@GottaLaff Kolektiva has a bunch of really weird cultural shit going on in their server. All of the cool anarchists I know moved over to jorts for a reason.
The media is a psyop designed to encourage doomspiraling and anxiety.
Folks need to ignore the noise and stay on target. Stop the outright goddam fascist and then we can get to work on the center-right.
@GottaLaff silent lurker who you've helped understand all this. Remember Biden is and has smart people that have been anticipating worse case. I'd like to hope there is a plan for this already thought out. The immunity goes both ways. For now
If violence is the answer, allow me to ask, why did everyone get so upset about January 6 2021? In fact, Charlottesville, Oklahoma City Murrah Building, etc., etc.
Anger is fine, and frustration is fine... but put the energies that build along with those emotions to beneficial use. VOTE-VOTE-VOTE, state & federal elections, the vote is your cudgel.
Sorry that you are getting that crap too. I think we all are getting some flack but you probably are targeted more because you do very good coverage of the days events every day.
Have a good evening and thanks for all you do for the community :blobcatheart:
@GottaLaff Thank you, Laffy. I'm scared and worried, but you always have something to say that keeps my feet at least toetip on the ground!
I don't want violence (though I do agree with MLK about the voice of the unheard) -- but what I don't understand is why we aren't taking to the streets in peaceful protest nationwide. I guess somebody has to start it and lead it. But who is that person? Who are those people? Am I naive for thinking such a protest would effect any kind of beneficial change?
@GottaLaff I for one am also a big proponent of rationality. Thank you, and hang in there. Imma go grab a little bourbon to sip for the moment, and we can have a toast 🍻
2/ Amazing that people are reading the above and don’t understand the difference between my distaste for violence and irrational attacks on voting …and censorship? What’s hard about this? Violence is not the answer, voting is our only option now. This was just made clear by Weissmann, Biden, others.
But sure, misread my toot and get nasty. That’s real helpful. 🤦🏻♀️
@GottaLaff
Hang in there. Some people are trying to process this as they are panicking and blowing off steam, some are Russian trolls, and some simply have a strange taste for violence.
I am letting the first group rant, and blocking the rest. (checking the profile often helps me decide
Hopefully tomorrow cooler heads will prevail.
Have a good night and rest as well as is possible. Hugs your loved ones.
@Snowshadow@GottaLaff I ask this in all seriousness. I’m a granola crunching, attachment parenting, unschooling, mama and grandmother. My kids are ages 31-41. My daughters and granddaughter have fewer rights than I did. Is there ever a time when violence becomes part of the solution to our situation? Do we watch journalist be arrested and jailed? Do we watch interment camps be built?
I’m not ready to react to anything tonight, but we need to start thinking.
@MiriShuli@GottaLaff
I am not a -US citizen so I have no place giving you advice but I can give you my perspective as an outsider.
I think everyone needs to take a breath and a time out to evaluate what their needs are and how they want to respond.
These are scary times indeed.
I can't tell you what to do, that is a personal choice and something you need to talk about with your friends, family and community.
I think we need to trust that Biden and his advisors know what they are doing.
@Snowshadow@GottaLaff I think Biden will win in Nov. but this doesn’t solve America’s problem. Project 2025 and Rachel Maddow’s podcast Ultra highlights that we have long had a contingent of people who want an authoritarian govt. Now, our old guardrails are gone. We are going to need to do many things at once.
@MiriShuli@GottaLaff
Yes, once Trump is gone that won't solve the problem but maybe the best course of action is to make sure Biden wins the election. Biden isn't stupid and has intelligent people advising him and the vice president.
There is a rise in authoritarianism around the world not only in the US. Times are frightening. I am hoping that if we work together we will defeat those who want to impose their views upon us.
@Snowshadow
People tire the living fuck out of me.
We have done this "let's have the strongman" thing for thousands of years, and it NEVER works out nice, and ALWAYS takes a huge amount of blood and damage to get rid of them and rebuild, and yet here we are again. Just because a small number of old white people are fretting because they see "other people" living, and having fun.
Like can we just NOT fucking do this authoritarian fascist shit again?
@Snowshadow@mloxton@JaneGI@GottaLaff I think this is my main problem today. I’m just exhausted by it all. The most exhausting of all are the people who don’t really understand what is happening. I just spent over an hour on the phone with such a person. I’m glad I did it, as it secures a Biden vote in Tx, but I am still exhausted.
@MiriShuli
🥳 Great!
