iiGxC

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iiGxC ,

Yeah only idiots have compassion for their fellow sentient beings. On the iq test they actually have a question "Are you vegan?" and if you answer yes then they automatically give you an iq of 12 (to represent the b12 deficiency you have).

Smart people know animal abuse is rad and cool, that's why they only eat meat and watch dog fights on the weekend. We're just not smart enough to understand why it's ok like they do

iiGxC ,

I think I found it on reddit linking to a post 😂 it's going fine, most of my relationships tend to be friends with benefits or monogamous tho. Usually people are fine with/interested in the ideas of it, but still want monogamy, and if I like them enough then I just roll with it cause it's not like I have time for many relationships anyways

iiGxC ,

Is there any evidence of them being a honeypot? It sounds like that claim was made by someone under trial who might be trying to take the heat off themselves

iiGxC ,

They have some of this in some of the club scenes in the what we do in the shadows tv show (i don't remember if it was in the movie too)

iiGxC ,

If you try mushrooms (mdma too, but it's not as risky afaik) please please please make sure to have trusted friend/trip sitter with you. It's extremely rare, but truly bad trips that leave real psychological damage can happen, and having a friend or someone you trust to help you through it can be the difference between life and death, or serious harm vs not. It's an extremely powerful compound that can bring tremendous healing, and the majority of the time it does, and even when it's difficult there's almost always a lesson or something to be learned if you embrace and explore the difficulty with love, but it does deserve respect and to say "they're not dangerous in any significant way" is not entirely true. For most people most of the time it is true, but that .01% of the time it's not it can be very bad, and like I said having a trusted, sober friend help you through can make all the difference.

iiGxC ,

The end of animal agriculture is long overdue

iiGxC ,

Animal agriculture is normalized animal abuse and needs to end

iiGxC ,

Oppressors are rarely happy to be told to stop oppressing 🤷

iiGxC ,

animal agriculture is normalized animal abuse, there's tons of amazing vegan cheeses tho!

iiGxC , (edited )

That's true, and not even just hateful. There are plenty of ideologies that just plain refuse to recognize the victims as victims. They're not filled with hate, they're filled with total indifference

iiGxC ,

And this is why speciesism is a root cause of so much human-on-human oppression. People unquestionably accept the premise that it's ok to exploit/murder/etc non-human sentient beings, so dehumanizing certain groups is incredibly effective at getting people to be ok with abusing them. If we rejected non-human abuse as well, there would be no incentive to dehumanize each other

iiGxC ,

it depends how and why they're devaluing the other human. If they're basing it on dehumanization in order to exploit/abuse them, then that is in fact built on the underlying assumption that nonhumans are fair game to exploit/abuse, although they are also factually incorrect about the other humans humanity.

Strategically, it might be easier to get them to recognize that fact, or it might be easier to get them to accept compassion for all sentient beings and then point out the logical conclusions of that, it really depends on the person and situation, but I'm not talking strategy I'm just pointing out an often-unspoken root problem

iiGxC ,

Malice and disrespect would still be incentives, but how would it be profitable to dehumanize other humans if it didn't grant you any ability to exploit them more than you could exploit a "humanized human"? What reason would religion have (not that they'd need one to just make it up 🙄) to dehumanize other humans if it didn't imply your religious group is more valuable than the dehumanized humans (besides malice and disrespect)?

iiGxC ,

I would argue that falls under malice and disrespect

iiGxC ,

Aunty donna on netflix and youtube

more youtube ones:

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  • sven johnson
iiGxC ,

I don't understand where the bug meat narrative is coming from, besides that it's gross so it's easy to use to incite fear and disgust any time imitation meat is brought up, when in reality it's usually soy or vital wheat gluten based.

