GottaLaff ,
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Sigh.

Via Sahil Kapur:

🚨 Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas, calls on Biden to WITHDRAW from the 2024 election. "Too much is at stake to risk a Trump victory," he says. "President Biden saved our democracy by delivering us from Trump in 2020. He must not deliver us to Trump in 2024."

rberger ,
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@GottaLaff The “media” has a lot to be blamed for. I watched CBS News post Biden’s statement on the SCOTUS ruling. They spent a minute on what he said, and then went on to question Biden’s age / ability and repeating over and over that he was using a teleprompter. Completely ignoring the fact that the Supreme Court just overturned democracy. Its journalism malpractice and supporting fascism.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@rberger 1 million percent that.

KenDisbrow ,
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@GottaLaff You know this whole “Abandon Biden” thing reeks of a disinformation campaign designed to sow FUD among Ds. Kind of like “but her emails”.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@KenDisbrow BINGO

Eetschrijver ,
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@GottaLaff It's precisely because 'too much is at stake to risk a Trump victory' that Rep. Lloyd Doggett should have kept his stupid mouth shut. 😡

GottaLaff OP ,
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timo21 ,
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@GottaLaff Apparently some people have fallen right back into the 'Trump Amnesia' state of mind. I guess spanky didn't scare Rep. Doggett enough at the debate. That's some sense of entitlement, not being petrified of Trump back in office.

theogrin ,
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@GottaLaff

Have these people even cracked open a history book? Hell, were these people even paying attention? Doggett should at least know what happened when Lyndon B. Johnson resigned, even if he was 15 years old when that happened. (Admittedly, the age of 15 does not lend a crystal clarity to current affairs.)

PJ_Evans ,
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@theogrin @GottaLaff
When did Johnson resign? In my memory, he was president until 1968.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@PJ_Evans He didn't. @theogrin

ralfmaximus ,
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@GottaLaff @PJ_Evans @theogrin

Indeed. LBJ served until Nixon's inauguration, January 20th 1969.

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GottaLaff OP ,
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@aliza 🎯

mentallyalex ,
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@GottaLaff whenever they speak out like that, I am curious to see what their financials look like.

He should know better. If he doesn't, that is inexcusable.

philip_cardella ,
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@GottaLaff did he suggest who would replace him that can beat Trump?

GottaLaff OP ,
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@philip_cardella Let's not get crazy here, lol

lawyersgunsnmoney ,
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@GottaLaff DNC should yank his $

GottaLaff OP ,
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@lawyersgunsnmoney They probably paid him to say it

lawyersgunsnmoney ,
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@GottaLaff Yeah I’d believe anything at this point

tdwllms1 ,
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@GottaLaff

Lloyd Alton Doggett II
October 6, 1946 (age 77)

gonna be 78 this year... maybe he should instead...

GottaLaff OP ,
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@tdwllms1 Works for me

Softwaremerc ,
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@GottaLaff Feel free to call Congressman Doggett’s office. The number for the Austin office is 512-916-5921. The DC office number is 202-225-4865. The numbers are from his congressional website doggett.house.gov.

PJ_Evans ,
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@GottaLaff
I looked him up. 77 years old and in Congress since 1995. I'd say he needs to retire.

MisuseCase ,
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@GottaLaff He and James Carville - both old white men, and Carville in particular stuck in the 90s - are calling on Biden to step down.

Based on some things I’ve read the whole purpose of this is to replace him with someone like Gavin Newsom, who can’t use campaign funds as easily and will govern in a more right-wing way if he wins.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@MisuseCase It's so unrealistic. He has no funding, has to start from scratch, has minimal name recognition, I could go on. He also said he wouldn't run. All of this is making me nuts.

OrionKidder ,
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@GottaLaff JFC. It's TOO LATE to replace him. That opportunity has passed. It's so sad how much of a panic everyone is in.

Democrats don't seem to know how to put their heads down and organize.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@OrionKidder Thank you.

zachvat ,
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@GottaLaff

Apparently, headlines are important to this guy.

