GlennicusM ,
@GlennicusM@beehaw.org avatar

The only good thing that could ever come from climate change is Florida being flooded out of existence.

mick_collins ,
@mick_collins@toot.community avatar

@GlennicusM @ProdigalFrog Perhaps, but then we'd have a bunch of displaced legislative malefactors infiltrating other state governments

echodot ,

But that's all right cuz they'll just sell their homes to aquaman.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

You're right.

We should build a wall.

QuandaleDingle ,

They really gonna be cryin' once their 'Glade homes sink. Only then will they backpedal.

Tyfud ,

The literal equivalent of sticking your head in the mud.

stoly ,

I disagree. They will find a way to still be right while blaming the problem on others. Alternatively it’ll be like giant forests. Cut one down and that open space seems perfectly fine to the children who never saw the forest that used to be there.

Badeendje , (edited )
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

The free market will just make living there unaffordable because it cannot be insured anymore.

Without dikes, levees, and a proper system to alleviate water issues, Florida will return to the sea. And Florida man will have to move elsewhere.

hydrospanner ,

Exactly.

Florida about to erase climate change from its laws?

That's fine. Climate change will erase Florida using the laws of nature.

AI_toothbrush ,

How did florida become a shithole btw? As a european for a long time i thought florida was a hotspot for queer culture.

Da_Boom ,
@Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

From what I hear, it's left wing in the big cities, right wing everywhere else. And the electorates or whatever they call them are Gerrymandered so that the right wing areas have more voting power than the left wing. Basically the local government is doing everything they can to keep in power, shitty or not.

Don't quote me though. I'm an Aussie and it's only my probably biased opinion.

Maalus ,

It's far right everywhere else, and rightwing in the city. Democrats aren't a left leaning party.

MacAttak8 ,

I agree with the sentiment. Neoliberals aren’t left wing. Some that caucus with Democrats are.

xilliah ,
@xilliah@beehaw.org avatar

Why do you think people gerrymander? Do they get money for it?

Seems strange to me to go into US politics to then to be anti democratic.

sukhmel ,

They get power from it (and money), that's enough reason for many to be anti democratic

NattyNatty2x4 ,

Are you asking why people who want to hoarde power would try to corrupt a system that resists their attempt to hoarde power?

shasta ,

As a Floridian, I can say you're spot on.

NattyNatty2x4 ,

Not really, you guys are voting in DeSantis for governor and that's not something that can be gerrymandered. The cities may be more liberal than the country, but FL is a GOP state at this point.

shasta ,

The Dems basically threw the last gubernatorial election by running Charlie Crist as their candidate, who was formerly a Republican governor in Florida who later changed parties. Gotta be the stupidest political move I've ever seen by the DNC. Even still, Tallahassee and Orlando voted for him.

In the last presidential election, Tallahassee, Tampa, Jacksonville, West Palm Beach, and Miami all voted for Biden. That is why people say the cities are liberal, and they're correct. I know this from life experience anecdotally, and backed up with stats. However, I do not think the state is suffering from gerrymandering. It's more suffering from the poor state of our education system that leaves the rural areas to rely on mainstream cable news and their family's opinions to determine who to vote for, which leans to the right.

darkphotonstudio , (edited )

This always gets me. WTF has the Democratic Party been doing this whole time? It seems like they are always caught by surprise that conservatives are doing shitty stuff. Why is their messaging so incredibly shit? Why do they suck so bad at being the opposition?

HopingForBetter ,

(((Shh! C'mere... closer... They were never the oposition. That's the point. It's all an act and they're following the script as written.)))

Telorand ,

That's a conspiracy theory, and demonstrably false based on voting records.

The only similarity is in how both capitulate to wealthy lobbyists, but to whom and to what degree are still different by orders of magnitude.

GammaGames ,
@GammaGames@beehaw.org avatar

They aren’t even hiding the conspiracy, openly using scare parentheses

HopingForBetter ,

So, they're definitely not both trying to make more money for themselves while pitting the populace against each other.

And they definitely don't run on a platform of "I'm better than the other guy because [insert current fake issue] is/not anathema."

And, finally, none of them ever switch sides because it's that easy to just switch, like no one gives a shit at any point and often no matter which side gets the votes, the legislation follows the money.

Wow, I've never had my eyes opened so clearly.

Thanks for telling me about conspiracy theories! Is that on your word of the day calendar, or did it just pop up on google?

NattyNatty2x4 ,

Are you dogwhistling some antisemitic shit with those extra parentheses?

HopingForBetter ,

I genuinely have no idea what that means.

Is that a thing?

