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Theerre's the hostility I was trying to bait into existence

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grep isn't really designed as a natural language search tool but perl -pe can do a pretty similar thing to what you're looking for.

perl -0777 -pe 's/\n/ /g' file.txt | perl -ne 'print "$1\n" while /(.{0,20}(the.orange.menace).{0,20})/g'
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I am not from Ukraine so maybe you don't want my input, but:

  • Wikipedia's map shows a very good up-to-date overview of the high level
  • This channel I find to give good tactical updates from the Ukrainian perspective
  • Metaculus seems to think that by far the most likely outcome is a continuation of the stalemate for a while, followed by some type of partition of the country. I won't say it's possible to predict the future but their predictions are the most reasonable-to-put-faith-in that I know of.
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My guy, 13,000 people dying in a single acute event localized to one city that can be mitigated with some careful foresighted thinking is not what keeps climate scientists up at night.

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Did they go offroading to try to hide the trucks in the trees?

I am not a combat truck person but surely abandoning the truck and running is a better strategy than that. Not trying to talk shit on someone in a desperate situation, but at the same time fuck 'em.

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I am fascinated by OP’s posting history, which consists of:

  • Russia is winning in Ukraine and it’s all the US’s fault that there’s even a war in the first place
  • Texas (often with a sort of pro-GOP culture war angle)
  • Almost nothing else

It is an unusual combination.

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Well, the confluence of "yay GOP" and "yay Russia" isn't all that weird, no... but the exclusive focus on "Texas Texas Texas" with super detailed interest in individual battles in Ukraine, and nothing else (no election, or federal economy, or news from Arizona or over the border in Mexico, etc etc) is a little unusual.

Also, I found this channel that they like posting videos from also to be fascinating, for example with this video:


The most important updates are coming from the United States of America, where, according to information we have, Manhattan Court declares former US president Donald Trump guilty on every single one of the charges. This confirms that the clashes, the battle between Joe Biden, the current president of the United States of America, and the former president, Donald Trump, are getting more and more fierce. According to the latest polls, according to information we have, Trump wins 312 to 226 over Biden.

Biden understands that this is a vital question for him. He understands that if he loses, he's not the only one who will lose; a lot of people will suffer significant problems from Trump. Obviously, after court, after all these charges, Trump will, let's say, seek revenge, not just on Biden but on everybody who supports Biden in, let's say, the next possible presidential term of this person.

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Oh no! How will his career survive, he'll never be taken seriously as an actor without the opportunity to win this prestigious award I've never heard of.

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NAB: proudly bipartisan

DeNiro: Cool. Here's where I am on the political spectrum.

NAB: Well I didn't mean like bipartisan. I meant more like, the-acceptable-viewpoint-or-else-silence bipartisan.

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It's ok to admit when we don't know something, . There's this expectation that we all should know the same things because the Internet exists and you can just look it up, but not everyone travels in the same circles or reads the same books or watches the same shows, and that's fine. Take the opportunity to learn something new, and give space to others that may not be familiar with the subject to figure it out. We can get there together! 😊❤️

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@alshra I would add to that, too... if someone's saying some conclusion that's wrong or offensive or whatever, it doesn't mean they're the enemy. Everyone can be right or wrong about things until they learn or change their mind because of talking. If anyone who doesn't look at things exactly like you is the ENEMY and has to be DEFEATED because they are BAD, then part of the whole point of talking with people who don't see things the way you do (to give them exposure to how you see it, and maybe have them change their mind -- or maybe you realize they were right, or partially right in some aspect you weren't aware of) is a lost and squandered opportunity.

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You gotta wear a helmet though in some places, and depending on where you are you may have to do much more than that

Gotta keep one hand on the handlebars

Gotta have a light

CAN'T RIDE WITH TWO PEOPLE ON THE SAME SEAT

YOU HAVE TO USE FUCKING HAND SIGNALS I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA NOT JUST AMERICA BUT TEXAS FOR GOD'S SAKE

(Fun fact, I actually met someone who got deported after getting stopped by the cops, originally, for riding a bike at night without a light 🙁)

(Edit: Also... banning someone from the libertarian subreddit because they said something you feel like they shouldn't be allowed to say, so you have to use your administrative controls to silence them, is frickin hilarious. Not that I am surprised.)

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More like, regressive policies mean a quick death, centrist policies mean a quick death, reforms like Biden’s mean a slightly slower death but still swift and certain, radical policies according to the most extreme of the “extreme” end of the spectrum mean quite a lot of suffering but maybe some survivability.