With so, so many nutters about, Democracy is becoming increasingly hard.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@zachvat No shit.

SocialistJoe ,
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@GottaLaff

Sigh, indeed.

This whole discussion among elites is just so dumb.

Five minutes of research will show anyone bothering to look that Biden withdrawing in favor of anyone but Harris at this point simply isn't viable, and that even dropping out in favor of Harris is likely to end in chaos on the D side and victory on the R side.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@SocialistJoe EXACTLY. Plus a woman? A Black woman? Iffy at this point. Sigh.

cynblogger ,
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@GottaLaff
Partial email from Biden’s campaign (I donated again last weekend):

“Folks, over 1.5 million donors like you contributed more than $264 million to this campaign last quarter. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I’m told that $38 million of that fundraising came in the four days directly following my debate against Donald Trump -- and a whopping $30 million of that came in the form of grassroots donations from people like you. I am sharing these fundraising numbers with you because they’re much more than just that.

They’re proof that what we're building together is bigger than me. It’s bigger than Kamala. It’s bigger than any one of us. You’re not just seeing it in the grassroots money we’re raising, you can feel it in the energy on the ground.

Last week, our campaign hosted nearly 4,000 grassroots events across the country -- and nearly 10,000 new volunteers took action with us! And we just kept going. After the debate, our volunteer sign up rate in battleground states increased 3x.”

chemoelectric ,
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@GottaLaff They always exist, because they really are the jackasses that symbolize them.

RuamiGrey ,
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@GottaLaff

Has Lloyd considered that too much is at stake for him to be running his mouth in this highly unproductive way? GOP and Putin send their thanks.

Bellison22 ,
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@GottaLaff I won't propagate the age and excitement trend.
The man is a hardworking, results producing, economy boosting, global uniting leader. He doesn't need apologist behavior, he needs 4 more years to finally end the trump carnage

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Bellison22 1000000%

Bellison22 ,
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@GottaLaff fk that idiot

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Bellison22 What you said.

Bellison22 ,
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@GottaLaff 💙💙💙

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Beachbum ,
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@GottaLaff I will not listen to defectors. I am 100% Biden 2024.

GGMcBG ,
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@GottaLaff

So the party splits a few months out and we get to focus on D or D+ while everything else just keeps gettin' done to-plan by Nazis who can't believe their luck in how easy it's been to take over a country by just giving us each a cell phone and using the Constitution against the Constitution.
Solid.

GottaLaff OP ,
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2/ 🧵Via a well-connected Dem I know: 1/...

Nevada does not allow a candidate to be replaced after the 4th Friday of June. So there goes all votes out the window for Biden should he be replaced. No votes for Biden in Nevada would be counted towards the next candidate.

More...

GottaLaff OP ,
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3/ Georgia allows a candidate to withdraw from the ballot 60 days prior to the election. However, no new candidate can then be placed on the ballot and all votes for the withdrawn candidate will not be counted towards a new candidate.

Wisconsin only allows for death to remove a candidate from the ballot.

More...

GottaLaff OP ,
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4/ Then we have a plethora of states with NO laws regarding a presidential candidate removing themselves from the ballot and allowing another candidate to be placed on the ballot. You just know there are already a legion of rightwing lawyers ready to pounce into such disputes.

End.

Danetteb ,
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@GottaLaff and Trump wins because Democrats were stupid.

Beachbum ,
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@Danetteb @GottaLaff Why do y’all think Trump is gonna win. Get out and vote and make sure he doesn’t. We have the popular vote. We just have to assure the swing state delegates are in place.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Beachbum @Danetteb Where did I EVER say I thought Trump would win??

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Beachbum @Danetteb Oh sorry, I missed that toot you replied to.

jcrossonhill ,
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@GottaLaff And a SCOTUS more than willing to decide those in disputes in Trump's favour.

