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So weird that no one mentioned https://micro.blog/
Which only after Mastodon was the second platform to adopt ActivityPub.

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This makes me think of Fediverse client SoraSns. It used on-device ML and has algorithmic choice. It’s awesome that everything is done on-device

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Not at all.

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Why would that matter?

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Several of you seem to be misunderstanding. When he says “like Twitter” it’s not in the negative ways you are thinking. It’s in the negative ways he’s thinking. Meaning censorship and being able to ban accounts. He doesn’t want that. Mastodon would have the same criticisms if he commented on it.

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Seems like it would be good to request Discourse and NodeBB to offer similar features

Reddit mirrors

I know it’s not popular and I’m typically against it but I was listening to a podcast and it made me think there are absolutely important communities that shouldn’t be on a centralised platform like Reddit. The contents of them are so important that it should be on the Open Social Web. I’m wondering if there is someone...

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Did you do it yet ?

Are there any innovative platforms in the Fediverse?

I've explored a few platforms within the Fediverse, but most of them seem to be inspired by and mimic existing mainstream social media platforms like Twitter, Reddit, and Facebook. While this familiarity can be comforting, I can't help but wonder if there are any truly innovative and original platforms out there that offer a...

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I’d be very interested in this

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Not really. You can utilise a Mastodon client that allows you to subscribe to remote instances. Another option is to utilise a relay and subscribe to an instance

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They are federating since February

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I don’t understand. What data do you mean for an instance?

The need for a Fedi Union.

tl;dr I propose a Fedi Union consisting of the developers of Phanpy, Pixelfed, Peertube, Lemmy, and PieFed. That will work as a way to fund all of the services collectively (with the option to still go to their individual patreons and fund them seperately) and as a way for them to communicate to help all the services be more...

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Why is it a nuisance for some? They could defederate from Mastodon.social and Mastodon.online. This place is supposed to be about freedom & choice. People can use different software, move to a different instance so I’m confused at the hostility toward Eugen.

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Interesting to see your comment about Mastodon EEE ActivityPub. I would love to know more about your thoughts. It’s funny to see people worried about Threads making breaking changes yet Mastodon has done it from the beginning. Look at recently with the quote post situation, Misskey has had them forever, Threads used Misskey implementation and an FEP, Mastodon announced yesterday they got a grant for quote posts. They are doing their own thing yet again

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Good suggestions. Also, Sora is good because the ML is local

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People are actually on BlueSky

There's now a decent measurement of user numbers (https://bskycharts.edavis.dev/edavis.dev/bskycharts.edavis.dev/bsky_users_total.html) ...

They've got about 1.6M MAUs ...
& 0.8M Weekly unique users & 0.340M Daily.

That's not nothing!

Roughly double mastodon and 60% more than the whole fediverse (by MAUs, see fedidb.org).

Bluesky is quite "international" with large Japanese and Brazilian popltns, and there's real attrition happening IMO.

Still, let the protocol wars begin I suppose?

@fediverse

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Your knowledge is wrong. They opened up federation in February. There’s currently people from fedi that have Atproto PDS

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The Fediverse will grow. Especially, with Threads joining and potentially Tumblr and Post.news. You’re right that the Fediverse we know will disappear. I believe there will and needs to be a great schism. You have strong actions of Lemmy and Mastodon that are anti Threads and anti growth, let’s call them small fedi. Then you have those that will federate with Threads and want the Open Social Web to become the major focus and how most people engage socially online, big fedi. You already have a culture with a lot of infighting and some fundamental incompatibilities, it will only get stronger. It’s best to separate now.

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ActivityPub is not garbage, it’s just missing important aspects. Atproto is good that users get a global view, identity isn’t tethered to a PDS, custom feeds and not at the whims of an admin that can sever any relationships they have or that can delete their account.

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People would run their own PDS for a couple of reasons, build their own communities, host their own data, their own moderation practices & policies, and maybe they don’t want the “big world” view

https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/22/bluesky-opens-up-federation-letting-anyone-run-their-own-server/amp/

https://bsky.social/about/blog/02-22-2024-open-social-web

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It is actively developed. Some forks are Firefish, Foundkey, Sharkey, IceShrimp

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Very valid points. Medium and Substack will remain popular due to how easy it makes it

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Yes, why would they not?

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Really enjoyed your blogpost. Would love to connect with you. This framework utilises C2S spec and resolves some of the issues with the spec https://github.com/assemblee-virtuelle/activitypods

https://activitypods.org/

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Curious as to why your comment got downvoted. Are people saying dictatorships aren’t bad?