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There's a very serious game of brinksmanship going on right now in the South China Sea, with China playing this (to me) weird and bitchy game of using military vessels to damage other countries' vessels or people, but with the "not weapons" parts of their military vessels (water cannons or flares or etc). To me it is just fuckin weird pussyfooting "I'm not touching you I'm not touching you" behavior, but they're doing it to countries like the Philippines that have defense agreements with the US which is the kind of thing that has the potential to escalate in sudden and unplanned fashion sometimes. This is a pretty good overview. I agree with you that it would be terrible for both countries, but sometimes weird and unplanned shit happens when weapons and big nations are involved.

Also, this statement from the OP article I don't think is fully accurate:

Neither side budged from their longstanding positions on Taiwan — which China claims as its own and has not ruled out using force to take

The US doesn't have a longstanding position on Taiwan, other than that we give them weapons and like to talk loudly and pointedly about democracy and how much we like them. We've spent 60 years refusing to say one way or another whether we think they're part of China, or whether we would defend them if China attacked them with military force, and for some reason that's been working so far. Diplomacy is weird.

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I came in here to talk about what a piece of shit Netanyahu is, and to say it actually might not be a bad idea for him to come talk to congress, because of the potential for backlash which it seems to me would outweigh any benefit I could see this carrying for him (like literally I can't really see any productive point to it -- he's already got his weapons; drawing any more attention to himself and giving people a reason to get pissed off at him and say it directly to his face in a fashion that can get onto the news can only lead to bad things for him).

Instead I found myself encountering the word "Biden" for literally no reason at all. You realize that being so transparent about trying to twist around any news story into your favorite conclusion to draw from it, is just throwing into sharp relief how little of a fuck you give about anything that's not related to your project to try to get Trump elected, yes?

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The sounds, too.

I was talking with my dad walking near to a place that had frogs croaking, and he got a little emotional and excited to hear them over the phone. Normally it's just traffic noises now, and silence.

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Where I grew up, the city wanted to hire a bunch of trucks to drive around town spraying malathion into the air to kill the mosquitos. They had a vote, and the town voted overwhelmingly that, fuck no they did not want that, please don't do that, that sounds awful. Then they did it anyway.

Same thing; now there are pretty much 0 fireflies.

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Not exactly; it collapsed, then they closed it once it was too late, and now it's still fucked, 30 years later.

In the early-1990s, the industry collapsed entirely.

In 1992, John Crosbie, the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, set the quota for cod at 187,969 tonnes, even though only 129,033 tonnes had been caught the previous year.

In 1992 the government announced a moratorium on cod fishing.[12] The moratorium was at first meant to last two years, hoping that the northern cod population would recover and the fishery. However, catches were still low,[16] and thus the cod fishery remained closed.

By 1993 six cod populations had collapsed, forcing a belated moratorium on fishing.[14] Spawning biomass had decreased by at least 75% in all stocks, by 90% in three of the six stocks, and by 99% in the case of "northern" cod, previously the largest cod fishery in the world.[14] The previous increases in catches were wrongly thought to be due to "the stock growing" but were caused by new technologies such as trawlers.[13]

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Cod fishing on Canada's eastern coastal waters was halted in 1992 for two years, with the plan being that the population would recover and they could start fishing again. Did you think the population recovered and they just decided not to start fishing again because they forgot? Or that they just had woken up one day and decided to take the drastic step of banning fishing and throwing 30,000 people out of work and destroying one of their thriving industries because nothing had happened to the fish?

The collapse happened before the ban, not after. And they took long enough to notice and implement it that the fishery was driven to total, semi-permanent collapse before the ban, to an extent that they didn't fully realize until several years had gone by and the fish still hadn't recovered.

Here's a pretty detailed summary of the before and after. In 2005, after 13 years of the ban, the cod biomass off Canada's coast was still about 3% of its pre-industrial-fishing levels. That's why there's still a ban: Not that they just hate sending out boats and bringing in fish, but that the population's still fucked and not really recovering, and so any fishing would be simply giving some additional cleaver-whacks to the already dead golden goose. I don't know what the numbers are now, but I would be surprised if they are dramatically better, and I think the chart I cited is an extremely honest and vivid picture of the results of overfishing, and not loaded or anything else as-fuck.

