A weird new app lets San Francisco residents monitor local bars via live video feed to see what’s happening there and to check how busy the venues are.
2Nite, which launched earlier this year, uses a network of cameras at various Bay Area establishments to provide remote insights into what’s happening at those locations.
In fact, some local bar patrons have predictably been a bit perturbed (creeped out, even) by an app that remotely monitors them and streams their drunken revelry to an unknown amount of strangers on the internet.
“You should be able to let loose in a bar where Big Brother isn’t watching you,” a young woman told the Standard when asked about the app.
Lucas Harris, the co-founder of 2Nite, has said that businesses that partner with the app are in control of the cameras and that the feeds are mainly meant to “offer a glimpse of live shows at bars, clubs, and other event venues,” the Standard writes.
Harris and his co-founder, Francesco Bini, also told the outlet they had introduced live stream blurring to anonymize the feeds and keep individual partygoers from being identified.
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I like being able to check how busy a place is, but not like this. Simple head count or an average wait time is good. Using web cams is creepy overkill. Typical tech bro invasive shit.
It wouldn't surprise me if the way it determines how busy places are would be considered a bigger privacy violation than these webcams (which only show people in their areas while Google somehow can report on how busy many arbitrary locations are vs their usual).
I’m not one to praise Google often but I think their Popular Times feature can be handy to see how busy a place might be. This live feed video stuff is way over the top and invasive.
I’m generally in favor of privacy, but a bar is public place. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy. Unless they’re putting cameras in the bathrooms, I don’t see how this is an issue. They likely already have security cameras that are recording, this just makes some of those publicly viewable. Other than an additional layer of convenience, how is this any different from walking into a bar, seeing it’s packed, and leaving.
Security cams are not available to anyone - only the bar staff has (hopefully limited) access to the video. While everything is recorded, unless something happens you can be confident the video will end up deleted.
There's a difference from being watched by some creep through the window and being watched by a dozen creeps wanking off to you in a basment.
I would say the potential for misuse, while definitely present, is outweighed by the potential benefits.
A creep watching you from their basement is less likely to act on their dangerous impulses.
An overcrowded bar, poses a lot of risks in itself and the ability to determine how crowded the bar is without having to be physically present can mitigate your exposure to those risks.
In a crowded bar you have a higher risk of being drugged or assaulted because security and staff will likely be distracted or simply unable to notice and intervene. Also, in the event of an emergency that requires you to be able exit quickly, such as a fire or earthquake not only will it be much more difficult to leave it’s also more likely that people will panic and exasperate the problem.
Is a camera with a public live feed the best way to achieve that? No, probably not. But it’s simple, cheap, and gets the job done.
A bar is also a public venue. In a public place you have absolutely no reasonable expectation of privacy. So, while in most circumstances it’s unreasonable to expect that you’re being recorded, it’s equally unreasonable to expect that you’re not.
Fuck that. It absolutely is not a norm to have anyone with an internet connection watch you drink, and is an obscene safety risk. Making a camera publicly accessible should automatically revoke your liquor license and permanently bar the owner from ever being able to apply for one again.
I'm shocked at what an unpopular thought this is. Like... If you go out in public, there's a very real risk that people in public will see you. If that's a concern you have, then you should take steps to not be seen in public. To me, that would mean not making my presence obvious when visiting a bar.
Camera or not, if people are looking for you, they will find ways to look for you in public places. You should always assume you're being watched, because you probably already are.
This app got me laid,” says one five-star review on the Apple App Store. “Best way to buy tickets for events. 2nite is the truth and the future,” the horny user wrote.
This author knows what’s up. Most glorious ending to a news article I seen in a while.
I remember walking into bars and even paying the entry fee just to walk right back out 2 minutes later and waste my time going to the next one. Sometimes, it would happen multiple times in a row. It never made the experience better.
