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quantumfoam , in Why don't Americans use electric kettles? | Technology Connections [24:54]

Although i like things that are simple and just work, dont fix it if it aint broken, and hate over-engineered technology... It still is funny to me that if we want to heat things up, we do it by running current through a piece of metal. Isnt there a more efficient way? I guess not or we would be using it.

SpaceCowboy ,
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Induction stoves and microwaves are improvements for certain scenarios.

Username ,

Excluding heat pumps, that's as efficient as it gets physically.

Chadus_Maximus ,

Every other method is too unreliable. Sure, heating water by letting it sit in sunny weather is technically infinite efficiency, but the weather doesn't care about your tea.

RampantParanoia2365 , in Why don't Americans use electric kettles? | Technology Connections [24:54]

I just started using a French press because I was sick of making 4 cups just for myself in the drip machine. Been meaning to get an electric kettle.

RBWells , in Why don't Americans use electric kettles? | Technology Connections [24:54]

We do, though. Every morning.

capital , in Why don't Americans use electric kettles? | Technology Connections [24:54]

Been using mine every day lately for my Aeropress.

jelloeater85 , in Why don't Americans use electric kettles? | Technology Connections [24:54]
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I use mine to pre boil water sometimes. It's also great for making coffee as well as tea.

dragontangram88 , in Why don't Americans use electric kettles? | Technology Connections [24:54]
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A lot of people probably use the hot water tap on water dispensers now.

Microplasticbrain ,

Ewwww

howrar ,

Tap water rarely goes anywhere near boiling temperature

dragontangram88 ,
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I don’t know. Dispenser water has helped me make ramen and tea. Thats about all I need. If I want to boil potatoes, I’ll use the stove, or a crockpot.

delirious_owl , in Why don't Americans use electric kettles? | Technology Connections [24:54]
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Spoiler, its because we dont drink as much tea.
Tea drinkers do own kettles in the US.

stoly ,

I think more, though, is that people don't really know they exist. Maybe you see it on the shelf at a supermarket and don't notice it--it's not in the US psyche. If you start to think about it a bit, an electric kettle makes more sense, but we're not used to it.

gamermanh ,
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If you start to think about it a bit, an electric kettle makes more sense

Not when everyone's got a microwave already, likely doesn't have the counter space for another gadget that they don't use very often.

If you regularly make 1-3 mugs worth of hot water a kettle makes sense. If you regularly boil larger amounts, or don't regularly boil water, the microwave you already own is only slightly slower, so why spend the money?

EssentialCoffee ,

Most tea drinkers I know use a microwave, a Keurig, or a stove kettle, not an electric kettle.

I only know one tea drinker with an electric kettle and they normally use their microwave.

frezik ,

Teas are best at a specific temperature, depending on the type. Same with coffee brewing methods and different types of beans. Microwaves can't do that.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

Also, a microwave will boil water just as quickly without having another appliance taking up space.

cone_zombie ,

I don't know why you're being downvoted without anyone actually debunking what you've said, so I'll try. You're right about not having another appliance being convenient, but I doubt a microwave is just as effective. If you're just heating a cup of water, then yes. But boiling even a liter of water would take about 5 minutes in a microwave on the highest setting, which would take about 2 mins in a kettle. Not even taking into account that actually boiling water in a microwave is near impossible, because it would spill everywhere

Strykker ,

Except the typical microwave is 1000 or maybe 1200 watts, while an electric kettle is usually 1500 watts, so even if all the energy the microwave used went into the water it's still up to 50% less than what a kettle will put into the water.

RampantParanoia2365 ,

Boiling water in a microwave can actually be dangerous, and cause super-heating.

PrinceWith999Enemies ,

It’s true. I drink a lot of tea, and I’ve owned an electric kettle for the last 20 years. I like the ones that allow me to select the temperature depending on what I’m making.

Etterra , in Why don't Americans use electric kettles? | Technology Connections [24:54]

Why bother when I have a coffee machine for coffee, a microwave for everything else, and a nearby harbor for tea?

Serpent ,

What is a nearby harbour? I googled it but nothing came up.

CraigeryTheKid ,

joke/reference to boston tea party?

Etterra ,

Bingo.

Malek061 ,

It is right next to freedom, egalitarianism, and just beside american exeptionalism. If you have hit monarchy, you have gone too far.

Etterra ,

Mostly i just hate tea and taxes tbh.

CptEnder ,

And Red Coats, don't forget them

stoly ,

Yes but that tea is extra salty...like the people who made it.

Vespair , in Why don't Americans use electric kettles? | Technology Connections [24:54]

I've owned an electric kettle for over a decade.

They aren't ubiquitous here, but go into any Walmart or Target and you'll find them there.

