MisterFrog ,
@MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Y'all need to just stop it with voting machines USA. Pencil and paper is far more secure.

I'm not doubting that trump wasn't elected, reality has a left-wing bias, but damn, what if voting machines are hacked, or have a backdoor built-in in the future.

Pencil and paper folks, it just works.

MisterFrog ,
@MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

It's also much harder to claim fraud when there is none (provided your auditing and multiple independent oversight is good).

Fades ,

this is what fascists do

Donald fucking trump attempted to flood his own computer surveillance room to destroy evidence too

aStonedSanta ,

Source?

dezmd ,
@dezmd@lemmy.world avatar
teamevil ,

Newsmax do something unethical and once again doing nothing remotely close to infotainment just spewing stupidity and fear. Chris Ruddy is a monster.

Nougat ,

If the consequence of destroying evidence is less than the consequence of being convicted of the crime that evidence supports, you destroy evidence. Simple economics.

commandar , (edited )

Spoliation can be grounds for the judge to give the jury adverse inference instructions. i.e., the jury is allowed to assume that whatever was info was destroyed would have been damaging to the defendant's case.

nonailsleft ,

No shit

circuscritic , (edited )

This isn't a murder trial. This can have significantly adverse affects on the punitive damages.

Just look at the Alex Jones trial for a recent example.

aniki ,

How much has Jones paid?

circuscritic , (edited )

That's irrelevant to my point, which was that destroying evidence in a trial with monetary damages can result in increased damages, instead of avoiding them.

If you're still not getting it, you should reread the comment thread and to see the context for that example being used.

LEDZeppelin ,

Add it to the pile. All these Nazi assholes are counting on Shitler to win in November so that he can make all the lawsuits disappear overnight

comador ,
@comador@lemmy.world avatar

I'm so not looking forward to November's elections.

Bbbbbbbbbbb ,

I just want to get it over with already, i want to know why we are gonna have a civil war

Fiivemacs ,

So basically will it be defensive or offensive?

disguy_ovahea ,

There will be no civil war if Trump wins, just a lot of injured or dead protesters. There will be National Guard and Federal Agents dispatched to hot zones to neutralize potential threats. Look at what happened in Portland. Unless you can take down a tank, you’re just a meat obstacle.

militaryintelligence ,

There won't be a civil war. Every Republican I know is a coward.

NatakuNox ,
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

They're just not large enough to get away with murder... You know like the oil industry, defense industry, prison industry, etc etc etc

todd_bonzalez ,

Wait, can the president override a civil case? I didn't think pardon power worked like that.

stoly ,

No. This is a civil lawsuit too. Pardons are for crimes.

suction ,

He can probably force a “friendly” judge to take over the case.

stoly ,

No, the judiciary is fully separate. The president might have influence over whether a case is prosecuted but Congress took direct control of the DOJ away from the presidency after Nixon abused those powers.

Rapidcreek OP ,

That would be shocking from such an ethical organization

worldwidewave , (edited )

First bad thing I’ve heard about them /s

thefartographer ,

Yeah? Well here's the second thing: those people are a bunch of doodieheads

autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Lawyers for Florida-based Smartmatic allege that Newsmax engaged in a “cover-up” by destroying texts and emails of key executives that would demonstrate the network’s knowledge that voting fraud claims being pushed by former President Donald Trump and his allies were untrue.

The lawsuit is just one of many major defamation cases filed by Smartmatic and Dominion Voting Systems against news organizations over false claims about fraud in 2020 election.

In 2023, just moments before opening statements in a Delaware courtroom, Fox News paid the voting machine company Dominion a settlement of $787.5 million over similar false claims it made on air.

Powell was a Newsmax guest and a source of false allegations about voting fraud by Smartmatic and other companies.

Smartmatic’s motion details numerous instances of evidence destruction, including incriminating emails and texts from Newsmax executives, indicating intentional spoliation.”

In April, Smartmatic settled a suit against OANN, another right-wing news channel that allowed false election fraud claims on its air.


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