ,

English speakers can really enhance their vocabulary when they know French. English does have a lot of French words that most people don't use anymore but if you use them, your vocabulary becomes off-the-charts intellectual.

ZDL ,
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Pseudo-intellectual. A clear communicator uses the simplest, precise word that has the precise meaning they intend, reaching most commonly for the Germanic vocabulary unless they need the subtler shades of meaning from the Latinate. A pseudo-intellectual uses Latinate vocabulary to conceal what they're actually saying or to intimidate people who aren't as comfortable on the Latinate side of the fence. It's a form of intellectual bullying that, to my mind, makes the person using it look insecure (not to mention likely dishonest).

A good communicator's motto should be "eschew gratuitous obfuscation (see what I mean?)".

lars ,

Anglo-language conversations plus Franco-vocabulary utilization, remains a veritable trick code

De rien

Aceticon ,

I once did an English language vocabulary test that yielded that I'm amongst the top 0.01% in terms of amount of English-language vocabulary.

English is not my mother tongue and I still and often make mistakes in the use of "in"-vs-"on" or even in certain forms of past tense.

However I read a lot in English, in various areas of knowledge, plus it turns out lots of really obscure words in English are pretty much the same as a the word in some other language I know or even pretty much the Latin word, so when I didn't know that was the English word for that, I can often guess the meaning.

All this to say that I absolutelly agree with you that it's a reading thing, plus at more specialized language level, the "knowledge of foreign languages" also has some impact.

SkyezOpen ,

Got called a rich kid for knowing the word "carafe." Pretty sure I learned it from a book, my parents didn't have carafe with mountain spring water or some shit around the house.

LemmyKnowsBest ,

I learned that word from my dad when I was a child. we kept a carafe in the refrigerator designated for water. It's a wine carafe but can put anything in it. My dad was an alcoholic so he had a wine carafe and a lot of other alcohol-related accoutrements like beer steins.

captainlezbian ,

I learned it trying to fix a coffee maker. It’s news to me that it ain’t a coffee specific word.

Kazumara ,

The term "carafe" puts me in mind of a crystal glass container of between half a litre and two litres of volume for wine or water. What is it in relation to coffee? The glass bowl the coffee drips into in one of those dripping coffee makers?

captainlezbian ,

Exactly that. I picture it as one of those big jugs on an industrial coffee machine with the black or orange plastic to indicate if it has caffeine

ZDL ,
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I was scolded by a boss for using words that to me were perfectly ordinary everyday words. Words like "cognate" or "cognizant", say, but to him they sounded like I was showing off and making people feel bad.

Oops.

ZDL ,
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That's a different issue from sandhi. Vocabulary and dialect are another area of active study (often paired with yet another realm: sociolinguistics: the language you speak changes according to your social environment) that is a real rabbit hole.

RandomException ,

I've been learning German too myself, and the thing that the traditional language courses don't teach you is the way natives speak. Listening to actual German speakers was pretty much alien to me even after two years until I bumped into a couple Easy German videos where they touch the very same subject as this xkcd and that actually got me listening to certain parts of speech more carefully and that way also understand it better.

Now I actually find myself doing the same shortcuts sometimes when I'm progressing with the skill. It's the same with English since I have to use it daily at work even though I'm not a native speaker. Funny how the languages work in real life vs. in theory.

otacon239 , to xkcd in xkcd #2899: Goodhart's Law

I’d not heard of this before, but this explains a lot of why my call center jobs were such BS.

We were expected to resolve networking, MS Exchange and VoIP issues in 20 minutes or less on average, which just resulted in a lot more customers having to call back because all the agents had to try and rush to a solution without time to test.

LazaroFilm ,
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Yep. That, and cops arrest and ticket quotas…

uriel238 ,
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We don't test for false convictions, which are as good as true ones for furthering careers in prosecution and law enforcement.

We don't know if our prison population is 10% innocent or 75% despite Blackstone's ratio.

