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petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@jeena I only use DeepL to translate and that's it. I also started taking notes in .md files, so that could make for a good use case in the future if there was an AI that I could use without connecting to the internet (e.g. to only let me tell stuff based on the files I got). Otherwise I am pretty reticent on AI. Perhaps I watched too many fiction movies, but I am afraid it will become too sentient and somehow escape the human oversight, thus creating havoc in our lives.

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@jeena it doesn't connect to any server even when you're online?

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@hedge Wow, this is big. Fedi needs more macroblogging options to compensate for the domination of Mastodon and other microblogging platforms. And also it being another corporate actor like Meta, but smaller, will create the incentive for Meta to play more fairly in the long run and not EEE the Fediverse with Threads, just like it did with XMPP by integrating it under Facebook almost a decade ago. This is exactly what we need to become and stay mainstream.

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@t3rmit3 As long as those missiles don't carry nuclear warheads, it's all manageable.

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@Stillhart yea, you can, but that means trusting the third party providing the apk. Besides that, China also has a big power over the internet. They could outright block the apps from working altogether only by cutting the connection. Especially with Threads and WhatsApp where you cannot choose any proxy within the app.

In fact, I think they already did it.

@Sgn

petrescatraian , 1 month ago (edited 1 month ago)

@TheMonkeyLord in China you mean? Well, if CCP would find a way to control it, then yes.

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@Gonkulator one of them that is the most active really is a Russian living in the West, yet is rolling Kremlin propaganda like crazy. You can find him on Mastodon as well, with his real name displayed on his website.

@Nia_The_Cat

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@Zorque @Alto @Facebones @Gonkulator @Nia_The_Cat @JayTreeman y'all!

If that helps, think that you also have a choice between someone who supports freedom and democracy in Europe and someone who would tell Russia to do whatever the hell it wants.

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@ElCanut geee, I wonder how did they make Microsoft Access.

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@sonori the problem is that Discord tried to mix social media with Instant Messaging. This is not something that's working well. On one of them, you just talk to people, ask them about stuff and whatnot (this is why it is also called direct messaging). On other, you want to have stuff that is rather more easily accessible and has various other social functions - and it is also designed around it.

You also have a place where you can centralize all discussion (i.e. the feed) so you can at least get an idea of what is going on.

Discord (as a messaging app, primarily) is totally unfit for these tasks.

@wesker

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@pewgar_seemsimandroid that's great. Wish my city did the same because we have loads of these buildings

petrescatraian OP , 1 month ago (edited 1 month ago)

@maculata This racist take of yours has zero link to the news in question.

petrescatraian OP , 1 month ago

@maculata No, what you said is double-folded racist:

1. It assumes all Roma people steal - which is not true, there are great people of Roma origin that contributed greatly to the society, but the situation this minority went through along the history put it more to the edge of the societies and made them more exposed to criminal activity.
2. It assumes that all Romanian people are Roma people who steal and scam people - so, as a Romanian myself, thanks for making me a thief or a scammer I guess? :)

petrescatraian OP , 1 month ago

@maculata Respecting human rights like in that same Western Europe, I guess?

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@tardigrada but... but... they said Russian sanctions don't work! /s

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

Wouldn't it have been better to just selhost an instance? Like, they'd have more control...

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@MayonnaiseArch yep, exactly. I mean, if @EU_Commission did it, why could they not do it for Christ's sake!!!

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@i_am_not_a_robot Lemmy itself does not allow you to follow people, that's why you cannot see him (unless he posts/comments something on Lemmy).

Kbin is the closest thing to Lemmy that allows you to follow individual persons.

@hedge

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@AGuyAcrossTheInternet well, we know from the article that the first result is the official account. The second is a bird site bridge, but wtf is the third one?!?

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@v9CYKjLeia10dZpz88iU he should be able to post here, provided the instance is not blocking Threads. That's how you could possibly ping him. Otherwise, maybe raising an issue could help.

petrescatraian , 1 month ago

@0x815 as it always did.

petrescatraian , 2 months ago

Anonymity enables you to speak the truth if you want, but it also enables you to lie whatever, if you want. No one can hold accountable an anonymous person if their lies produce something tragic.

While people speaking openly under their identity are more likely to speak the truth when they do it, as they have much more to lose if they're caught lying.

petrescatraian , 2 months ago

@1984 That is because of the purpose of those networks. On more general purpose networks like Reddit it is not uncommon for people to simply take advantage of the anonymous system in order to farm karma by posting stuff that is simply not true.

And I'm saying this as a person who genuinely liked Reddit at first, because of the reasons you mentioned.

And it probably was like that before.

But things got a bit more complex. Even on LinkedIn and Facebook, while you should theoretically be public, many people are chosing not to. While on Reddit, you could clearly recognize some people, even public persons.

