I think it is a little bit. People who own up and admit to their mistake shouldn't be downvoted. Everyone makes mistakes, but it's not always easy to admit. That's why sharing sources is important too
That's something to appreciate about Lemmy. People can destroy you while you hold a position they think is wrong, but as soon as you change your mind they are friendly.
So far a lot of the people I've interacted here have been more dense than reddit, I mean, a lot of the people here have been banned from reddit after all.
I mean, so was I. But it was for quoting someone's use of a slur so they couldn't edit it, then evading that bullshit ban. Apparently when you actively call out nazis and sexist assholes the powers that be will find a way to make you regret it.
You are so cool for being able to point out political ideology you don't like, you're cool.
edit: I also love how I just said "nazis and sexists" and this clown goes "Oh yeah, the left is bad too!" Bruh, doesn't that say something right there that you assumed it was a political attack?
Lemmy and most sites are a lot better when you turn off likes/votes/whatever arbitrary number they call it. I don't really give a shit how many people like/dislike something.
I think you’re probably right, but I also suspect that the upvote button avoids a lot of “this” and “you are so right” replies burying the substantive ones. It’s certainly kept me from making low value or redundant replies in the past.
It’s also interesting to occasionally scroll though my post history and see which comments struck a nerve with fellow lemmings. It’s a secondary simplified version of the social interactions and discussions here.
Once the hive mind takes over and the downvote train starts it’s all but impossible to turn your post positive regardless of contrition. It’s unfortunate because it removes some incentive to publicly self-correct.
This is why so many people edit their comments that are wrong and get corrected by someone else to say EDIT: CORRECTED BELOW or something, to prevent mindless downvotes from lazy people not reading the full chain of comments. Personally I think it's worse like that but I can see why they do it if they care about karma.
I prefer people do that than either delete the comment, or edit the original. Otherwise the comment chain makes no sense, and people don't get a chance to learn from the original incorrect comment.
Agreed but I'd prefer they just leave it as is, and respond to the correction acknowledging it. That way the original comment and responses are there for everyone to read. Only LLMs are going to be confused by that!
The public voting system is massively flawed when it comes to websites and sharing content. Since anyone who really wants visibility can just pay any number of services to boost their posts and comments, you have no idea what's real and you have no idea what the general public actually supports.
For the average person who doesn't think about what's going on behind the scenes, it looks like an accurate representation of society's interests and leanings. This is probably why we have a sharp uptick of far-right assholes and why so many young guys are turning towards sexist, racist figures online. The very same people who also proudly talk about how good they are at manipulating people. Hmmn.
This should be less true for lemmy, instance admins have very direct access to server logs so they should directly be able to see say, a batch of bot accounts signing up and starting a voting ring.
I hated downvotes on Reddit because like merely 5 would silence all anti honeymoon's sentiment. This place, your can have a million downvotes but the comment is still there so i just count em as engagement points. Someone felt strongly, that means i wrote something worth reading in a way
I can't even see downvotes on here and I quite like it. If someone can't be bothered to actually tell me why I'm wrong I don't care much about their opinion anyway.
Lemmy isn't immune, I had a recent encounter that rubbed me wrong recently in a redditish way. It's quickly gone downhill here, I'm sure before too long, just like reddit I'll turn to lurk only then go away as the posts themselves become mostly intolerable.
I've been feeling like it's been getting better, not worse. But maybe I'm not engaging in the posts where my thoughts are seen as controversial anymore.
Possibly, it's a shark tank, be positive, never any nuanced opinions, keep swimming forward in the pack and you are ok. Any blood in the water and you get torn apart. Most people are genuinely nice but the amount of terrible and loud people online is frightening and/or depressing.
Transcendence is not giving a fuck and being confidently wrong.
sometimes i like to just, say the wrong opinion, for no reason other than i think it's funny. But also educational to watch how people react to things.
i consider it to be tangential to trolling, it's not really trolling in the traditional manner of just inciting anger to incite anger. It's more so saying something that's wrong to say something that's wrong with the purpose of defending it to see how people react to it.
yup, but it should also come as no surprise to most people with more than about, 3 iq. That the votes on a post mean almost nothing other than "what other people thought about it" because other people are known to have very reasonable and normal opinions en masse.
My favorite random downvotes on Reddit were the threads where for some damned reason a single reply that often said the same thing as the others, or continued some chain, would get absolutely obliterated.
"I posted incorrect information and then people downvoted it, so now people can't see the incorrect information I posted! This site is horrible!"
Sounds like it's working as advertised. Don't post incorrect info if you don't like downvvotes. Upvotes mean "more people should read this." Why do people need to read you being wrong? How is that a good contribution?
Better yet: on Lemmy it doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, support yourself with facts or have someone else do it, admit mistake or not...if what you post isn't in alignment with the overall masses, it's jail downvotes.
Apparently. But the discussion was about how he achieves his buoyancy. But if you'd like to downvote my responses, feel free to pick any comment from my recent history.
Thats something entirely different though. Using votes to show disagreement/agreement makes sense as a tool of democratic communication. This goes for comments that contain statements.
OP describes a "jail" type of usage, where there is nothing to disagree but people downvote amyways (to feel superior maybe), wich sucks cause it reads like hate
It happened to me when I mistakenly said that people with “ski” endings to their surname are Jewish Poles when it in fact apparently only means they have Polish ancestry and nothing about their religion lol
And on any other platform with similar demographics that has a downvote option. Luckily magical internet points don't matter and the worst that can happen is your comment gets hidden.