The real reason they aren't ubiquitous in America is the majority of Americans aren't daily tea drinkers and most (notice pedants I said most and not all) American coffee drinker use drip coffee machines or Keurigs instead of a French press, so for most Americans there simply isn't a regularly enough need for hot water so as to justify an electric kettle.

That's it. That's the whole reason.

Etterra ,

Or just heat the mug off water in the microwave like a normal person if you're gonna leaf soup.

Vespair ,

Or boil a small pot? When I'm somewhere away from my electric kettle, I boil a pot instead of microwave. I'm sure I'm not alone. But yeah, either way the point remains that an electric kettle is only a convenience for people who are regularly using hot water far beyond the typical American's custom.

RedIce25 ,

Wait, you microwave your tea?

CraigeryTheKid ,

just the water, and then you put the bag in after you take it out. Ceramic mug of hot water.

but i joined modern life and last year we bought an electric kettle.

RedIce25 ,

Might as well just turn on the warm tap water at that point and put the tea bag in it.

Thassodar ,

Does your microwave not get water hot? Am I missing something?

Your sink tap shouldn't get hot enough to steep tea in.

EssentialCoffee ,

If your tap water gets that hot, you should probably turn down your water heater for safety.

graeghos_714 ,

Yep, I'm a tea drinker and even take my kettle when I travel. But we also use it to boil water that will go on the stove because it gets it to boiling so much faster when making pasta or something. My son also drinks French press so it gets a lot of use

Pulptastic ,

I can buy some special widget that takes up counter space, or I can keep a kettle on the stove.

If I had 240 or 480 to rapid boil maybe it would be a perk, but stovetop is fast enough for my needs.

Sakychu ,

Thanks for restating the video??

Vespair ,

I didn't watch the video. The entire point of my comment was you don't need a 20+ minute video to learn this, you just need a paragraph.

Sakychu ,

How do you know that there is nothing else in that video of note if you didn't even gave it a chance?

Vespair , (edited )

It might. But the title didn't give that impression, so it failed in its job at enticing me to click. No content is entitled to my viewership.

So like, what point do you think you're actually making here?

edit: its not it's

frezik ,

Technology Connections has a knack for making topics interesting. It's been a while since I watched this one, but I believe it breaks down the timing of kettles vs gas range vs electric resistance range vs electric induction. It also dispels a myth that it's because kettles on 120v plugs aren't good (they're slower than 240v, but still faster than stoves).

Vespair ,

That's fine and good, and I might even watch the video based on your recommendation, but none of that refutes or deflates anything I've said thus far on the topic.

But I do appreciate the extra contextual information and recommendation, sincerely 👍

IamtheMorgz ,

True. I'm American, but I lived a couple years in the UK and got into drinking (hot) tea while I lived there. I'd never seen an electric kettle before, but I'm back in the US now and you bet I have one!

cone_zombie ,

What I've learnt from different youtube videos, seems like Americans are almost allergic to hot drinks (except hot chocolate). It's quite funny watching them approach very cautiously, almost like a cat sniffing liquid before they drink 🤣

gamermanh ,
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...that's because they're hot.

You can't always tell how hot something is when handed it, so you carefully sip toale sure it's not scalding

You can dip your finger in, too, but gross

Vespair ,

Americans drink a ton of hot coffee, it's just typically drip.

Personally I can't stand coffee, but I'm a hot tea drinker. While I doubt we can stand up to the likes of places like the UK or China in terms of hot beverage consumption, I'd bet we're solidly middle-of-the-road globally on that metric.

That being said, what America does have is an uncommonly strong taste for cold drinks. Most Americans drink almost nothing at or around room temperature, so anything that isn't specifically a "hot drink" like tea or coffee is probably going to be served here very cold or on ice (excluding alcohol; most of us aren't drinking our Bordeaux with ice cubes, I promise). So yeah I guess our "average drink temp" is probably much lower due to that cold preference, if that's the kind of thing you think is worth measuring, but that cold preference doesn't mean hot drinks aren't still extremely common in America. They are.

Edit: I see somebody down voted you and wanted to state that it was not me. I don't think you said anything dismissive, or offensive, or off-topic, so I do not believe your comment deserves to be down voted. I know others don't care about this, but i do, so pardon this quick explainer

RampantParanoia2365 ,

What? Many many people drink hot coffee, but drip coffee makers do their own heating. And one sips it carefully because....it's hot.

boatsnhos931 , in Why don't Americans use electric kettles? | Technology Connections [24:54]

Doesn't an empty coffee maker do the same thing? That's what I thought, Merica is number 1 baybee!!

core , in Why don't Americans use electric kettles? | Technology Connections [24:54]

I use one to make coffee in my French press.

southsamurai , in Why don't Americans use electric kettles? | Technology Connections [24:54]
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Regular tea drinkers do. Otherwise, they aren't useful.

