SorteKanin ,
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I almost can't imagine a reasonable upper bound. Maybe 1000? That would certainly be enough to be able to do some serious stuff.

The ability to sync memories and have the same experiences and past would be crazy. I could align myself and all the clones to a shared goal easily. With the amount of clones, I could do basically anything.

Only problem I can see is... is there a way to know the "original"? Would I be in control of my clones? Or would I myself just be another clone? I think I'd still go for something like 1000 even if I was just another clone.

tetris11 OP ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

If you wanted to, you could tattoo each clone with a timestamp to know who was the true Alpha.

In terms of control, you could do the Naruto method of spawning a few clones for a given task, and then halting them (with a memory sync) before proceeding on to the next stage of your plan and spawning off new clones with your new memories.

1000 seems a bit excessive to be honest. I can imagine having 1 or 2 for leisure, 2 or 3 for work, 2 or 3 for hobby projects, maybe a max of 10 to make me happy.

The other 990 seems like you have visions of world domination

SorteKanin ,
@SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

The other 990 seems like you have visions of world domination

I think I would need more than 1000 clones for that :P but definitely visions of some major influence. Why not if given that kind of power? I would try and make the world a better place.

HelixDab2 ,

8.6 billion.

Each of my clones would kill one person that was not a clone of me. Then we would all commit suicide.

Climate change is solved. You're welcome. Hopefully the next animal to evolve consciousness does a better job of it.

Mac ,

You mean feed and house more people on a single income and subject those people to this hellscape? No thanks.

Plus, is my clone really going to be fine with acting as a slave? Unlikely.

keepcarrot ,

I thought about this and sometimes I really appreciate having someone to offload executive function to (like a personal trainer). Maybe we could take turns.

jol ,

I enjoy both acting like a leader, as well as not having to think and just doing what I'm told. But I don't enjoy, or am productive, when I have to both act as my own leader and follow my instructions. Splitting in 2 and aplitting those 2 roles would probably increase my productivity and happiness 10 fold.

keepcarrot ,

Yeah, I find that I get squished between increases in responsibility without corresponding increase in power to achieve those responsibilities. :/ at work, anyway.

I guess I could learn lots of things by dividing learning tasks up

jol ,

The problem is I imagine sexual harassment at work would skyrocket when all the managers and ICs are my clones.

HopFlop ,

I was thinking something more along the lines of splitting the work equally, then synching memories after and then I have way more free tine (I'd unsplit for that).

blindsight ,

Yeah, I was thinking something like "come home for lunch" and swap roles. Both work half the day, and both get half a day to do a few chores/errands each week and get some downtime to play/learn/explore/tinker. Then divide and conquer in the evening the same way; split parenting time and other-stuff time.

Edit: Also depends if we can freely recombine and split. Merge to eat (most of the time) and sleep (amidst always) to minimize costs, split to do stuff in between.

HopFlop ,

Yeag tgats what I meant with "unsplit". Just do that for work and then unite again for the free time.

Mac ,

I considered that but it still increases costs plus my clone will also have the same hobbies that i already can't afford.

It would definitely be nice to split tasks but I'm just not sure it's worth it.
Unless they are also working which puts us back to square one.

superduperenigma ,

I'm having an orgy with myself for sure.

Gabu ,

Do the copies require existing matter? If not, I'm making infinite clones to explore the cosmos.

Mango ,

2 clones should be good. I can do a lot with 3 of me without complicating much.

sndrtj ,

I think 5 or 6. I'd get to experience living in different cultures without having to abandon friends and family in my current location.

Drusas ,

One. Then I can kill myself and let them deal with it all.

Cinner Bot ,

Then you're still one of the copies and now all copies have post traumatic stress disorder and clone suisyndrome.

Drusas ,

Don't you ruin this for me.

paddirn ,

I’m assuming these copies would also need to eat, sleep, and bathe as well, so there’d be some cost increases as these copies are added into the mix. Just getting extra jobs probably would only go so far before questions started getting asked or somebody noticed, so an army of me working multiple jobs really wouldn’t go well. I’d probably keep it minimal with only one copy, maybe two if I could make it work financially and set up some sort of work rotation so that “I” was only going into work once every few weeks. I might start doing a bunch of freelance design, writing books, gaming and whatever else.