I'm against all animal exploitation, including bugs!

iiGxC ,

Intelligence isn't a good marker of moral value anyways 🤷

iiGxC ,

see you on vegancirclejerk 😏

iiGxC ,

make sure to drive a lot and eat animal products and fly places so we can keep the streak going! 💪😎🔥

iiGxC ,

Chickens and turkeys are super smart and friendly. I've met a few turkeys rescued from turkey farms and they try to preen you as a sign of affection 😊

even if they weren't smart or nice, their lives are not ours to take, regardless of how much you like the taste of their flesh

iiGxC ,

Holocaust survivors like Edgar Kupfer-Koberwitz and Alex Hershaft have been trying to point it out but most people don't listen https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_analogy_in_animal_rights

iiGxC ,

Animal rights/sentientism/antispeciesism are the logical next step for leftist/progressive/compassionate ideologies, 196 tends to attract mostly leftist/etc folks, so it makes sense

iiGxC ,

Well said. People like you make me wish I could follow users on lemmy

iiGxC ,

I've saved your comment, if I'm going through my saved stuff hopefully I'll remember to look at your stuff again and chime in 🤞😊 in the meantime, keep it up!

iiGxC ,

Close, but still not quite the real issue! That part is a crime, but only a misdemeanor, and it's usually not even pursued. The reason it's being pursued in this case and he's now a felon is because it's a felony to try to influence an election by committing a crime, and so trump trying to cover up the affair by committing a crime so he'd be more likely to win the election, is the key ingredient that makes it this significant.

iiGxC , (edited )

Is there a bible verse backing that up? First thing that comes to mind is "sell all you have and give to the poor" but not sure if there are others

iiGxC ,

I also wouldn't have read it without your comment, but it was absolutely worth it

iiGxC ,

Hedgehog, obviously. Though they didn't know it then, the boar vessel etruscan ceramic represents dr. eggman

iiGxC ,

https://dissentient.substack.com/p/eugenicist "You're probably a eugenicist"

are there super fucked up things that deserve all the hate that fall under eugenics? Yes.

are there also pretty rational and reasonable things that fall under eugenics, like not having kids with your sibling? Also yes.

iiGxC ,

Yeah but you can still pursue other goals. Help a charity or work on an important project with people and the meaning is there. It's just not forced on you as part of surviving anymore

iiGxC ,

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9860667/ The Impact of Vegan Diets on Indicators of Health in Dogs and Cats: A Systematic Review (2023)

"However, there is little evidence of adverse effects arising in dogs and cats on vegan diets. In addition, some of the evidence on adverse health impacts is contradicted in other studies. Additionally, there is some evidence of benefits, particularly arising from guardians’ perceptions of the diets. Given the lack of large population-based studies, a cautious approach is recommended. If guardians wish to implement a vegan diet, it is recommended that commercial foods are used."

iiGxC ,

So you're against all kibble, vegan or not?

iiGxC ,

Well in that case we're on the same page

iiGxC ,

I'll mind my business when you stop unnecessarily hurting innocent animals 🤷 I'm not trying to come across as morally superior, I'm trying to get people like you to recognize that hurting animals for pleasure is wrong and that it's time to stop doing that

iiGxC ,

If only I had enough b12 and protein, maybe then I could tell for sure if it was ironic 😩

iiGxC ,

Fuck, my last reserves ran out a few years ago shortly after going vegan 😵‍💫

iiGxC ,

Carnists when they see how fucked their logic is when it's laid out plainly: downvote

iiGxC ,

Well the second argument is true, it's just that being gay isn't unethical. But talk to them about veganism and all of a sudden we can eat insane amounts of dead animals cause lions eat other animals too?

iiGxC ,

It's in part an issue of consent. The animals can't consent to what's being done to them, so to force testing on them is fucked up.

The alternative is voluntary human testing. In an ideal world, we would have good models and simulations to filter out the riskiest drugs (these kinds of models aren't being prioritized in part because people are fine with animal abuse), and then people would volunteer to be parts of trials.

In our current world, we could pay people to take part in trials. We already do this at least in the US, but usually after initial rounds of animal testing. So increase the payout dramatically for the initial rounds which are much riskier. We already pay people to do other forms of risky jobs, why should this be different?

You know who else can help test cancer treatments? Humans with cancer who want to try them.

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