I understand. I am doing the same here in Canada (yes we have Maple MAGA politicians) and I spend hours talking to people and dispelling the lies and half-truths. It is exhausting. You can always come here for a "refueling". 😉 And don't forget to be kind to yourself and take care of your mental health. For example today my posts were not political instead they have been positive tech and science-related. Everyone needs a break once in a while.@mloxton@JaneGI@GottaLaff
@mloxton@Snowshadow@MiriShuli@GottaLaff I said people haven't seen it in this country. Meaning they've not live in a world like this as long as they can remember. This thing with Felon Trump locking up people is coming. Lots of people are going to prison.
@JaneGI
Anyone who isn't anxious and frightened is stupid or uninformed, however
if everyone has that defeatist attitude it surely will come true.
People need to unite and encourage each other to resist the GOP, support Biden and democracy, because surrendering is exactly what Trump/Heritage Foundation/MAGA wants you to do...never give up.
One thing I learned in life is bullies eventually fall when people resist.
@PhoenixGee@GottaLaff@Snowshadow@mloxton@MiriShuli You know what, people are being realist. The last time we sat back and allow Clinton not to dig in an fight we lost. Biden needs to do what's right and if that means step down, so be it.
@JaneGI@PhoenixGee@GottaLaff@Snowshadow@mloxton He cannot June. If he steps down there will be states where there is no one on the ballot. The logistics of stepping down make it an impossibility.
It’s a Russian talking point. Time to talk about something else.
@GottaLaff@Snowshadow@mloxton@MiriShuli I wouldn't call it panic on my end. I'd call it preparing for apocalypse. Biden is a dude who isn't going to step down. Yet here he is on stage having a senior moment. That makes him scary to people. Trump is preparing to burn down our government and jail average folks, and that should worry people too, but it isn't as much.
@JaneGI I am not avoiding the reality of the situation but I done talking with someone who is with with anyone pushing the "apocalypse" narrative because it is not helpful and all it does is create more panic and when people panic they do not think straight. If you have anything that might be helpful to add to the conversation then I am "all ears" if not please remove me from the thread. Thank you. @GottaLaff@mloxton@MiriShuli
@GottaLaff
I am done with being polite. Anyone who is constantly pushing this rhetoric and has only 12 followers after having an account since last September is very suspicious. Also from the account
"American Combat Veteran disenfranchised by a nation who would rather worship money and liars."
I don't believe it is an "American or one with combat experience.
Time for a block
@GottaLaff@Snowshadow@JaneGI@mloxton@MiriShuli Then you need to correct that operative. We need to be focusing on the measures the Biden administration has taken that support left-leaning and centrist values, that making America great isn't a broad-sweeping torch, but a painstaking build, and what compromises are required to facilitate that build.
@GottaLaff@Snowshadow@JaneGI@mloxton@MiriShuli
The dem operative still has their head in the sand about their candidate. Getting their head out of the sand is all of our first step towards having a chance against trump.
@Snowshadow@MiriShuli@GottaLaff Love your perspective, Snowshadow. It took decades for us to get to this point. It's going to take decades to "get back" to a civil, open, "we're all in this together" state. Important to not take knee-jerk, "punch back" stands - play the long game. Violence solves nothing (see Israel, Ukraine, Sudan et al). But we do have to fight. At the polls. In your local councils and political clubs. With your wallet. Too many of us haven't participated in our governement
@GottaLaff
Thank you for promoting reason, for urging people to
be their own heroes by voting and taking whatever GOTV actions they can.
Have as peaceful an evening as you can.
Boop across the border.
@GottaLaff I’m with Laffy on this one. Violence is the last resort of fools and losers, sadly there is an abundance of both. Thank you GottaLaff, have a peaceful week!
@GottaLaff I’m concerned about this too. SCOTUS has backed the nation into a corner and hopefully there will be a legal way out of this situation soon before people think it’s time to take matters into their own hands. Anarchy is no joke.
@GottaLaff I don’t want to add to what is probably already a pile of replies, but my Fediverse experience got considerably better when I blocked the entire kolektiva.social domain. It’s a woefully under-moderated cesspit of cretins.
@GottaLaff thank you, Laffy. Today’s SCOTUS news is horrible and emotions are running high but that’s no excuse for people to use your timeline as a punching bag. Take care. 💜
@GottaLaff Night. I understand their anger and I think some of what they’re saying is just words out of anger. I don’t condone violence either. Tomorrow we get to work electing Democrats to fix another mess.