GottaLaff ,
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We need to do this in the US.

“Tens of thousands of demonstrators crowded onto French streets on Saturday to denounce the rise of the country’s far-right political party and call on fellow citizens to block it from taking power in snap parliamentary elections set by President Emmanuel Macron.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/15/world/europe/france-protests-far-right.html?smid=threads-nytimes

bhasic , (edited )
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@GottaLaff And in . Yesterday a previously convicted stabbed a immigrant looking 12 yo child and tried to stab other kids too. The stabbed child is alive but in critical condition. Our party's chairman and minister of finance tweeted that the stabber was immigrant gang member again. She lied only to spread and hate. It's all the party is about. And our previously moderate party is ok with this and that we have literal in our government.

bhasic ,
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@GottaLaff The previously moderate, now party is the winner and has its chairman as prime minister. Its ok for them to have nazis as ministers if they can rob the state and make the poor and sick more poor.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@bhasic Omg

RiaResists ,
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@GottaLaff we really do.
Of course in this country we have to worry about our who are armed to the teeth & not above running people over.
We really should be in the streets.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@RiaResists Please know that "alt right" is a euphemism for Nazis that Richard Spencer coined to normalize it.

Gobabu ,
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@GottaLaff @RiaResists
Or Alt-gr on the kb. Cause they aggro.

econads ,
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@GottaLaff @onepict have to say here in Germany it doesn't seem to have helped that much against the AFD. The party leadership said it was actually good publicity. I don't know what the answer is though, maybe personal conversations. Maybe EU elections don't count as much but I'm scared.

onepict ,
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@econads @GottaLaff this is why I say every election counts.

In the UK getting 5 percent of the vote matters because a candidate party gets their deposit back. I don't know if it's the same in the EU.

But the more of us who can vote should vote. It's why I love the fact the French left are trying an alliance. I don't know how long it will last, but there's an attempt at providing an alternative and to signal to the centrists, perhaps they want to shift to the left a bit.

I'm scared too.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@onepict @econads I’m scared, too. I’m saying give everything a shot, give everything you have, including protests. NOT protesting doesn’t do a thing.

econads ,
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@GottaLaff @onepict
There's a school of thought that they just make hay off it to fuel the victim complex they all seem to have. I don't know what's true.

Fintanz ,

@GottaLaff In the USA it would be more productive turning up to vote. Rather than protesting that other people won.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Fintanz In the USA, both are true. Protests help, voting is mandatory.

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GottaLaff OP ,
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LynnU ,
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@GottaLaff We all need to unite against the far-right.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@LynnU 100000000%

havvyhh2 ,
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@GottaLaff ....yes, totally agree....AMERICANS, WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO DO THIS!!

18+ AlgoCompSynth ,
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@GottaLaff I'm not at all convinced this is a good idea, for two reasons:

  1. What worked in the 1960s gave us heroes to look up to, but it took a landslide victory for LBJ and bipartisan support in Congress to actually change the law.

  2. The Gaza protests have energized militarized police forces and been turned into a problem for Biden.

Ultimately, I think we have to trust the DNC/DSCC/DCSC, our advocates who are mostly winning in the courts, and the voters to do the right things to give us the closest thing to a Biden/Harris landslide and a Democratic House and Senate we can get.

18+ AlgoCompSynth ,
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@GottaLaff TL;DR - we simply cannot allow ourselves to be distracted from winning as many elections as possible in November. Demonstrations are a distraction.

18+ GottaLaff OP ,
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@AlgoCompSynth Quite the opposite. Protests bring attention to the problem and they often work.

18+ AlgoCompSynth ,
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@GottaLaff What specific demands do you have that people would be willing to march for against a militarized police force? It was clear in the 60s and 70s - voting rights, and end to segregation, an end to the Vietnam war. And the police back then didn't have the armaments they do now.

But the 1968 protests in part cost Hubert Humphrey the presidency. I think Biden can survive the Gaza protests if he, Blinken and our allies in the Middle East can get a cease fire and massive relief for the people of Gaza. The GOP is hoping Netanyahu makes that impossible.

Ultimately people have to make their own decisions on when and why to protest. I trust the party leadership and our legal advocates. And I remember 1968 and Kent State. I was in graduate school then.

compost ,
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@GottaLaff

In the US, you just need to vote the felonious monk out. You just have one job.

soveryoleary ,
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@GottaLaff
And/or rolling General (buying/labor)

VeroniqueB99 ,
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@GottaLaff The French always do revolution better than anyone... 🤣 along with wine, cheese and perfume of course...

GottaLaff OP ,
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@VeroniqueB99 And food in general.

VeroniqueB99 ,
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@GottaLaff 😉 👍 Exactly....

lin11c ,
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@GottaLaff
Yes we do! But we are so large and spread out. Lots of demonstrations in DC are necessary. Actually all the large cities. The Womans March energy is necessary. Women, it may be up to us again. Such a shame that this group was destroyed by infighting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Women%27s_March

GottaLaff OP ,
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@lin11c Thank you for that

peterpohlenz ,
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@GottaLaff the french are the guardians of art and freedom.

ratel ,
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@peterpohlenz @GottaLaff we're not. I really hope the far-right will be defeated but there's a lot of moral confusion in our minds about what the rule of law is or should be, about the rights of the unemployed, about antisemitism, about peace and war, etc. Ignorance is thriving and it's getting suffocating.

KatM ,
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@GottaLaff Hell yes we do!

@Npars01

GottaLaff OP ,
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@KatM 👊🏼

Doppelganger75 ,
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@GottaLaff Absolutely!

colorfiend ,
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@GottaLaff We did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Women%27s_March

"It was at the time the largest single-day protest in U.S. history" We still lost Roe

GottaLaff OP ,
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@colorfiend Yes, 7 years ago.

That_Damn_Frank ,
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@GottaLaff

You still haven't told us where you E-vac'd from in the US before you landed a cushy landing in Canada...

colo_lee ,
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@That_Damn_Frank @GottaLaff If you'd been paying attention that would be easy to know...
And emigrating is hard no matter how welcoming your new home is.

Back to the topic, it's great to see the French people speaking out!

GottaLaff OP ,
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@colo_lee @That_Damn_Frank Frank, seriously? I’ve posted a number of times about every moment of my “cushy” landing.

If you thought one moment of this was “cushy” or easy, then you’re dead wrong.

Wow.

And thank you, Lee, for having my back.

That_Damn_Frank ,
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@GottaLaff @colo_lee

Canada seems wonderful.

No, "Not A Stalker", so no, I haven't read about the issues you've suffered in Canada or the Hateful Mob of MAGA Scum that harassed you in the US to force you there.

Glad Lee is there to rub your back; you sure seem mentally stressed.

Sorry I missed Wonder Woman where you explain all this.

Also sorry that the MAGA hell-hole you left still owns you so much that you can't name/shame them w/o fear... even while living in Canada.

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