Even better though would be if these were short-term copies that I could just absorb back into myself after a day or whatever and I didn’t have to worry about maintaining their bodies, like Mr. Meeseeks and they just disappear after their task is done. Then I’d just make copies left and right. “Oh shit, I’m out of milk. Copy #3,945,612, go get some milk, thanks.”

cheesymoonshadow ,
@cheesymoonshadow@lemmings.world avatar

If it were me, there's a risk I would gain weight as I just sit at home playing video games and watching TV while my copies did all the work and errands. So each new copy would be slightly chubbier than the last. I would have to make a real effort to stay active, maybe exercise while my copy is out doing stuff, or get into an outdoor sport.

Hestia ,
@Hestia@hexbear.net avatar

I'd say a two hundred to be on the safe side. Have each clone specialize in different skills that would be beneficial in a grand adventure. Have some infiltrate white nationalist groups, government positions, etc. Giving my clones their own identity would be important, so many would need to undergo plastic surgery and build fake identities. I would also have many clones assist with organizing unions and creating revolutionary organizations, though I would tell nobody of the Hestia Legion, as to avoid the eyes of the powers that be.

Have others learn martial arts, visit shooting ranges, chemistry labs, and fab shops to learn how to build tools to further Our aims.

Others, including Hestia Prime, would form a "think tank" of sorts, where we'd take all the information from the hivemind and prepare the revolution.

HobbitFoot ,

Probably one, and I would need to swap the good and the bad parts between us.

tetris11 OP ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

Burdening your bad parts onto a version of yourself won't accomplish much if your memories sync regularly. I think you might need to defeat your demons another way

Kbobabob ,

You only said memories can sync, not that they have to.

HobbitFoot ,

I'm not talking about memories, but duties.

deweydecibel ,

Only if the copies are temporary. If they're actual permanent clones, all I've done is create more issues for myself. They gotta eat, and we can't both work, how we gonna file taxes separately?

tetris11 OP ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

You all have the same SSN, so taxes should be the same unless the gov't can prove you have clones

crawancon ,

3 for security, 3 for family, and 3 for wandering.

we are crawancon

tetris11 OP ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

Why for security?

Death_Equity ,

24 hours in a day means 3x 8 hour shifts on watch. Shit goes down and you can muster up a total of 3 to defend the original who can amass a hoard to zerg rush your enemies with waves of meat.

tetris11 OP ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

I think I meant more "why is security even necessary in your daily life?"

Death_Equity ,

Pay Amazon to farm my data via their doorbell or put a me in a cute security guard outfit that is probably meant for a stripper and give him a stool to watch the block? Easy choice, Velcro short shorts and cheap aviators.

crawancon ,

In this hypothetical situation, I would like to bolster the preservation of both the clones lives and possibly the OG Bio as much as possible. but I don't want to go overboard with a whole empire of me.

i could call it crawancon's council of nine... or perhaps nonet. or just crawanconglomerate.

yeah , fun at parties over here.

RadicalEagle ,

Being able to clone myself and sync with my clones is something I've thought about since I was a kid.

I don't think increasing the number of clones would ever allow me to satisfy all my wishes. The number of things I want to do increases with the number of experiences I have in a non-linear way. If I want to be satisfied I need to be willing to accept all of my wishes will never be fulfilled.

To answer your question specifically: 0 clones

tetris11 OP ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

Nice answer!

You see an exponential curve of interest, instead of an S-shaped curve? Your interests would likely develop rapidly at first yes, but even that will get boring with time and you might plateau at a small community of yourself with dwindling interests, slowly creeping back into single digits, and then finally yourself.

It wouldn't all be for nothing though, you would still have all the fruits and experiences of their/your labour.

RadicalEagle ,

The curve could definitely be S shaped, but it's hard to say.

I think that I would be really unhappy/bored in a world where I got to experience "everything" I wanted to do. In fact, just the idea of not having to make any trade offs/compromises is incredibly paralyzing to think about right now lol

If the clones don't allow me to live forever, eventually dying would be the most interesting thing for me to do because it would be the only "new" thing left to experience in my lifetime.

tetris11 OP ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

Again, great answer! I leave you with this great book:

https://www.gregegan.net/PERMUTATION/Permutation.html

RadicalEagle ,

Holy crap two fun back and forths leads to a book recommendation, today has been a great day. Thank you!

FlashZordon ,
@FlashZordon@lemmy.world avatar

2 copies. One for work. One for Personal life. One for spare parts.

But if they have individualism then I will assume a fight will eventually break out.

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