Light tea drinkers don't have a use for them because for single cups now and then, you're better off nuking the water to temp.

Hell, I have a cup almost every day, and that's still not worth having another thing on the counter for.

The U.S. is more into coffee than tea overall. But I know plenty of people that drink tea often enough to merit having one and using it.

Frozengyro ,

I drink tea a couple times a week. These are way way better than microwaving a cup of water and nearly as quick. The biggest thing for me is getting the water temp right where I want it for whatever I'm drinking. Also, they don't take up much space, and you can put them in a cabinet when you aren't using them.

EssentialCoffee ,

You're assuming there's cabinet space after having a mixer, a crock pot, stock pots, a pressure cooker, an air fryer....

trashgirlfriend ,

Kettles are fucking tiny tho compared to the average appliance

GildorInglorion ,

We have one because of the tea drinkers in the house. But I use it a lot more than I would have imagined. Oatmeal, making stock from soup base, etc. I have an induction stove, but the kettle is easier to pour than a pot.

trashgirlfriend ,

They're great for everything from tea to coffee, instant ramen, boiling water faster on the stove. Not having a kettle and having to boil/microwave water would be a pain imo.

stoly ,

It's also faster than boiling a pot of water on the stove so you can save time if you run it through the kettle and then poor it into a pot on the stove to boil whatever you were making.

gamermanh ,
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Which can also be done with the microwave without having to get an extra device

Microwave can heat MORE water than a kettle, too. Unless your microwave is oddly small or your kettle freakishly huge, that is

ElmarsonTheThird ,

Or you don't own a microwave.

stoly ,

Microwaving water is exceedingly dangerous and should never be done.

gamermanh ,
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No, it's not, and you shouldn't spread old wives tales as though they're truth

stoly , (edited )

Please educate yourself. Your dig on me at the end is unironically complete projection as you are spreading dangerous information.

https://scienceillustrated.com.au/blog/science/ask-us-why-is-it-dangerous-to-heat-water-in-the-microwave/

gamermanh ,
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Please educate yourself

Ironic considering I already knew you were talking about superheating, which requires an incredibly smooth container and multiple microwaving attempts to pull off

You can prevent such dangers by: not double-microwaving your water (even then it's a low chance), using a rougher cup, or sticking anything (like a spoon) in there while you heat it

But sure, keep acting like a rare occurrence under incredibly specific circumstances is something to be deathly afraid of. Whatever floats your boat. Just stop spreading it around.

stoly ,

It’s really shocking the degree of condescension that exudes from you. It’s like you’re trying to cover up your own insecurities or something. Hmm…

gamermanh ,
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Quite simple, really:

Someone said something blatantly false on the Internet and tried to be smarmy back when they're wrong. Might I also add: nice projection.

If it makes you feel better to think I'm in some way insecure about a simple fact (that the video from OP goes over as well, btw) then I guess feel free but it only makes you look like a bigger idiot to me.

stoly ,

Blah blah blah. /out

gamermanh ,
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Ah, you're a child

Stay mad that you're wrong rather than learn a basic fact about the world you weirdo

stoly ,

We’ll just go ahead and block you and get back to some semblance of normality. Go get some help buddy.

gamermanh ,
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The projection is staggering

So mad that I hit reply on a website, pathetic

kindenough , in Why don't Americans use electric kettles? | Technology Connections [24:54]
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I have an hotwater dispenser for tea, it always heats up the exact amount of water, cup of tea in less than 30 sec.

AbsurdityAccelerator ,

Hot water dispenser is very useful. I also use it to fill up the rice cooker, and it cuts the cooking time from from 30 to 20 minutes. And it's great for instant noodles.

jordanlund , in Why don't Americans use electric kettles? | Technology Connections [24:54]
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Same reason tea drinkers don't use coffee pots. :)

But if the dude wants his mind blown, he needs to boil that water on an induction stovetop.

https://youtu.be/qiodED9J79E

AbsurdityAccelerator ,

You didn't watch the video, did you? He does test it.

perviouslyiner , (edited )

ITT: People thinking Alec would forget some obvious thing and not have made entire videos about each possible tangent.

frezik ,

I don't get it. I text my wife something like "Technology Connections just put up a one hour video about dishwashers" and it's the first thing on our watch list that night. Do other people not do this?

gamermanh ,
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I do

My wife rolls her eyes and walks away cuz she doesn't care but her life is about to get 1% more efficient as I force change on our house

(His video on dishwashers actually got me to change her fucking behaviour around it and now our dishwasher works properly thank fuuuuuck)

Bonehead ,
Gradually_Adjusting , in Why don't Americans use electric kettles? | Technology Connections [24:54]
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I had a kettle for over a decade before I moved to the UK and got a fancier one. It might be faster here, but I never timed it and it wasn't a big factor for me.

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