orgrinrt ,

I would actually take a very different route as a contrast to others on this thread:

I would clone some 20-30 mes and do a speedrun together to gather enough funds to buy a farm, and live out the rest of my life in a commune dream with others like me 🥹

Eventually there’d be other people joining in and I could release more and more of the clones as we gather enough saved up and finish the mortgage and all.

So eventually we’d find something of a balance at around 2-4 clones with which we’d just arrange a rotating system of guaranteeing 3 weeks of free time each between a week of work 😌

CaptPretentious ,

Two clones, else it's going to start getting crowded here I think.

One of us works full time. One of us studies full time. The third would be entertainment (go see a movie, go to events, etc.). Every week, we rotate.

BluesF ,

I'm not sure my income can support a full time student and full time layabout lol

ripcord ,
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If you're only working and studying 1/3 of the time how does each copy keep up with stuff at work and especially in the studies?

BambiDiego ,

When they re-merge each week they share memories

StellarTabi ,
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My biggest cost is rent, we can all sleep in a big-ass ratking, boys love threesomes without the trouble of figuring out who the third will be, AFAIK food costs scale in my favor if I got a second job and a third me for hobbies. We could claim to be twins but also rotate who's running the of and faking vacation etc, produce higher quality content more often and charge more for it. and 4-100 mees for dumpster-diving/terrorism. Are there limits? Are the copies permanent? I'd like to replace the government of my country and the power seems OP as I could just copy up and annex everything in cartoonishly massive human waves.

tetris11 OP ,
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You can reclaim your copies and spawn more whenever you want.

I know you want to enact change in your lief, but isn't overthrowing the gov't a bit extreme? You have to remember that a good number of fascists voted for the status quo, and so will oppose you even more if you take the country by storm.

Why not enact change locally in your community first, and then see if people like what you're doing, and if so, try to spread that change, and essentially undermine the gov't and their fascist voters by showing them an easy alternative, and eventually shame them into doing the right thing, all without a single drop of blood.

StellarTabi ,
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Why not enact change locally in your community first

Then the government knows what I look like and will be able to plan around my existence. Most national security policies assume cartoonishly massive human waves coming out of nowhere are not possible. The element of surprise and the rush attack is key to victory. Revealing that I have this power without conquering the planet ensures instead that I get kidnapped and get experimented with in a secret bunker.

tetris11 OP ,
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I agree, but then how are you not the same as the Jan 6 rioters?

StellarTabi ,
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i have good politics

tetris11 OP ,
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that's what they believed too

ShimmeringKoi ,
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Yes, but they were wrong

JohnBrownNote ,

the american revolution was illegal. sedition and insurrection are as good as the relative politics of the belligerents.

fascism is bad, capital slowly capitulating to fascists is bad, a proletarian revolution would be good.

SSJ2Marx ,
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I live near a few military bases, so enough to overrun the guardhouses and evict all the troops currently inside. I would need like 100,000 clones (one of the bases is pretty big).

Does the power clone any equipment I'm carrying? If yes then I can get a single military uniform and a box of ammo before I start - if not the initial attack will have to be a human wave that captures an armory at least.

Once I'm rolling I will unironically do the "enemy at the gates" thing by having twice as many clones as I have rifles. If the man in front of you dies, clone yourself and pick up his weapon!

ShaggySnacks ,

Everyone keeps tell me to go fuck myself. Inonly need the one copy to live out that wish.

xmunk ,

You really need to work on your creativity - three, maybe four, copies would be much more fun.

AgentGrimstone ,

Just one. Cutting my work and responsibilities in half would be a significant improvement in my quality of life.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT ,

Would you be able to live with yourself?

AgentGrimstone ,

I've had worse roommates. I can make it work.

ciapatri ,

Not to mention having things done precisely the way I like. Reminds me of the black mirror "White Christmas" episode where they were creating digital clones to act as personal assistants.

DeltaTangoLima ,
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Ah, Multiplicity. An underrated Michael Keaton comedy, IMO.

kaitco ,

You know that episode of Futurama, where Bender made near infinite copies of himself and nearly the destroyed the world?

Yeah that, but maybe a little slowly since I like to procrastinate.

tsonfeir ,
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Just one. I’d get twice as much software written, and amazing blowjobs.

However….. I’d need to make sure that They have a desire to obey me. Because I don’t do anything I don’t want to do, and I’d very quickly tell “me” to go fuck myself.

lettruthout ,

There's an interesting book that goes into these issues...

Kiln People is a 2002 science fiction novel by American writer David Brin

The novel takes place in a future in which people can create clay duplicates (called "dittos" or golems) of themselves. A ditto retains all of the archetype's memories up until the time of duplication. The duplicate lasts only about a day, and the original person (referred to in the book as an archie, from "archetype", or "rig", from "original") can then choose whether or not to upload the ditto's memories. Most dittos want to inload, so that their experience will be continuous with that of their archie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiln_People

My wife and I joke about how we could really use a "grey" some days.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT ,

Damn that sounds like a fun read.

Kissaki ,

None. I don't think clones could satisfy my wishes. And I wouldn't want to burden them with a life.

tetris11 OP ,
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JoMiran ,

Oh good. I was starting to think I was the only Eeyore in here.

Son_of_dad ,

Just the one, we'd both sit around doing nothing. Get him to give me a hand job, it's not gay if it's you right?

tetris11 OP ,
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TacoButtPlug ,
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I'd be less concerned with gay and more concerned with doing your immediate family...

neidu2 ,

I have enough problems managing myself.
I don't see any advantages to doubling the workload.

tetris11 OP ,
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Would you be able to manage yourself better if you could hold up a mirror to yourself? Maybe by having a clone judge you, as you judge yourself now, you might be more prone to change?

neidu2 , (edited )

Nah, I'm getting old and crusty, I don't change easily without kicking and screaming. Plus I'd probably be annoyed as hell by my other self. I have my flaws, but I've learned to live with them - I just don't want those flaws to have twice the amplitude.

essellburns ,

Two would be ideal.

Three would have greater benefits, greater complexity and problems.

tetris11 OP ,
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Assume you could sync your memories after each day. What would you do with them?

essellburns ,

One would go to work, the other would be a house-husband.

I love my work, just don't have enough time to stay home, keep the place clean and tidy, read my books, visit places and chill!

agamemnonymous ,
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Thrella ,

What are the limitations here? Like... can I boss the clones around, or will they need to be coaxed?

Because if I can get a clone army you bet your ass I'm getting a clone army.

tetris11 OP ,
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Coaxed in the same way you convince yourself to get up in the morning

Death_Equity ,

So we sleep in a pile like hamsters and accomplish just about as much as a pile of hamsters.

Are hamsters depressed? Has anyone checked to see if hamsters are ok? I am worried about hamsters, they deserve to be happy.

tetris11 OP ,
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You must have some floor space, or a sofa, or a friend to crash at, and even you must be reasonable enough with yourself to have a sleeping location rota that you can (all) agree on

Death_Equity ,

Nope. All in a pile like hamsters.

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