In fact, when someone isn't successfully convicted, it's assumed the suspect got off on a technicality rather than continuing the investigation to find other suspects.

palebluethought ,

It's wildly under-taught. It explains like half of all problems in the world. Education: "teaching to the test." Economics: optimizing GDP at the expense of non-material well-being. Maximizing shareholder value by selling out employees and enshittifying your product. Software: "data-driven decision making" optimizing short -term gains over long-term because they are more measurable. That's just off the top of my head.

delaunayisation ,

But how else can the corporate bureaucracy hold its grip on people otherwise? The metrics are as necessary as catehism for catholicism.

palebluethought , (edited )

The corporate bureaucracy is as much a product of the overall system, and just as much a slave to its incentives, as you or I. Though granted, the level of self-awareness of their role in the system is on average pretty low. With few exceptions, there is nobody at the wheel of problems like these. Worrying about whose fault it is is usually a waste of time.

DABDA ,
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There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it over.

chemical_cutthroat , to xkcd in xkcd #2893: Sphere Tastiness
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By the logic of this graph the Earth is slightly more tasty than the moon, yet the moon is made of cheese. Explain that, XKCD.

match ,
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the earth contains sparse pockets of cheese, such as France. An entire celestial object of cheese would be overwhelming

assassinatedbyCIA ,

It has heterogeneity which is good according to prof ragusea

Xtallll ,
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The earth contains bacon.

toxicbubble ,

earth has over 10,000+ species of edible plants, and 300,000+ that we can't eat

frickineh ,

Can't eat, or can eat one time?

notenoughbutter ,

still, won't be tasty

randomaccount43543 OP , to xkcd in xkcd #2907: Schwa
captainastronaut ,
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Thank you!

Nighed ,
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the link to the wikipedia page with the audio clip really helped, made no sense without that.

brbposting ,

I had no idea what the name of the sound was so I credit being a native speaker and reading the comic out loud with my understanding.

Do read it out loud - the more you exaggerate it the more fun it is.

Cannot believe how smart this guy is. If 10% of the planet were like Randall we would’ve cured cancer like the second time somebody got diagnosed with it.

ArtificialLink ,

Where is the audio clip?

Nighed ,
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sanguinepar ,
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Never have I needed the explanation more than with this one.

ikidd ,
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I still have no clue.

Prandom_returns ,

Almost all of that conversation is using the "uh" as a 'replacement' for all the vowels.

Whuht's Uhp, Duhg.

That "uh" sound is called "schwa"

Retrograde ,
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But why is it called schwa??

Prandom_returns ,

Phonetic names. If you were to call it "uh" it would be too ambiguous. Probably.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid_central_vowel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet

ArtificialLink ,

This is straight up. Better explanation than the whole wicky article. Because the usage of schwa for "uh" had me confused as fuck.

thegreatgarbo ,

schwa for “uh”

That's all I needed to turn an incomprehensible explanation to "oh! Got it!"

prex , to xkcd in xkcd #2898: Orbital Argument
TimewornTraveler ,

I appreciate the origin story being included in this cliché, cuz it got repeated so often on Reddit that people seemed to forget it was said by a parody of an obnoxious heartless bureaucrat and repeat the phrase without irony.

Huschke ,

You know, you are technically correct.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Which is a kind of correct.

What kind we’ll never know.

Wild_Mastic , to xkcd in xkcd #2929: Good and Bad Ideas

So, about Project Orion from Wikipedia

In August 1955, Ulam co-authored a classified paper proposing the use of nuclear fission bombs, "ejected and detonated at a considerable distance," for propelling a vehicle in outer space.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)

Excuse me what the fuck

ours ,

Read "Footfall" for a hard scifi story featuring such a ship.

Wild_Mastic ,

Will do! Thanks

Crackhappy ,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

I like Footfall, but it's also a little over the top for me.

ours ,

Co-written by the guy who tried to sell the US military the concept of "rods from god" (orbital kinetic weapon). I wouldn't expect anything less.

Shurimal ,

Not worse than a fusion torch. Or open-cycle nuclear propulsion. Or an antimatter drive.

You know, the Kzinti lesson😉

Wild_Mastic ,

Never heard of those, but if they are on par with project Orion I have some nice readings to do today.

