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Sanctus , in My Phantasy Star Online dilemma
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V1 is missing stuff from V2 and if its like the Dreamcast version you lose all your equipped items on death. I love POS2. If you have access to any computer there are free PSO2: Blue Burst servers you can play. I'd look into it before purchasing because all the versions are different. Blue Burst contains everything the previous versions do plus a new Olga Flow boss fight at the end of episode 2.

Davel23 , in My Phantasy Star Online dilemma

You can get an optical drive emulator for the Dreamcast which allows you to play ROMs from flash media. Though there is some cost associated, might be more than you're looking to pay.

forrgott , in My Phantasy Star Online dilemma

Is the disc badly scratched or otherwise physically damaged? Usually, if your disc is the problem, you'll be able to tell by looking at it.

If the disc is in good condition, then the problem might lie with your console. Hopefully it's just a dirty lens, but given how long that console was released, the motor in your optical drive could be wearing out. Do you have similar problems in any other games?

VanHalbgott OP ,

It’s probably the disc. My father and I discussed it ourselves.

forrgott ,

Well, you'd know better than I would, of course!

If it is the disc, I'd take it to my local game store and have them run it through their disc buffing machine. I guess I just want to encourage you to not blame the disc too hastily. Honestly, without visible scratches or damage, it's very rarely the disc. Like...almost never.

jordanlund , in My Phantasy Star Online dilemma
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Re-discovered it via emulation on my SteamDeck...

DosDude , in My Phantasy Star Online dilemma
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You can run burned games in the dreamcast. No need for a mod. If you decide to get a new copy, you don't have to use the original. Just make a copy.

VanHalbgott OP ,

True, but that depends on the Dreamcast model.

I think not all Dreamcasts read all the discs.

Godort ,

It depends on the motherboard revision.

Assuming that you are using an NTSC console, check the label for the number next to where it says "NTSC" if it's a 0 or 1, then it can definitely play them. If it's a 2, then it depends how early it was released. The very first run of them still could, but later revisions couldn't.

DosDude ,
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Cool. Didn't know that. Never owned a dreamcast, so I'm going on information from others.

VanHalbgott OP ,
DosDude ,
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VanHalbgott OP ,

Oh, thanks! Didn’t catch that.

Durandal , in My Phantasy Star Online dilemma
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There's always playing on pc as well...

https://schtserv.com

VanHalbgott OP ,

Is it legal?

altima_neo ,
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It's been running for over a decade and Sega hasn't done anything to it

Durandal ,
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As far as I know there is no issue with legality. I don't remember the specifics at this point. I believe the psobb setup was a free download for the client and what they did was rewrote the server side so it was their own software. As far as the IP art, music, etc. IDK 100%.

I will say it has been going for nearly 15 years and widely publicized and sega hasn't ever tried to do anything to shut it down. I believe it's in some kind of loop hole where running the server is legal, and using the client is legal for PSO:BB, but for v1, v2, and I & II version you would still need to have a legit copy for maximum legality. So if you just want to play the game... PSO:BB using their modified client / server setup is a good way to do it... plus it looks nice in HD. There are other servers besides schthack, that's just the one I used way back in the day and they're still around.

xyzzy ,

This is a very complicated question. Reverse engineering a public game server via network traffic sniffing is legal in the general sense because you're doing it without direct knowledge of the server code. However many game EULAs forbid exactly this, or even forbid playing on private servers. And you have to agree to the EULA in order to use the game client. When in doubt, read the EULA.

However, speaking practically, many game companies don't enforce this.

LazaroFilm ,
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Since you own the media and console, you are allowed to make a copy of your disc and play it on an emulator. If the emulator needs a Bios, there are ways to copy it from your console. That would be the legal way of doing it.

just_another_person , in My Phantasy Star Online dilemma

Can't you just run it in an emulator?

VanHalbgott OP ,

I prefer to play the disc on actual hardware.

That’s how I’ve played it the most.

just_another_person ,

Sounds like you're stuck paying the money for the experience then. Unless you have an older DC unit, you can't play burned discs on the hardware, and if you refuse to play on other accessible forms 🤷

Willie , in Sly Cooper - What Happened to This Iconic Platformer?

The problem was the last game. It kind of ruined the entire series. I didn't like the artstyle change between games. But it also just felt like it was not as good compared to the previous entries. Also they introduced time travel, time travel is like a story killer. Of course, the story was already dead with other choices they had made.

I felt like a 4th sly cooper game should have been about Sly's child since the themes were already about some multigenerational thief family. Sly's child would have wanted to be a cop just like mom, and then been confused after finding out that his family's criminal roots. It could have been a more adult story, for the now more adult players who were children with the previous games. I dunno.

ivanafterall , in Sly Cooper - What Happened to This Iconic Platformer?

He was in Toronto last night.