GottaLaff OP ,
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jcrossonhill ,
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@GottaLaff Also, the media drumbeat about Biden withdrawing makes me wonder which adversary of the US is amplifying that message. We know that Russia amplified divisionary messages about Bernie vs Hilary in 2016 to help Trump win. We've got to stick together and stick with our current nominee.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@jcrossonhill Dem operatives for one. And of course, Russia/China.

absinthe ,
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@GottaLaff
Add in that convenient 2 day soiree amongst trump, putin, uae jets...
@jcrossonhill

MisuseCase ,
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@GottaLaff @jcrossonhill I think that the prospects for Biden winning and Trump losing actually look better than they did a few months or weeks ago and the people pushing for this really want either a Trump win or a Dem president who will be more pro-business, anti-labor, etc.

darwinwoodka ,
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GottaLaff OP ,
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@darwinwoodka Nearly synonymous, but yep. @jcrossonhill

lakelady ,

@GottaLaff I did a bit of digging around (ballotpedia) and it looks like a bunch of this is probably inaccurate

jlundell ,
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@lakelady @GottaLaff Also complicated by the mechanics of presidential elections (voting for EC electors pledged to a candidate, not candidates themselves). Presumably Biden-pledged electors could vote for the actual party nominee, if not Biden.

GottaLaff OP ,
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lakelady ,

@GottaLaff what does this piece have to do with the info you shared about the problems with changing who is on the ballot (Nevada, Wisconsin etc.) I'm not suggesting that we do this either.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@lakelady If I recall, Lawrence touched on the difficulties of putting a new candidate on the ballots. It was to augment the convo.

lakelady ,

@GottaLaff yes and I agree. What I was referring to was a series of your posts that started with "2/ 🧵Via a well-connected Dem I know: 1/... "

that appears to be incorrect info. That is all.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@lakelady Oh, got it. I was sharing that to drive home the point that it's exceedingly difficult and not too wise to try to get someone else on the ballot now.

jlundell ,
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@GottaLaff @lakelady

The only plausible answer I’ve heard to this question is Dan Drezner’s suggestion that Biden resign the presidency now, making Harris president. Done with the support of Democratic governors and congressional leaders, and Biden’s full cooperation, it could end up being energizing. Radical, sure. (Read the piece for yourself; I don’t want to be its defender here.)

PJ_Evans ,
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@GottaLaff
I've seen stories that Heritage has lawyers already winding up for that.

Aviva_Gary ,
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@GottaLaff Quick question: Why do these same people think the Court who just gave themselves/Pres unlimited powers will not take advantage of such a thing/circumstance? ^🤔

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Aviva_Gary Right??

EricFielding ,
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@GottaLaff Thanks for the information on the state laws. I don’t understand how they can have such early deadlines in Nevada. There have been years where the final candidate selections are not certain until the Democratic or Republican conventions.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@EricFielding Not sure how accurate they were, but that was the feedback.

Beachbum ,
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@GottaLaff I am not going to read or listen to anymore of this BS. #Biden2024 or Project 2025, take your pick.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Beachbum This isn't BS. This is telling us that trying to run a new candidate won't work. This is validating what you're saying.

TammyGentzel ,
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@GottaLaff I’m surprised states lock down the presumed candidate prior to the party’s convention. State primary elections are much like the general election: people are voting for delegates who are charged with representing a candidate at the convention. Party rules allow the delegates to switch to a different candidate if circumstances warrant it. I wonder if Nevada has done away with the delegate system and requires their delegates to stand pat?

Beachbum ,
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@GottaLaff I guess doesn’t understand that because he’s out spouting the same thing dog man is. We can’t win if we’re not on the ballot in every state. is 77. Is he going to drop out of the race? I think if he can’t be a good Democrat and stick by our other candidates that he should drop out.

Beachbum ,
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@GottaLaff The way I feel about it is if Biden wins and something awful happens then Kamala Harris would take over and appoint a really good vice president so what is the big effing deal? Stick with the winners!

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Beachbum Agree.

absinthe ,
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@GottaLaff
Ugh, ... one would hope a professional would be better advised than to suggest such tripe.

It makes one believe his motives to be rather suspect...

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