MightBeAlpharius ,

If you're into hard sci-fi and you're looking for a good read, they actually dropped a pretty good recommendation with that reference at the end - Larry Niven does a great job of blending real-world theories like Dyson spheres and advanced propulsion drives, with some of the more far-flung standards of the genre like an intra-planetary teleportation grid.

Cethin ,

All chemical propulsion is just controlled explosions that we use to push a thing forward. It's not that different, as long as you don't use it in the atmosphere or near humans.

Wild_Mastic ,

Yeah I know, it's the same principle behind modern fuel engines. Still, using nukes for propelling something forward is a bit of a stretch.

notabot ,

Not just nukes, but nuclear shaped charges, at a rate of maybe one per second for a manned vehicle or even more for a faster cargo only mission.

Promethiel ,
@Promethiel@lemmy.world avatar

If you can trust the human monkeys with the "shaping" of a rock that got us here, how you gonna distrust the widdle trivial matter of taking little bits of something and splitting them.

It's shaped charges, it's totally fine and sane. I'd happily get on the 1,000th Orion flight*.

*Only if that's a fresh hull

SonnyVabitch ,

It's not uncommon in scifi. Netflix's Three Body Problem also explores such a solution in quite some depth.

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

I love The Three Body Problem, both the books and the show. But it bothered me to no end to read Netflix's Three Body Problem.

SonnyVabitch ,

I'm not familiar with the books, and the plot summary of their Wikipedia article does not mention nuclear propulsion whereas the article for the series does, so I went with that.

Unless what bothers you is the x followed by the apostrophe and the s, which I never know when to omit the s, so it is what it is.

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

Ah gotcha. Yeah you should check out the books if you're liking the show! The books go into a ton more detail and the Staircase Project is pretty cool. Seeing it on the screen is cool too, but if you really wanna nerd out I highly recommend the books.

jol ,

Ah the 50s, when everything atomic was rad.

GratefullyGodless ,
@GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world avatar

::Fallout theme starts playing::

TomAwsm ,

"I don't want to set the world on fire...."

frezik ,

It would probably work just fine, but it needs a huge ship. It could get up to a few percent of the speed of light.

FWIW, nuclear test ban treaties are considered to outlaw it. I think we're more likely to solve the technical difficulties of antimatter propulsion than we are to get over the political difficulties of nuclear bomb propulsion.

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It could get up to a few percent of the speed of light.

So could a person sticking their head out and blowing, but it's still a terrible idea.

frezik , (edited )

Just as an observation, there was a time when everyone on the Internet was gaga over the idea of Project Orion, and you didn't dare speak out against it lest you get a hail of downvotes.

It'd work fine in deep space. It's not a good idea to launch from Earth this way. But again, we'll probably find something better once we're at the stage of needing it.

szczuroarturo ,

But then how would you launch nukes on orbit without the risk of accudental nuclear explosion?

frezik ,

Implosion-type nukes are all but impossible to make go off that way. They need a whole bunch of small explosives to go off very precisely to squeeze the core in just the right way. A short circuit or a crash won't have the necessary precision. This isn't entirely safe, either--it can still cause a small explosion with a flash of fallout and radiation--but it's a manageable problem.

Gun-types (Little Boy was one) are easier to go off on accident, but the US retired its last gun-type design decades ago. I don't think Russia used them much, either. They're only good for smaller bombs, and their safety issues make them questionable for any use. Smaller nuclear powers aren't bothering with them.

MonkderDritte ,

Aren't there plans again?

Considering that you need huge shields and dampening and you only have the mass of the bomb itself as propelant, is it still as effective as controlled propulsion?

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Don't forget the mass of whatever ablates from your shield!

GBU_28 ,

They spoke to that and found it manageable. The ablation isn't there deal breaker

Badabinski , (edited )

I think you may be mixing up Project Orion (let's chuck bombs out of the back to make us go zoom) with NERVA (a nuclear thermal rocket engine where the heat from chemical reactions is replaced with heat from a nuclear reactor to generate gas expansion out of a nozzle). Something like NERVA is actually a great idea. Let me tell you why!