Even so, the issue is more complex than that of anonymity. It's more about motives and other things, and anonymity does not ipso facto bring the truth, no matter how socially acceptable is it.

I tend to view most of the stuff that is posted online nowadays as rather a personal opinion of the poster - which can be true, or not. You decide.

petrescatraian , 2 months ago

@hedge I dislike Facebook, so that's why I am here. But if the only way to stay in touch with people I know irl is on Threads, so be it. Either my server federates with Threads, or there's one more Threads user in this world.

Well, at least that's what many people would choose, imo. On the flip side, if Facebook itself would be federated and my server would federate with it, I would simply delete my Facebook account. Period.

I get that Meta is an outrageous organization, but people seem to forget the purpose of these platforms altogether - which is communication. And communications happen when other people use the same platform as well. And okay, let's say I have a managed Fedi server (which is the most hassle-free option of self-hosting, leaving money and legal stuff aside). What am I gonna do if, e.g. I get a Tinder match and the girl is asking me for my Facebook or Insta? Should I say something like "hey, I don't have either, but make an account on this random-ass website where only a few hundred people are there as well, and you don't know anyone of them personally"?

If people want to get people to leave the Meta platforms for Fedi and whatnot, then federating with Threads and educating people this way would actually be a better option imo.

petrescatraian , 2 months ago

@flora_explora that's why you have to get as many people here before the last e phase ;)

petrescatraian , 2 months ago

@FfaerieOxide huh? How is that supposed to be an analogy? You are infinitely safer interacting with a Threads user here than by actually using Threads itself. Like, I don't get it. Do you guys want to get more people on the Fediverse? Do you want to convince your friends or just turn the Fediverse into the default way of communicating with people so that if you meet a new person at a cafe or a bar to simply ask "hey, what's your fedi address?" without them giving you a weird stare and ask you what's that thing? Or are you just implying that we should just have, like, our own castle, where only we can socialize online and the other people would simply be some foreigners of some sort?

Yes, that change can happen even in time. But with a social network like Threads joining in with hundreds of millions of people you have the opportunity to show, at least to people you know, but not only, live, what it is like to get on a platform that respects your privacy, doesn't bother you with ads of any sort, have a more sane feed that you as a user can control, and still keep up with the latest stuff they care about. Threads was never and never will be about all this stuff.

Sure, they will try all their best to, e.g. rank you lower in the feed or do a Pixelfed thing on whatever. Or some people will look at you like a Linux promoter or something. But if more people in the mainstream see the Fediverse as a valid platform and not some sort of a niche thing that geeks and hackers like to use, then they'll be more likely to join.

What many of you fail to understand is that Meta joining in is an opportunity to freely advertise the Fediverse to the masses. Sure, not the whole 100 mln. or so Threads users will join, but imo, in terms of user numbers, this part of the Fediverse not owned by Meta will have a lot to gain. And when that happens, we'll have a lot more leverage if/when they do nasty stuff. Or just shut their federation for good.

And one more thing: I get those that are defederating from Meta by principle, because of how Meta behaves as a company. But defederating with Meta strictly because of the bad users there simply implies that all of those 100 mln. users are bad faith. Are you really believing that 100 mln. people in this world among of which some of your friends and family members are all transphobes, homophobes, nazis etc.? If so, then you have a pretty gloomy view of the world.

I mean, sure, many users will be problematic (as there are on many Fedi instances that one might or might not have blocked) which would need the ban hammer a lot. Probably even temporary defederation untill the situation gets resolved.

But I like to think that these people are a minority in this whole world. 🙂
@hedge @flora_explora

petrescatraian , 2 months ago

@FfaerieOxide I think we all have our needs and wants, out of which all need to be addressed in one way or another.

The very fact we're having this discussion is a healthy sign that it's okay to have different opinions on such topics - no matter how wrong it sounds.

There is no one-size-fits-all, despite some people like FediTips/FediFollows/FediWhatever is thinking about people.

And bad people and entities exist all the time. They existed before Facebook, they existed with Facebook (and Meta), and they will exist after Meta as well. Just check any blocklist of any okay server and you will spot them.

If you know them IRL, you can tell them IRL to get off of facebook.

This didn't work, sadly. And it doesn't work because such platforms make you think that they are the default. That nothing exists beside them or that if it does, it's either dangerous or empty. Don't you even see that the first question someone joining Mastodon is "who is also there?". This is a good opportunity to show them that someone is there...

@hedge

petrescatraian , 2 months ago

@FfaerieOxide people hate Facebook. Or Meta. They hate their policy, they hate how their services (don't) work, yet they stay there because everyone is there. If they see people that are not there, I think they are more likely to make the switch (not that will do, but more likely).

not legitimize it's use

I never said that people should use Threads to join the Fediverse. I said that people who already use Threads can be more easily convinced to join this place.