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There are quite a few wonderful stories about the AIs continuing after humans are gone. "For a Breath I Tarry" by Roger Zelazny, and the whole of the Cyberiad by Stanislaw Lem, are some great ones.

That being said one of the critical points of "For a Breath I Tarry" is that the machines are just doing what they're programmed to do, maintaining the infrastructure for no one and just sitting in their orbits keeping the power grid going and all, and are actively hostile to any effort to bring the humans back because that would make things complicated and isn't in their programming (since although superficially they can converse and act "intelligently," more so than humans, they can't really grasp the purpose of things.) Also, "With Folded Hands" by Jack Williamson is another perfectly realistic one.

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Trump: "I got better things to do, like stuffing my pee-hole with tic tacs, or having syrupy sex with a maple tree. Anyone else got anything to say?"

This is one of the best things I've seen on the internet so far

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700 million dogs x 17 kg per dog = 12 Mt of dog

59 million horses x 700 kg per horse = 41 Mt of horse

If horses are 2%, then dogs are 0.5%, less than 1% just like they said

35 million camels x 500 kg per camel = 17 Mt of camel, a little less than 1%

I think the key thing is they're measuring biomass, not just the number of animals, otherwise it would all be stuff like mice and rats (not to say that wouldn't be a valid thing to look at also)

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"Slow Music" by James Tiptree / Alice Sheldon is another very very good story that's exactly like that. Very liminal you could say; lots of going around alone in a world that's all empty but still all well maintained and functional.

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Who the fuck knows

(Not me 😕)

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Ambassador Husam Zomlot: Well, what we know so far, this isn't about Trump or Biden. This is about the US, and so far the US has failed miserably.

TropicalDingDong: And that is why it is VERY IMPORTANT for me to keep talking about Biden, and connecting him and only him to this issue. It's the only way

"Under the Silver Lake" explanation

Okay so the explanation for "Under the Silver Lake" was so obvious (I thought) that I was waiting for the reveal, and then it never came, and then I looked up explanations online, and they also didn't arrive at the same explanation. So with significant spoilers in mind, here is my theory:...

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Yeah, there's a whole different thing of whatever codes are embedded in the movie and a fairly successful effort, I guess, to read into that whole side of it and determine whatever is the mystery at the bottom of all the different codes. I have no opinion on all that stuff; I was just trying to read into what was going on with the plot and the events of the movie.

Although I think it would be hilarious if my "both of the characters who are into codes and finding secrets are out of their goddamned minds wasting their time because there's nothing there" theory translated also into "there's nothing at the bottom of all the different ciphers embedded in the movie and any fans who are digging into it are wasting their time because there's nothing there" 🙂.

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This is your regularly scheduled reminder that Israel actively funds Hamas, and helped them defeat their domestic opposition.

Netanyahu has the option of a more peaceful partner, but he didn't want that. He wanted the more violent people in charge, and as far as I know, is still helping them stay in power. The whole theater where he's concerned about what happens to the hostages is a whole heap of bullshit.

Here's a video of one of his allies trying to visit an Israeli hospital, and a family member and a doctor who just spent time dealing with wounded or dying people because of their policies screaming at her to get the fuck out. Which she does, not looking at all upset by the carnage or their reaction, just kind of inconvenienced.

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Yeah. They "encroached" on 77% of Palestinian land in 1947.

Since then, they've steadily encroached on 56% of what was left.

Now they're encroaching on 32% of Gaza, which is 4% of the 56% of the 77%. The Palestinians are going from owning the least usable 10.1% of all the land they used to own, to now a 9.7% share. So what's the big deal? Doesn't sound like that much.

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Israel absolutely gets to say it has the right to defend itself.

Quick question, does Palestine get to say it has the right to defend itself?

Follow-up, is starving Palestinian children part of what you would claim is Israel defending itself? Or is that something Israel doesn’t have a right to do?

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And yes, it does have the right to defend itself. Perhaps they should send their armies into Gaza Strip to defend their country

I... what? March them across the intervening Israeli territory, so they can engage with the IDF once they arrive in the Gaza strip? Something tells me that wouldn't be the totally logical and good successful step you seem to be suggesting it would be.