  • It's completely clean (unlike Orion and fission-fragment rockets)
    • the reactor and fuel never touch, the fuel goes through a heat exchanger and is not radioactive
  • it provides extremely high efficiency
    • chemical rockets top out at ~400-500 isp in vacuum
    • NERVA tests in 1978 gave a vacuum isp of 841
    • ion thrusters like NEXT has an isp of 4170
  • it provides lots of thrust
    • NERVA had 246kN of thrust
    • NEXT (which was used on the DART mission) is 237 millinewtons
    • That's 6 orders of magnitude more thrust!
  • No oxidizer is needed
    • All you need is reaction mass, just like ion thrusters

For automated probes, the extreme efficiency and low thrust of ion thrusters makes perfect sense. If we ever want to send squishy humans further afield, we need something with more thrust so we can have shorter transit times (radiation is a bastard). Musk is supposedly going to Mars with Starship, and the Raptor engine is a marvel of engineering. I don't like the man and I'm not confident that he'll actually follow through with his plan, but the engineers at SpaceX are doing some crazy shit that might make it happen.

Just think though, if the engine was literally twice as efficient and they didn't need to lug around a tank of oxidizer, how much time could they shave off their transit? How much more could they send to Mars? Plus, they could potentially reduce the number of big-ass rockets they have to launch from Earth to refuel. If you can ISRU methane, then I imagine you could probably get hydrogen.

There are problems that still need to be resolved (the first that comes to mind is how to deal with cryogenic hydrogen boiling off), but like, the US had a nuclear thermal engine in the 70s. It was approved for use in space, but congress cut funding after the space race concluded so it never flew.

I'm happy to see that NASA is once again researching nuclear thermal rockets. Maybe we'll get somewhere this time.

MonkderDritte ,

I'm more with VASIMIR though, maybe with a nuclear reactor for power, since it's variable.

DerisionConsulting , to xkcd in xkcd #2937: Room Code

020518

February 5th, 2018.

No Randal, that's not an acceptable way to express a date.

ObstreperousCanadian ,
@ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca avatar

ISO 8601 only, please.

jbk , (edited )

Sure, how about 2018-W06-1? Or 2018-036?

ISO 8601 contains way too many obscure formats. RFC 3339 is pretty much a subset and defines only sensible ones. It also allows 2018-02-05 08:02:43-00:00 (no T and explicitly specifying no timezone)

jmcs ,

When you plan your work on weekly sprints, week numbers become second nature.

jbk ,

Yeah but that defeats the purpose of an universal format.

JayDee ,

Yes, correct answer

2002-05-18

2002, May 18th

marcos ,

He knows.

MrScottyTay ,

2nd of May 2018

kernelle , to xkcd in xkcd #2908: Moon Armor Index

One of my all-time favourite facts is that solar eclipses are actually a very rare thing to happen in space. There is no reason why but our moon just happens to be the right size/distance to have this happen.

I've never seen one in person, but the next one is on the 8th of April crossing Mexico and the US. If you have the chance and are able, go check it out, if only to gloat on an internet stranger longing for his first total eclipse.

nyctre ,

Saw one when I was 9 like 20 years ago. Still one of the coolest things I've ever seen. Definitely worth a trip if you can.

Skua ,

One passed over my area while I was at university, and the professor whose class we were meant to be in just said the day beforehand that he wasn't even going to bother scheduling anything for the first hour because he didn't expect anyone to be in. There's a famous hill-top cemetery in the city, and sure enough I saw basically all of my classmates there too

Spzi ,

There’s a famous hill-top cemetery in the city, and sure enough I saw basically all of my classmates there too

That was an unexpected dark turn. Glad you live to tell their story!