But if you think a good chunk of people will just randomly browse the web, stumble upon these weird sites called kbin.social or libranet.de and understand how they work from the get-go, then I have bad news for you.

That is, unless you just feel better staying in a cloister castle anyway.

In which case, you should understand that not anyone wants this. 🙂

@hedge @flora_explora

petrescatraian , 2 months ago

@FfaerieOxide that's not how the perception of the masses works, though.

@hedge

petrescatraian , 2 months ago

@FfaerieOxide So you realize something is not on Threads by the fact that it is not on Threads? On this logic, I also heard about a bearded man bringing presents on 25th of December each year.

@hedge

petrescatraian , 2 months ago

@FfaerieOxide Tell them to join the Fediverse from the Fediverse 😀

Like, simply, if you tell them that they can access all the content they want on Threads (because that's why they're there), while not being there, and also see it demoed from you, the person already on the non-Meta Fediverse, they are more likely to make the switch, especially if they encounter any regular issue like being wrongly banned or having network issues.

Hell, even if they create backup accounts here, it's still a partial win for us - they can switch back any time back and forth and see what fits them better. ;)

@hedge @flora_explora

petrescatraian , 2 months ago

The Fediverse is the Fediverse by not being Meta. You are arguing for destroying the Fediverse for everyone by waving Meta in.

By waving Meta or Meta users? If it's the latter, I do not see anything wrong. Regular instance moderation still applies.

My point is that the focus should be on user growth of the regular Fediverse, so that Meta would have a harder time applying EEE and making an actual impact with it. (De)federation of Threads should be less of an important topic. But user growth should be the numero uno priority.

Those are my 2c on this. Hope I made myself clear.

Why do you keep putting my and others' @ in your messages? If that's a your instance thing it's weird.

Yes, I'm on Friendica, and this is the default behavior, sorry. This seems to be a way to be compatible with Mastodon, which uses tags to notify people of new replies (silly, I know, but someone at Mastodon decided that this is the way to go).

When replying to someone, I usually write the comment after the 1st tag because it's easier and makes more sense in such a discussion. Sorry if that bothered you. I am now on my PC and I can delete them easier 😁

petrescatraian , 2 months ago

I kinda dislike the word as well. Makes it seem like it's sort of a separate and special side of the Fediverse, when it isn't. It's just as interconnected and interoperable with other Fediverse software like Mastodon (microblogging) or Friendica (macroblogging) the same way as others are. In fact, here I am, replying to you from Friendica.

Imo people could just call them as they are: bulletin boards. Or just something involving groups, idk (because that's what they are, mostly).

petrescatraian , 2 months ago

@magikmw wrote:

As a pole

Which one?

petrescatraian , 2 months ago

@crazyCat well, Russia said power infrastructure is a strategic target, so I don't know why wouldn't it be for Ukraine too. Let them eat from their own desert.

@LaFinlandia

petrescatraian OP , 2 months ago

Sprawl Repair Manual

Wow. That's an interesting guide.

I'm technically not a westerner (I live in Bucharest, Romania, a neighborhood called Drumul Taberei - look it up). I, too, was really excited when I saw the video and I thought that living in a neighborhood like this would be the best choice for me in the long run. Indeed, I am quite happy with the place I live. Space-wise, my apartment is decent, and I have great connections to the rest of the city via public transit (tram, metro, buses, trolleybuses). I have many amenities nearby, such as a shopping mall (yes, an actual shopping mall that I can walk to), a few supermarkets, countless stores, some specialized, even a library.

The municipality also seems to address some of the issues in my neighborhood, with some more recent commercial infill developments that allow you to travel less to, and some new alleys for pedestrians through empty green space (If you guys are interested, I might post some photos about that transformation). There are still no bike paths, but some rudimentary bike parking is being built.

However, I sometimes feel like both the American model of development and the Soviet model with microdistricts and the likes are just the wrong way of development. Like, they are both the results of centuries of industrial and technological evolution. But both just, somehow, lack that "vibe" of the city that the old city centers have. They are places where you can live - i.e. where you have a home, and you sleep, but if you're not a resident, you just feel you don't belong there. They're just both so bland and indistinguishable from one another, while lacking in personality. I think we should get more cues from how cities were build previously, before the impact of people such as Le Corbusier over how we built things, in order to build more coherent and connected cities. 😁

Top of my mind comes this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0rH5ZiKV2U

petrescatraian OP , 2 months ago

@cerement indeed, those were some quick and dirty solutions that fixed the housing problem quickly. Yet they raised some whole different sets of issues that we're only now dealing with 😁