So... getting away from the back and forth, I have a feeling that the underlying thing you're saying, that Hamas is a violent terroristic organization and they shouldn't have killed or raped all those people at the music festival, I agree with completely. Where it breaks down for me is:

  1. Likud has been helping Hamas defeat their less-violent domestic opposition, and elevating the most violent and unreasonable element in Palestinian politics, for years now. Which kinda makes it weird for them to all of a sudden get upset that the Palestinians are acting violent and unreasonable. It's like picking the worst and most dangerous dog to take home to your family, then torturing it on purpose because it's a "bad dog," and then blaming someone else when it mauls one of your children, and saying everyone needs to put you in charge and never question you so you can protect everyone against these dogs and keep torturing the dogs. To me, that shit means you should never be in charge of anything again and should maybe be brought up on charges both for what happened to the dog and what happened to your kid.
  2. Any violence Hamas has done to innocent Israelis, the IDF has done to innocent Palestinians ten times over.

To me, no one should get raped at the music festival and no one should watch their children starve. Both of those seem like straightforward things to believe. Anyone on either side who's for a realistic path for peace is the the ally, and anyone on either side who's justifying atrocities is the enemy (as you seemed to do for deliberately starving children -- saying that it happens by accident sometimes, as a way of excusing Israel doing it on purpose, is deliberately missing the point of what I was saying I think.)

I think Hamas leadership and Likud are both guilty of perpetuating the conflict and killing the innocent, and a good solution would be to get the lot of them out of government, bring them up on charges, and find some people whose solution to "they did an atrocity to us" is something other than "Let's do an atrocity to them*! It is justified and will totally fix things because it'll show them not to do that again."

(* "them" being very loosely defined and including a whole bunch of innocent people)

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What percentage of Palestinians currently don't live in the family home they were born / grew up in, because the place they grew up in has been destroyed or taken by the Israelis during their lifetime? I mean obviously for Gaza, the percentage is pretty near 100% at this point, but I'm curious what you think the number is for all Palestinians put together.

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I don't know the percentage.

You sounded like you were saying that Palestinian grievances were reaching back 70 years ago. My point was that there are large numbers of Palestinians who have much more recent grievances than 70 years -- like dead relatives of all ages, or lost homes, within their lifetime. What percent of them have that, I have no idea, and I'm genuinely curious what you think the percentage is. But honestly the point wasn't needing to dig up an exact number, 4% or 20% or 50% or whatever. Any of those is too many, and you seem to define Palestinian retribution for it as "terrorism" while Israeli retribution is defined as "defense."

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Let the problem fester for 70 years until Israel gets tired of their shit and "solves" the problem their own way. Which is how we got here.

See this is the kind of thing you only ever hear from the "stronger" party in the situation, when their "solution" is some kind of rampant injustice.

Like if the US lost patience with Israel's current government, and got a coalition together, landed UN troops in the West Bank with the support of the whole rest of the world to deport all the settlers back inside the 1993 borders (summarily executing any of them that tried to resist the deportation, and just leaving them dead in the street), and hauled away Netanyahu and half his cabinet to the Hague to stand trial (alongside, yes, Hamas leadership who's guilty of much more numerically minor atrocities), you would never accept that that's justified because they're "solving the problem." Even though that's a lot milder and more measured than what Israel is currently doing to "solve" -- i.e. just carpet-bombing the country and causing a man-made catastrophe of famine destruction that's killing innocent people on an industrial scale.

Any violence Hamas has done to innocent Israelis, the IDF has done to innocent Palestinians ten times over.

Is that before or after war was declared? I would expect peacetime and wartime numbers to be different, and separated.

This is a really good question. Here's a comparison showing injuries alongside deaths, here's a comprehensive breakdown of deaths up until the beginning of the current "war," and here's a breakdown for the current conflict itself.

But, hey, I've already acknowledged that it's a shitty solution, and we're a couple of intelligent people, so instead of "finding some people" for this solution, which is what we've been doing for the past 70 years, let's just talk about what the solution should be. What's really the solution here?

Peace talks? How many are we up to now? I've lost count.

Getting rid of Hamas? How do we do that? Why isn't Palestine themselves capable of getting rid of Hamas? After all, they claim to be the owners of the Gaza Strip, so what the fuck are they doing about it? It's been 70 years. How long do we have to wait?

What else? You've been talking about this "realistic path for peace", right? What's that path look like?

Honestly, in my mind, it has to start with the US stopping providing cover for Israel at the UN. I don't think anyone would say that Hamas should be able to kill innocent people and anyone should let it slide -- so when Israel kills innocent people or breaks international law in some other way, it shouldn't just be let to slide either. Let the UN enact actual solutions, then -- sanctions, military action, legal action against leaders who commit war crimes. Both sides are killing innocents, though not in equal numbers. One, that has to stop, and then two, we have to try to address the root causes that are leading to the killing, and come up with something that is livable.

