mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

There's no way I'd be able to keep track of all the stuff I want without an RSS reader.

Engywuck ,

Why should people stop telling other people what they should do in 2024...

testman ,

Problem is that the whole concept of advertising is "telling other people what to do".

  • People use Google.
  • Google tells people to use Chrome
  • Chrome becomes most popular browser
  • Chrome removes the " this site has RSS" icon from URL bar
  • People forget that RSS is a thing
  • People now rely on Google News and other biased sites to get information
  • biased sites tell people what to do

RSS is freedom
go tell other people to use it
also Lemmy RSS community

Engywuck ,

go tell other people to use it

I'm not going to tell anyone what they should do, sorry. And every site is biased, no matter what.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

mbin is my rss reader. fediverse instance + bot

mozz Admin ,
mozz avatar

Which RSS bot do you use? I was going to make one for my RSS feeds, but if there already is one...

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

for lemmy, its pretty straight forward with this bot

https://github.com/programming-dot-dev/rss-bot

for the 'bins, there doesnt exist a direct-to-mbin bot yet (i've been workin on it.. i suck at logins), in the meantime youd use a lemmy instance as intermediary:

you setup a non-public, localized lemmy instance, have the bot configured for your needs to grab feeds into communities, then subscribe from your 'bin instance.

kreynen ,

@originalucifer is there an issue/branch/fork where bins support is happening? I'd like to help with that if I can.

@ginerel @mozz

mozz Admin ,
mozz avatar

Yeah, I'd like to as well; I just messaged them asking about it.

mozz Admin ,
mozz avatar

Are you comfortable sending your work so far on the mbin bot? I did the same thing you did; I picked it up but then ran into the OAuth stuff and got confused. I actually have an RSS mbin bot that was going for a while that was based on just local database access, but working out the OAuth stuff seems like a better way and I'm happy to take another crack at it.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

ha, i dont because were in the same place... was playing with awesomebot, but then started attempting to hack the pangora bot starting with the login first, but i got roadblocked at the login and havent really had time to sort it.

spaduf ,
@spaduf@slrpnk.net avatar

Does anybody have any recommendations for FOSS RSS readers with actual content surfacing features? So many RSS feeds are full of junk (this is particularly a problem with feeds with wildly disparate posting frequencies) and I've always felt they'd be a lot more useful if people were putting more effort into a modern way to sort through extremely dense feeds.

ALostInquirer ,

Would you happen to mean readers with filtering tools? If so I'm interested as well.

I know Thunderbird technically has them, but I've had trouble making them work as effectively as I'd like. RSSOwl had some that were easier to work with, but stopped being updated. There's now a fork of it called RSSOwlnix, but I haven't taken the time to see whether it still works as well or not. May be worth looking into though...

spaduf ,
@spaduf@slrpnk.net avatar

Really I mean anything more advanced than keyword filters. Performance friendly NLP has come a long way since the advent of RSS

jarfil ,
@jarfil@beehaw.org avatar

I mean anything more advanced than keyword filters.

Sounds like an opportunity to integrate some AI... 🙈

spaduf ,
@spaduf@slrpnk.net avatar

We don't need to use that word here

sourov ,

Fluent Reader

smeg ,

Don't know what you mean by "actual content surfacing features", but I'm quite happy with Feeder, it's pretty basic but it's FOSS and the notifications work!

spaduf ,
@spaduf@slrpnk.net avatar

Posted elsewhere: Really I mean anything more advanced than keyword filters and grouped feeds. Performance friendly NLP has come a long way since the advent of RSS

smeg ,

Fair enough, I'm not aware that Feeder has any of that. I don't even want filtering or groups, I just want a notification of every new post on a community or website!

po_tay_toes ,
@po_tay_toes@lemmy.sambands.net avatar

I use RSS feeds to subscribe to YouTube channels without a google account.

UmbraTemporis ,

Piped is good too btw

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

LibreTube works better.

Yearly1845 ,

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    helenslunch ,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    That's a Piped thing. You just have to disable the Piped API unless you run your own server.

    Yearly1845 ,

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    helenslunch ,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    Okay well they've been having problems for the last couple of months. That's the risk you take when relying on a 3rd party service. Try GrayJay.

    smeg ,

    I use RSS feeds to subscribe to Lemmy communities! (well, specifically my own one)

    noodlejetski ,

    I used to follow a TON of webcomics via RSS, first on Feedly, then on Inoreader, but a few years ago I've stopped opening my feed for certain reasons (and now I'm afraid to even think of the backlog). I've started getting into RSS again about a year ago, followed some blogs and small news websites, and I've been loving it! currently using my Nextcloud provider's RSS option with the official Nextcloud News app on Android and RSS Guard on PC (I haven't found one that integrates better with Plasma desktop yet).