Telorand ,

They don't spend much money or effort on Florida, that's why. Also, Conservatives are actively moving to Florida in droves (largely from California), seeing it as some kind of bastion for their extremism and bigotry. If they spent the time and effort needed to change things in Florida, the rest of the candidates across the nation would suffer.

And as for the national efforts, Dems are still run by the same milquetoast moderates who think their privilege affords them the leeway to simply hope the extremist problem on the Right will just go away, rather than face the fact that it's a cancer that will only grow if left unchecked.

As for messaging, I have no idea why they suck so much at messaging. They should take a hard look in the mirror and hire some new talent.

ProdigalFrog OP , (edited )
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Vox did a decent video on how the Republicans came to power there in the past decade, since it was traditionally a purple state (50/50 for either party).

shalafi ,

It's not. Yeah, we slipped right after voting for Obama twice, but we're far, far better off than the majority of red states. See: Mississippi, Louisianna, West Virginia, Oklahoma, well, about every one except Texas is worse off than us.

You hear a lot of shit about Florida for 3 reasons:

  • Our governor is a complete ass yet caught national attention as a possible Presidential candidate to run against Trump. He's spent a lot of time trying to go as radical right as possible.
  • Our Sunshine Laws are very liberal. The whole Florida Man meme comes from journalists have broad access to arrest and other records.
  • We're the 3rd most populous state. A lot goes on here. Also, the state is HUGE and wildly varied.
schnapsman ,

It's such a missed opportunity. Climate change could be used as a blanket excuse for a boon in technology, construction, transport network development, urban redesign, an agricultural revolution and all the investment, tourism, etc that would come with that. Adapting our communities and ways of life toward a sustainable world could be an awesome process and something to celebrate. Any politician that sees this and runs with it will look like a hero for relatively little effort.

BallsandBayonets ,

They wouldn't be heros to their donors, who have a lot invested (literally) in keeping things burning (also literally).

Red_October ,

It's only fair. After all, climate change is going to erase Florida.

Telorand ,

My first thought as well.

Reality kind of has this way of not giving a fuck about politics.

Zugyuk ,

Lol, why not make climate change illegal? That was only the criminals would change the climate

lauha ,

We should impeach climate

Anticorp ,

I say we go to war with it.

sukhmel ,

We already are at war with climate 🌚

MeDuViNoX ,
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ItsAFake ,
@ItsAFake@lemmus.org avatar

Don't you love it when the universe gives you the perfect gift.

https://lemmus.org/pictrs/image/6e63d238-94d0-49b6-8642-f3e035674d51.webp

ProdigalFrog OP ,
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ItsAFake , (edited )
@ItsAFake@lemmus.org avatar
ProdigalFrog OP ,
@ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net avatar

Fucking glorious.

sukhmel ,
TropicalDingdong ,

Democrats need to begin to understand that even if they don't think they're at war, Republicans do. They should start fighting like it.

mibo80 ,

climate change: lol I'm going to erase Florida.

runswithjedi ,

Insurance providers: 👀

SlopppyEngineer ,

As I understand it, insurance providers are already leaving and their role is now done by basically a government run socialized insurance.

mibo80 ,

zoinks! s-s-s-socialized?!

Zorsith ,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I'm honestly baffled Disney hasn't just... up and left. They could literally buy the entirety of bumfuck, middle of nowhere, and stick disneyworld there. The loss of tax revenue bought in by tourists would have to be a serious hammer to wield against Florida

Beyond Disney (and universal?) It's just... beaches, boomers, and golf?

dessimbelackis ,

Don’t forget the snakes and gators

Riven ,

Knowing Disney I wouldn't put it past them already scouting out regions. Takes a while to find enough land that can host all of what they need to run the park.

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

No. Climate change is going to drown Florida. That's a completely different thing.

Immersive_Matthew ,

DeSantis and anyone who follows him really are fools. Same with the Trump fans. Fools. There is no other way to put it nicer. I hope the smart people in Florida step up and make some noise, but they are probably busy moving out.

Anticorp ,

As far as I can tell, the trump supporters are several levels detached from reality. We can talk about their real grievances that led to them supporting trump initially, but that was the mile one, 800 miles in the rear view mirror.

assembly ,

What could go wrong it’s not like Florida is at any risk for damage from rising seas right!?!?? Right!?!?!?

SparrowRanjitScaur ,

Rising seas aside, Florida has already been hit by some major hurricanes in recent years and hurricanes are predicted to just get worse with climate change.

fluxion ,

They'll just blame it on wokeness

Mog_fanatic ,

I told you people to not say gay and look what happened!!!

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

nah, the fundies are gonna have a field day with this one.

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