Ben-Gurion actually touched on this exact point, as far as root causes:

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.

"If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"

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Extremely true - but even that aside, if it really was as long ago as 70 years, it wouldn’t be the pressing ongoing issue that it is.

There are Palestinians who lost their homes forever, and Israelis who ignored the UN telling them stop breaking international law, this week and last week and the week before that.

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Everyone knows that when you’re having so much trouble making progress that your “invasion” is stalled at the border after 2 years with no real prospects of going anywhere, you’re supposed to distribute your forces all across the line and attack everywhere all at once. That’s like military strategy 101.

Maybe this will be the master stroke that will finally turn the tide.

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But I was assured that this guy was our only chance to resist Biden because Biden was the guy doin a fascist takeover, and we had to nominate someone else instead, who wouldn’t be a fascist. Like Phillips.

Now I’m all perplexed about it. Surely the people saying that wouldn’t have been lying for some duplicitous reason

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It's funny how this never gets brought up as far as non rich-white-person crime.

Like hey, this guy robbed a liquor store, but for the good of the community I think we should set him free. See? Doesn't work. But for someone reason when it's a much more dangerous type of criminal who's part of the "tribe," everyone starts nodding their heads and saying yeah, the good of the community, that makes perfect logical sense now that you put it that way.

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It’s just looting the corpse at this point.

Mining the goodness that used to be there happened long ago; it got so bad that they killed the patient about a decade ago, and now his decay is getting advanced enough that they know they need to start grabbing his jewelry and hunting through his wallet for any credit cards that haven’t been maxed yet, because it won’t fool anyone to keep toting him around town pretending he’s still the mayor. It was fun while it lasted though.

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I used Usenet and anonymous FTP, archie and gopher, in the days just before the creation of the web. I actually thought the web was weird when my ISP started trying to push it, and couldn't really understand why they were making such a big deal about it and taking so much trouble to explain to me all the things I'd have to do to get hooked up with it (which were significant). It seemed like just a bunch of weird-looking pages and not all that useful. Weird bomb-making recipes in text files from anonymous FTP seemed a lot better.

CompuServe had a very different feel as opposed to the community-run places like FidoNet and Usenet. It always sort of felt like a Dollar General version of the internet, where all the shelves are a little disordered and no one's really paying that much attention to what's going on. Usenet and FTP were very cool. There was wild stuff on there.

Getting access to email was very cool. Before that it was sending letters, or talking on the phone with family members or random strangers walking around hearing you. Getting a physical letter from someone you were distantly-connected to was very cool in a way that's not replicated on any electronic network, and email seemed initially like it was better, although I think now that in letters we lost something important.

Probably the most massive difference between now and those days is something I don't see people talk about very much: Before the internet, there really was only 1 viewpoint and 1 viewpoint only on the news. US soldiers were the good guys. Neoliberals in government are looking out for you. Criminals are bad. It's just... it's hard to explain, because now there's such a wealth of different opinions and ways of looking at things that it seems normal, but back then it was very rare to get your hands on even one little piece of "subversive" viewpoint. When the Rodney King beating made the news, it was really electrifyingly shocking; at least to the white world, the idea that the cops would ever do something wrong or could even be charged with a crime was aberrant and confusing. They found the cops not guilty in the first trial. It was just too much to take on, to change the jury's world view around to that they might have done something illegal, even with the whole thing on video.

I got an issue of Adbusters and it was like this wild precious thing, an artifact from some other world. I was visiting somewhere when I found it; it wasn't available in my hometown. On the early internet, I was reading a message board where some people were talking about tactics fighting against NATO troops, and it was fucking mind blowing. Like... they're the enemy. How can they be allowed on the internet? Like people? And then I started downloading episodes of "Off the Hook" and issues of 2600, and it sort of was this gateway into this whole other way of looking at the world. I read some Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn, and around that time this whole other type of media came along, and in about 5-10 years it became, silently but inexorably, an acceptable thing. But when I was growing up, it wasn't.

It's not gonna be possible, I think, for someone from today to really understand how blinkered the view was of the world for 99% of people, before the internet came along. I don't know how well it will translate to today, but I remember Spin as another big watershed at the time, in showing me how much fakeness was in a lot of what I thought was real.

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And more about him being in prison for speaking out against the war.