    SamsonSeinfelder ,

    Check out Selfoss, a self-hostable Online RSS tool, to browse and manage your feeds from the desktop and mobile

    skullgiver , (edited )
    @skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

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    sab ,

    I think the key here is that it's a feed managed by the user. There's not enough commercial potential in that. As a tech company, you want to be the one curating the feed, and you want the user to believe you're doing it in their best interest so they don't notice how you're making money by subtly feeding them ads.

    RSS is simply too good for the contemporary internet.

    Fizz ,
    @Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

    The thing that stops me from moving to rss is that I don't follow any news sites or blogs. I've tried but they all kinda suck to me. The only thing I follow is youtube creators and lemmy communities. Lemmy is my rss feed pretty much.

    sab ,

    I figured there are interesting people out there who don't really blog often, but who might post something online a few times ever year and whom I'd like to stay updated on. So I started trying to collect some of these relatively inactive personal feeds.

    It's not ass noisy as following blogs or social media, which is what I like about it. The only drawback is of course that so few people maintain an RSS feed.

    variants ,

    I follow my lemmy community with my rss and I tossed in a few other sites I felt interested in but always forget to look at like the local paper, that said my server has been collecting months of info but I haven't setup the link to my mobile app out of laziness so it has all been going to waste

    keet ,
    @keet@kbin.social avatar

    Indeed. I installed FreshRSS on my local server and haven't looked back. Man, did I ever miss the web of the google reader era.

    brie , (edited )

    Some useful services:

    testman ,

    Your post is missing the most important information that you wanted to share

    brie ,

    I think some kind of anti-HTML measure yeeted my angle bracketed link :(. Fixed.

    MrShankles ,

    What RSS feeds (preferably without needing an account like NY Times) would people like to recommend? I recently set up Feeder on my phone and have been curating it

    And is there a way to bypass soft-paywalls with an app like feeder?

    themadcodger ,
    @themadcodger@kbin.social avatar

    https://github.com/plenaryapp/awesome-rss-feeds

    helenslunch ,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    I dunno what you guys are on. RSS is crap. If the outlet actually offers it at all, all you get is a title and a thumbnail most of the time.

    HobbitFoot ,

    RSS never developed into anything that an email blast couldn't do.

    jarfil ,
    @jarfil@beehaw.org avatar

    Lemmy communities are glorified RSS feeds, you can even subscribe to them through RSS and not care whether your instance is down for maintenance to read the posts.

    helenslunch ,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    Cool. What practical value does that provide me?

    jarfil ,
    @jarfil@beehaw.org avatar

    What I've said already: once the RSS client gets the feed, it's on your device. Meaning you can access the items off-line, filter and sort by whatever criteria you wish (and your client allows), delete them, mark to read later, etc.

    helenslunch ,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    I'd much rather just use Voyager. If one server is down I just switch to another or...just wait.

    noobdoomguy8658 ,

    Catered feeds, for example.

    You can create a feed that only includes Lemmy communities dedicated to a specific topic - like only those related to video games in some broad sense. Or a news-only feed.

    It's much more convenient that just subscribing to everything you're interested in and then trying to filter out on our own (good luck not forgetting stuff), as you're basically on the algorithm's mercy as well.

    helenslunch ,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    The "algorithm" is why I'm here.

    noobdoomguy8658 ,

    Lemmy, too, has algorithms that determine what you see - how many upvotes a post has, how many comments, how recent, etc. The communities you subscribe to may have some high-quality, niche posts that you're very likely to miss because they're overshadowed by bigger, more active communities where posts simply gain more traction - RSS lets you circumvent that.

    helenslunch ,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    Sure, I might miss something. But if I wanted to manually curate my feed I wouldn't be here.

    I could use RSS and miss high-quality posts too. Much more likely, actually.

    smeg ,

    I get a push notification when there's a post in a specific community

    wargreymon2023 ,

    Blame the website, not rss

    helenslunch ,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    Why does it matter whose to blame?

    drwho ,
    @drwho@beehaw.org avatar

    The site configures what shows up in the RSS or ATOM feed. It's not a feature or a flaw in RSS or ATOM inherently.

    In other words, complain to whomever runs the site in question.

    helenslunch ,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    Once again, I ask "why does it matter?". You can blame whoever you want, but the end result is the same.

    I didn't mean RSS as a concept sucks, I mean the modern implementation and user experience of RSS sucks, because companies DONT WANT YOU to be able access things this way.

    petrescatraian ,
    @petrescatraian@libranet.de avatar

    @drwho yep, that is correct. I also have feeds in all my readers that are displayed completely, while others are just back links to the article in question.

    @helenslunch

    pineapplelover ,

    Every since I started my blog, I've been using RSS feeds to follow other blogs. It's been pretty useful. Alligator and Thunderbird has been nice.

    lvxferre , (edited )
    @lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

    Lemmy moderators: I strongly encourage you guys to subscribe to the RSS of your communities. It's considerably quicker this way to notice and address problematic posts.

    On the article: I've been using Liferea since forever. I wish that it had access to blacklists though; some of my sources have quite a lot of rubbish that I'd rather not bother with.

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