Rentlar ,

Don't worry, Sly had the golden horseshoe so they were ok taking damage from the electrical transformer station.

As far as authorities know he got away.

AceFuzzLord , in Sly Cooper - What Happened to This Iconic Platformer?
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It is a shame that they never made a game after thieves in time (still on my list of games to play). The first three games were an absolute blast for me when I first got to try them back around 2018. Just as fun, if not more, than the ratched and clank series for me.

GONADS125 ,

I liked it more than Ratchet and Clank too, but Jack and Daxter was my jam.

I replayed the original just a few years ago and it still holds up so well..

AceFuzzLord ,
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I need to get back into Jak and Daxter. I had 100% complete the first game but due to circumstances, never got to complete the 2nd game past the first few hours. Definitely on my list of titles to play, again, if I ever find a copy.

graymess ,

I replayed the first one on OpenGOAL last year and it's amazing how good it still looks at higher resolutions. Jak II is fully playable now and I'm planning to start that as soon as someone releases an HD texture pack.

AceFuzzLord ,
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I'll definitely have to check out OpenGOAL on my laptop. I've wanted to try it for a while, but was always worried my desktop would be unable to handle it.

calavera , in The Quest To Preserve Japanese Feature Phone Games
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Wow, that's a really hard work. Hope they manage to work things out

GrammatonCleric , in Sly Cooper - What Happened to This Iconic Platformer?
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It was PlayStation's "Bubsy", a failed attempt at a new mascot.

jordanlund , in Sly Cooper - What Happened to This Iconic Platformer?
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It was never that good?

Might as well ask what happened to Mark of Kri.

MyDearWatson616 ,

You take that back

Taako_Tuesday ,

I loved all 3 games as a kid, and I think it did a lot of things right for a game of that era. I think it's at least surprising that it never had a remake or a more modern iteration, considering other remakes like ratchet & clank, rayman, etc.

echo64 ,

there's a ps3 and ps vita HD remaster fwiw

jordanlund ,
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I think that's the key thing there... "as a kid". Kids aren't exactly discerning when it comes to games... or movies... or pretty much anything really. It takes time and experience to distinguish what makes something good or bad or just average.

I was in my 30s for the PS2 generation. Sly, Jack and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank - they were all lost on me. Great if you're a kid. Otherwise? Eh... meh.

GONADS125 ,

It takes time and experience to distinguish what makes something good or bad or just average.

Well maybe some day you'll have enough experience to distinguish good games. You're clearly not there just yet.

papalonian ,

I'll agree that if I tried playing Sly Cooper for the first time as a fully grown adult I probably wouldn't enjoy it nearly as much. But kids definitely know a good game from a bad one, that's why there's games targeted to kids/ teens that sell well and others that don't. Just because they didn't grab the attention of 30 year old you doesn't mean they weren't great games, you just weren't the target audience. That's like someone who was 30 when SpongeBob came out saying that it was never that good.

Out of curiosity, what games from that platform/ time do you consider good? Everyone's coming at you for your (objectively wrong /s) opinions on these classics, surely there were some that you enjoyed.

jordanlund ,
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For the Dreamcast/PS2/Xbox/Gamecube generation the biggest hit for me was Phantasy Star Online... jesus, I dunno how many hours I plugged into that.

Halo of course. I was skeptical until I played a demo, instantly bought in. Project Gotham racing as well.

Eternal Darkness on the Gamecube pulled me in to such a degree I played it through 3 times to see all the endings.

I can't really think of a PS2 title that grabbed my attention like those did.

papalonian ,

Halo of course. I was skeptical until I played a demo, instantly bought in.

That's funny, I had this exact experience much more recently when Breath of the Wild was relatively new. I heard so many people raving about how good it was but I was never a huge Zelda guy. Went to Best Buy to window shop, they had a switch on display with BotW queued up. I don't think I even got in to combat before I thought, "ok, this is something special, I need to give this time". Still play it here and there when I'm bored of other games.

echo64 ,

I played them for the first time a few years ago, they are legitimately quite good. above average in many ways and totally unique in other ways.

4 less so, some other people made that one.

Willie ,

What happened to Mark of Kri?

It got two games, and then just kind of vanished.

jordanlund ,
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People bought God of War instead.

yokonzo , in The Quest To Preserve Japanese Feature Phone Games

This is a cause I can really get behind, I remember monsters and magic II I think, was on clamshell phones back in the day. That was the first mobile game to ever make me actually cry. Best part is, theres no ads or in app purchases cause that just was not a thing back then

yamanii OP ,
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Thankfully java and Symbian games are well preserved already, was playing Deep 3D last year, a childhood favorite.

MattTheProgrammer , in Finally finished Super Mario Land 2!
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Hah! I beat that back in the early 90s when it first came out and again recently using an emulator. It's a great little game!

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