randahl ,
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This is awesome: 🙌🏻

The Baltic countries are raising the middle finger to Putin and switching their railway from the old Russian width to European width, and building an enormous railway all the way from Helsinki in Finland to Warsaw in Poland, where it connects to the existing European railway system.

249 kph means 3½ hour rides between European capitals — using clean electrical energy thereby helping our climate too.

B1M has a video about the Rail Baltica:

https://youtu.be/spQ4v0Y2FfM?si=PmTaLt_JQY_2gewt

JigenDaisukeJr , (edited )
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@randahl despite the long history of trying now Baltics have a strong incentive - this railway is now not only for tourists and businesses, but for army logistics including Finland, Baltics and Poland too. This might help to finally reach agreement between parties.

pthenq1 ,
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Mirá @beckermatic , a vos que te gustan los ferrocarriles, lo vas a apreciar ⬆️⬆️

@randahl

hrw ,
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@randahl

I am waiting for Polish section of Rail Baltica to be finally decided.

The town I was born and lived for first 20 years of my life waits to see how it will go. The last train there was about 20 years ago and it looks like Rail Baltica will miss it by something like 20 km.

No wonder young people do not want to live there anymore.

berndchen ,
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@randahl
Das Problem ist, dass Finnland ebenfalls 1524 mm Spurweite hat.

klavsse ,
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@randahl they are not. Rail Baltica is a single, newly built line while the rest of the grid stays the same and well-connected to Putin's rail. There is not even a discussion that it might be changed (at least in Latvia) as the railway experts suppose that East is the only viable direction for Latvian rail

benfulton ,
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@randahl they're going to build a tunnel from Helsinki to Tallinn? That's more significant than anything else here I would think.

Skye ,
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@randahl I can tell you that the 1520 and 1524 have the benefit of smoother rides and a lot more room in the carriages.

randahl OP ,
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@Skye does just 9 centimetres really make that much of a difference?

Skye ,
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@randahl yes, 1435 quite a lot narrower and the difference is noticeable. I ride trains almost weekly. And these days preferred when traveling. You can go to your local trainstation and listen up. Then maybe watch a video or goto Estonia or Finland to see and hear 1520 and 1524 in action.

oneiros ,
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WindOfChange ,
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@randahl Only to think that 100y ago one could get on Nord Express train in Riga and get to Berlin or Paris. All this was shattered by occupation, 100y later we are not there yet.

hans_slonzok ,
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@randahl Clean electrical energy... in Poland... buahahaha... very funny

GhostOnTheHalfShell ,
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@randahl

This is payback for history like WWI and WWII. Stalin made a pact with Germany, which paved the way to its invasion of Poland in 1939. Hitler intended to wipe Poland from existence.

elala ,
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@randahl Wow 😊

osma ,
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@randahl
Helsinki: the public tunnel project is effectively dead. The private project was to be funded by Chinese money. Not much going on there, either. Ferries between Tallinn and Helsinki, single track 80kph rail to the cargo port only.

Rest of Finland: russian gauge. Just being locally compatible with European rolling stock would make it worthwhile to convert, IMO, but no funds for that investment exist.

randahl OP ,
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@osma can finish citizens make parliament suggestions like we can in Denmark, if 50,000 voters sign? (Borgerforslag)

osma ,
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@randahl
Yes, and there have been a couple of successful initiatives, but rail investment budgetary considerations are class of their own. There's a project for upgrading Helsinki-Turku, but that's legacy gauge etc.

NATO likely to have bigger impact - starting north. A logistics route Norway-Sweden-Finland sounds like something that could have a chance of happening..

timrichards ,
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@randahl @simonvarwell I'm hanging out for that railway to be built; hoping they'll have a sleeper service Berlin-Tallinn.

SimonCHulse ,
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@randahl saw this video yesterday. Fascinating.

threenotch ,

@randahl we can’t do that in America… (say it in a backwoods illiterate voice it makes more sense)

randahl OP ,
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@threenotch genuinely interested in the slang: When you say backwoods illiterate is that synonymous with hill Billy?

threenotch ,

@randahl yes at least that’s my intent here

_9CL7T9k8cjnD_ ,
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@randahl I'd love to do a train trip from Helsinki to Amsterdam.

smoothasarat ,
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@randahl
cool Id love to travel it

pmarrone ,
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@randahl will it be part of ? I’m wondering if my pass will bring me out there next time I’m in the EU? Dual citizen here.

martian_gangsta ,
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@randahl Not awesome at all. Russia will be the biggest economy and most democratic of the countries.

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bananabob ,
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@randahl There is also a tactical advantage to this. Russia can not send troops or supplies down those tracks when it invades that part of Europe.

teajaygrey ,
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@randahl using a standard gauge rail has many other benefits insomuch as many different vendors build trains to such standards.

BART, which is, arguably, the "best" mass transit system in the San Francisco Bay Area, uses a proprietary gauge rail.

It's so problematic as a result. The trains and passenger cars themselves, are manufactured out of state and imported, specifically to BART's specifications. The rails themselves, are notoriously noisy even with maintenance to try to reduce the wear and tear.

Meanwhile, Japan and China are full steam ahead with highspeed maglev rail systems, and Japan's already extant shinkansen is amazingly reliable and safe.

Californians did vote for highspeed rail with Prop 1A in 2008 which even mentioned maglev and was supposed to connect San Francisco and Los Angeles.

It's 2024 and not a single mile of track has been laid. The budget has basically been spent and it's far less ambitious than SF <-> LA and no mention of maglev anymore either. ;(

kevinrns ,
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@randahl

Putin, if logic can be applied to his psychological problems, kinda ruined their relationship with their oldest 'friend'

Finland is not only closing their border with Russia, they are CHANGING TRAIN TRACK SIZE, so Russian and Finnish trains cannot use each other tracks.

Finnish Trains CAN never go to Russia again.

Russian Trains CAN Never go to Finland again.

Holy yikes.

istartedi ,

@kevinrns @randahl Thanks for sending me down the rail gauge rabbit-hole

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_track_gauges#/media/File:World_RR_Gauge_Map.agr.png

randahl OP ,
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@istartedi that map explains part of the reason, Putin was tempted to attack Ukraine.
@kevinrns

kevinrns ,
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@randahl @istartedi

Well,, yes and no? Vermont isnt tempted to invade New Hampshire because they have the same gauge tracks.

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