brygphilomena ,

I'm growing it to see how long it gets until it gets too annoying. Every day I want to shave it off or at least cut it fairly short.

Daft_ish ,

Because it grew back?

antlion ,
@antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The question is: why are you shaving? Why are you so afraid of looking like yourself?

When you have a beard, people respect you. They listen when you talk and hold doors open for you. I have a hard time trusting a man with a clean shaved face, because our interaction is starting off with a lie. I feel the same way about makeup and fake eyebrows and plastic surgery.

Lizardking27 ,

copypasta?

antlion ,
@antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

An OC Rant with some light trolling in the form of toxic masculinity. Sarcastic but with elements of truth.

MeetInPotatoes ,

A fine cuisine. Pairs well with a nice Riesling.

neomachino ,

As a clean shaved man who doesn't shave because he can't grow any sort of facial hair I feel personally attacked.

antlion ,
@antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I actually dig the Native American, Mongolian, Japanese style. Like a few dark hairs, but mostly smooth. Sometimes it’s just like the mustache tips that get dark. Let it grow.

Alice ,

How far does this go? Are haircuts lies? What about clothing?

I'm a big believer that we should embrace our natural features, but nobody is trying to mislead you into believing they don't grow facial hair.

antlion ,
@antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yeah and those who cake on makeup aren’t trying to mislead me into thinking they’re pretty either. It does also apply to some clothes. Not regular haircuts but certainly hair dying, straightening, and curling. I would apply it to nail extensions and high heels as well. I think it’s pretty fair to put daily full facial shaving into that same category. It’s all clown shoes to me.

EffortlessEffluvium ,

The rent (razors) is too damn high!!!

Chenzo ,
@Chenzo@lemmy.world avatar

If I may quote Nick Offerman...

I grow a beard because I am neither a child nor a woman.

VintageTech ,

I prefer to shave so individuals can see that I have a chin / jawline.

intensely_human ,

I prefer not to shave, to make them wonder

Sgt_choke_n_stroke ,

Good for you

scottywh ,

Shaving sucks.

The real question is why shaving should be normalized, expected, or encouraged in modern society.

squeakycat ,

Yeah, normalize either being okay. Just like long or short hair. Diversity is the spice of life.

scottywh ,

Good answer. 👍

Jakeroxs ,

Ye, I just shave mine when it starts irritating my neck 🤷‍♂️

bluemellophone , (edited )

Long story short: WW2

The military required men to be clean shaven, which was partly tactical (proper gas mask seals), partly to whitewash the service (e.g., black men can have severe skin reactions to shaving every day), and had other benefits to unit cohesion and general order (routine personal fitness and hygiene).

Well, that stuck, and an entire (massive) generation of men and their male children were taught that to be good they simply had to be clean shaven. Those two generations make up the vast majority of business and political power in the US, so the idea of “success” and “power” was idolized by a clean shaven male. This was further accentuated by the counter culture reaction of this cohort’s kids in the 60s and 70s, where longer and unkempt “bad” hair was cast against this “good” clean shaven look.

Fast forward to today, those traditions and appearances have been baked into most of modern life. As the boomer population starts to fade away, so will the tyranny of the razor.

Omniraptor ,

The boomers ARE the unshaven hippies tho. People born in the 40s and entering public life in the 60s-70s

m13 ,

Beards are where the Communism is stored. As the ruling class become richer and more obscene, class consciousness grows amongst the working class. Hence, beards.

intensely_human ,

I’ve got mine almost completely colonized with psychedelic mycelium!

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,

Beards are great. Shaving was the greatest crime of Romans.

intensely_human ,

Right up there with Carthage

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,

??? Carthaginians did not had that custom, most wore beards.

PanArab ,

I think they meant the destruction of Carthage something I am still sore about

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,

Yeah that too, if the Carthage was not destroyed it would serve as counterbalance to Romans at least for a time, and the vile shaving custom would not spread as much.

DrFuggles ,

I think they mean the destruction of Carthage 😉

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,

Yeah that too, if the Carthage was not destroyed it would serve as counterbalance to Romans at least for a time, and the vile shaving custom would not spread as much.

CanadaPlus ,

As everyone's arguing about what the trend actually is, I went looking for hard numbers. Here's some data spanning the Victorian to the late Cold War, from a paper by Dwight E. Robinson, but the link to it itself appears to be broken now.

Unfortunately, more recent information is googlebombed with people's lightly supported fluff pieces, so a cursory look didn't turn anything like this up for the 80's, 90's, 00's, and 10's.

lemmyreader OP ,

Thanks, and go go gadget valid link!
https://pdodds.w3.uvm.edu/files/papers/others/1976/robinson1976a.pdf

CanadaPlus , (edited )

Dope!

Now that I think about it, you can just extrapolate that curve forwards and it matches anecdotal data about the 80's and 90's, reaching a similar smooth face extreme around 1990 to peak beard in the 1890. By that logic, it's a 2-century cycle, and we'll be back to all beards late this century.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

The influence of Marxism

CanadaPlus ,

I mean, they're both coming back a bit, but I don't know anyone who was like "well, Marx had one".

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

(It's not real analysis, I'm memeing)

CanadaPlus ,

(Oh, gotcha!)

intensely_human ,

From each according to his capacity I suppose

panned_cakes ,
@panned_cakes@hexbear.net avatar

I just do whatever the last attractive person who gave me advice on my appearance told me to do trump-dapper

CanadaPlus , (edited )

Fashions change. We were about due for a swing back to beardy, I reckon.

Personally, I'm bald, and I grow a really good one that, like, holds a shape. It just makes sense.

TheLastHero ,

it's fun to play with. my ADHD brain likes the texture

harrys_balzac ,

That's the tism side of my brain. The ADHD side of my brain thinks shaving is the most boring chore ever. I fold and put away my laundry with greater frequency.

Melatonin ,

Receding chins

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