“I know of no reason why the workers should fight for what the capitalists own,” Debs wrote to novelist Upton Sinclair, “or slaughter one another for countries that belong to their masters.”

Illness slowed Debs for several months after war was declared; he mostly stayed home in Terre Haute, resting under doctor’s orders, sick with back pain, digestion problems, and a weak heart. But in December, his friend Kate O’Hare, the nation’s most prominent female socialist, was convicted under the Espionage Act for a July 1917 anti-war speech and sentenced to five years in prison. “I shall feel guilty to be at large,” Debs wrote her in solidarity. In May 1918, Congress passed the Sedition Act, further tightening restrictions on dissent.

Enraged, Debs set out in June on a new speaking tour of the Midwest. He knew he was courting prosecution, and maybe even welcomed it. “I’ll take about two jumps and they’ll nail me, but that’s all right,” he told a friend.

Two weeks later, Debs was walking into a Socialist picnic in Cleveland when U.S. marshals arrested him.

“I have been accused of having obstructed the war,” Debs told the jury. “I admit it. I abhor war. I would oppose the war if I stood alone.” He defended socialism as a moral movement, like the abolition of slavery decades before. “I believe in free speech, in war as well as in peace,” Debs declared. “If the Espionage Law stands, then the Constitution of the United States is dead.”

The jury found Debs guilty on three counts, and the judge sentenced him to ten years in prison.

The Wilson administration, unmoved, rejected a recommendation to commute Debs’ sentence in February 1921. “While the flower of American youth was pouring out its blood to vindicate the cause of civilization, this man, Debs, stood behind the lines, sniping, attacking, and denouncing them,” Wilson complained to his secretary. “This man was a traitor to his country."

In December 1921, Harding commuted Debs’ sentence, set his release for Christmas Day, and invited Debs to the White House. “I have heard so damned much about you, Mr. Debs, that I am now very glad to meet you personally,” Harding greeted him on Dec. 26. Leaving the meeting, Debs called Harding “a kind gentleman” with “humane impulses,” but declared that he’d told the president he would continue the fight for his “principles, conviction, and ideals.” He took the train to home to Terre Haute and his wife, Kate, the next day.

Debs died in 1926 at age 70.

Pretty much the same thing as raw-dogging a porn star just after your wife gave birth and then committing felony business fraud and campaign finance violations to cover it up, I guess.

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At some point you have to commit to it being “broken” (actually working as intended of course) and organize based entirely on the fact that it is and can not be supported in any way whatsoever

I actually have no issue with almost everything in the video. I copied out the transcript and then skimmed it, not wanting to give dangerous disinformation any views. It sounded like a pretty 100% accurate breakdown of why the antisemitism bill is horrifying; pretty much my only issue with it is the weird sudden 90 degree turn it takes into blaming the whole thing on Biden.

The strategy it's implicitly advocating for as a response to the bill, just like your "you have to commit to it," is going to potentially make forward left wing progress almost impossible in the US for quite some time, if Trump wins, as well as get a whole bunch of people killed who didn't need to die. Ukrainians, Palestinians, Americans, and a bunch more. Maybe even you, too, if you live in the US and ever plan to take part in a protest after January 2025.

You can dress it up however makes you feel better about that outcome.

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Lmao, so on the same day that I said this, this comment of mine got 7 downvotes in a space of 2 minutes, 5 hours after I posted it, from a variety of accounts each with one- or two-word nonsense names with the first letters capitalized, perfectly evenly spread out among exactly 7 instances.

I'm honestly a little bit surprised that the actual real lemmy.ml users can't manage to muster up enough natural downvotes to overcome me coming in and disagreeing with them, but somebody got salty enough about my comment to feel like it needed a bunch of fake downvotes. Hello @Alsephina -- were those you? You posted your comment 3 minutes before the 7 fake downvotes came in. I think you need to be more subtle with your fake voting if you want people not to notice. Federated votes are not private.

(I actually don't think that's any kind of propaganda-bot operation; I don't think the propaganda bots are that un-subtle, if they are actually doing any kind of fake voting. But who knows.)

(Oh, also he seems to have replied to himself from one of the fake-voting accounts, agreeing with himself about how wrong I was 😃)

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In Living Color, Liquid Television, The Simpsons when it first came on. For some reason these little separate groupings of people with no connection at all to one another just all decided it was okay to show genius weird shit on TV, all of a sudden, when before that it was all just "Cheers" and bullshit and whatever.

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