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You mean the same illusion of decentralisation that the fedi offers? Where AP is largely mastodon centric and identity is tethered to an instance? Where a user is at the whims of an admin? With the networks being so small those admins have more of an impact on everyday users than Musk.
They’re not hand waving moderation. They have a Trust and Safety team, third party, custom feeds, all of the same user level controls any social platform has and goes above that with their labelling system. Especially, when it comes to illegal content they’re in better position to protect their teams and users than fedi, which directly exposes admins/mods to harm and has no resources to help their mental health.
You called others indoctrinated but that’s how you come across and spewing fallacies

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My take is that they wanted to do things differently after extensive research. People here get their panties in a bunch but they talked about why, it’s as much culturally as it was technically.
They wanted to mirror a more web like experience and some of the experiences mirrored on Big Social platforms. It makes sense to not tether user identities to instances, that’s not real freedom, especially when data portability is poor and there’s not true account migration on fedi.
Fedi doesn’t really empower the individual and many people are oddly critical of Bluesky individualism, yet that’s how the dominant online experience is and more so mirrors real life. People come from Big Social platforms that are driven by their individual experiences so their transition to Bluesky is more natural than it would be on Mastodon. In neither place do you have people telling people how to use their own damn accounts! But, that happens on Mastodon
Overall, they have some cool ideas and concepts, I’m happy to see any ideas and spaces that lessen the strong armed centralised grip of Big Social.

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The Fediverse was created for connectivity and relationships that are yours not being owned by Big Social. It wasn’t created as some privacy preserving and secure platform, people on Mastodon have pushed that but the spec is not fundamentally built on those things nor have any of the founders of the fedi ever really pushed that.

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Provide proof! I call BS. I see why more anti-Meta posts and pushing it on people. Anywhere here can search and you’ll find it. It dominates any conversations about Meta

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That doesn’t make much sense, doing their own thing is a centralized way of thinking ? Like people had to build ActivityPub. Also, she explained the cultural aspect of why they didn’t. They got paid to research and do work for a protocol and platform people would use. They heavily looked into AP and felt it didn’t suit their needs especially culturally . Also, just out of some weird principle people hate Jack Dorsey and since he’s associated would’ve not used Bluesky, they didn’t get paid to build things people wouldn’t use. Technology filled with standards and protocols of people “reinventing the wheel” sometimes for really trivial issues they had with some tech.

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You have all of the answers. I look forward to the Threadiverse conference you put together

dameoutlaw ,
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There’s a lot of misinformation in your post. There’s not single pod provider. It does what it states it does. A platform/client needs to build on top of it. It doesn’t hurt to ask questions. It also doesn’t hurt to state that you don’t understand as opposed to making matter of fact statements and be wrong.

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You don’t need to be qualified but also not a need to spread false information. That’s weird and Twitter behaviour. You could’ve asked questions. You could’ve said “ I may be wrong…” The project is new. There is a single provider due to that reason alone. Once adopted there will be more providers.

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What relevance does this have to the Fediverse?

Legal Liabilities

If you are an admin and or instance operator are you protecting yourself legally? A great deal of people have simply spun up instances and treat them like Discord servers and subreddits, but Discord and Reddit are the ones that assume legal liability. Here are some good reads to assist by lawyers and experts that are on the fedi...

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That’s your opinion but both reports are by lawyers and orgs that have a presence on the fediverse be it accounts and or hosting their own instances. I’m sure they’re aware of what they’re talking about.

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Use this for starters https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/12/user-generated-content-and-fediverse-legal-primer

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That’s old data. Threads suffered for a month but was fine. This is more recent. 141 million MAU https://famewall.io/statistics/threads-stats/

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That’s where my frustrations with “consent fedi” come into play. They want to force people to comply with their views. They could go into allow list federation and connect with those that views thing similarly yet they don’t.

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How would that work?

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It’s smart to offload the legally tricky parts. Versus here those fall onto admins

dameoutlaw OP ,
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Well, it could launch on one platform first, doesn’t mean it’s only going to be for one platform.

dameoutlaw OP ,
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lol I respect the transparency

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I agree with one of the other commenters. There’s communities here that allow and are for AI art. I think it’s fine to now allow it here.

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This asks zero sense as there’s n disclosure on hardly any instance. Also, there’s several non ActivityPub protocols and bridges that have long since been used and peoples content shared

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Mastodon and many others do not “properly” implement ActivityPub and have a ton of their own extensions and implementations

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Not true. You’re pushing content to Diaspora, hubzilla, PubCrawl, Streams and many other protocols that are bridged to ActivityPub

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