Skua ,

Strange things happen under an eclipse, and strangest of them all was a class full of undead attending lectures

carbonari_sandwich ,

And keep in mind that the difference between a total eclipse and a partial eclipse is massive. It's worth it to find a spot that is in the line of totality.

nyctre ,

Yep, total eclipse is metal as fuck

TheRealLinga ,

I got to see one about 7 years ago. Made a whole vacation of it, and was not disappointed. In the darkness, all the birds stopped singing. And to top it off, at the motel I stayed there was a cleaning lady yelling at me to get back into my room because this was a sign from her god saying this was the end of days.

topinambour_rex ,
@topinambour_rex@lemmy.world avatar

As Moon is slowly moving away, at some point in the future there will be no more full eclipse. And there is 2 full eclipse by year !

MonkderZweite ,

Nah, it's just a moving away, then moving closer again thing over millions of years. Balance between gravity and centrifugal force.

topinambour_rex ,
@topinambour_rex@lemmy.world avatar

Ok I read somewhere it would reach it's farthest orbit (29d and half) and stays there then.

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

This is incorrect. The moon is moving away from the earth and will stop. At some point in the future the tidal forces will balance out and the earth-luna system will be tidally locked. From that point on they will remain locked in orbit neither moving away or towards one another unless some other large gravitational force perturbs them (e.g. an extra solar planet wandering through the solar system and passing by earth-luna).

Tylix ,

I'm gonna be dead center for it here in Ohio, so excited. Got my welding helmet ready to watch it and the day off.

kernelle ,

Fuck yes, enjoy bud. I've read people not using high enough rated welding goggles and getting eye damage though. I'd stay on the safe side and get appropriate solar eclipse glasses. You'll be looking directly at the sun for several minutes after all.

Tylix ,

I have shade 14 capable welding helmets, I'm good. I did have to look that up to be sure though. You are right apparently to be worried.

ChapulinColorado , to xkcd in xkcd #2881: Bug Thread

The issue has been automatically closed due to lack of interest after 7 days of inactivity. - git bot

floofloof ,

Every bug tracker seems to do this, and if you submit it again yours will be closed as a duplicate.

DmMacniel ,

I hate those bug trackers and forums. Like you have a problem that is quite difficult to explain. Then, after some time you finally stumbled upon a thread where someone else has the exact same issue... but there is NO solution and the thread was locked due to inactivty.

WHY!?

Feathercrown ,

7 days is the cutoff where it goes from being a bug to being a feature

Hamartiogonic ,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

I recall reading an article about version numbers, and it mentioned an interesting example of some app where the version number is essentially pi. Each update just adds another digit to the version, so eventually it’s going to get really long. When the developer dies, all the remaining bugs in the software will officially become undocumented features.

cron , to xkcd in xkcd #2880: Sheet Bend

I just noticed this info on the xkcd website for the first time:

xkcd.com is best viewed with Netscape Navigator 4.0 or below on a Pentium 3±1 emulated in Javascript on an Apple IIGS at a screen resolution of 1024x1. Please enable your ad blockers, disable high-heat drying, and remove your device
from Airplane Mode and set it to Boat Mode. For security reasons, please leave caps lock on while browsing.

Randall is such a genius.

kurwa ,

Boat Mode needs to be a thing, I don't know what it does but I want it.

JackFrostNCola ,

It unlocks your screen rotation settings and links screen orientation to the phones gyroscopic sensor to maintain orientation perpendicular to the horizon.

Cocodapuf ,

Yeah, now I want boat mode too!

Qwaffle_waffle ,

2024, make it happen!

Funwayguy ,
@Funwayguy@lemmy.world avatar

It'd be like the phone equivalent of Linux's diagonal monitor orientation, only now the touch screen experience is beyond fucked.

Strangely enough this might work for round smart watches though.

sgt_hulka ,

Brilliant! I'd use that as Carsick Mode myself. Maybe then I could read a map in the passenger seat without hurling into the driver's lap.

Phoenix3875 ,

But then you yourself have to be in Boat mode to browse it.

magic_lobster_party ,

Must be a new addition. I haven’t seen it either until now.

usernamesAreTricky ,

It's been there for a while, just hard to spot. From doing a binary search with web.archive.org, it seems it was added on October 5th, 2016 https://web.archive.org/web/20161005090723/http://xkcd.com/

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