wdlindsy ,
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"NBC — and most of the press — have yet to accept the reality that this is not a normal election between a Republican and a Democrat. Donald Trump and his enablers represent an extraordinary threat to democracy. This industry, which prizes objectivity above all else, is incapable of accurately covering an election where one candidate is a normal politician and the other is a dishonest, corrupt insurrectionist."

~ Dan Pfeiffer

https://www.messageboxnews.com/p/nbc-proves-that-the-media-cant-save

ubiquiti_fanatic ,
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@wdlindsy NBC is owned by Comcast, a publicly traded corporation beholden to shareholders and execs who want as much money as possible, they will do anything for those goals, nothing else matters to them.

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@wdlindsy
And we're living in a world where a politician who was fully aware of Israel killing civilians since early october, and still continued to arm them to this day, actively aiding a genocide, is considered 'normal'.

wdlindsy OP ,
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@determinerik I'd say we're living in a world in which powerful forces have made it well-nigh impossible for political leaders of either party to break from full-throttled support of Israel, though what Israel is now doing may, at long last, push at least many Democrats away from that full-throttled support. I'd also say anyone dreaming that Trump would offer a better alternative to what's happening with Israel-Gaza is deeply deluded, and attacking Biden only boosts Trump, so I refuse to do it.

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@wdlindsy

" This industry, which prizes objectivity above all else "

Maybe he's been asleep for the last ~30yrs, but if he'd bothered, he could have watched that idea falling apart, led by the truly odious Rupert Murdoch, who hasn't even the tiniest interest in 'objectivity'. All he's interested in is the most effective way to get more cash and division achieves exactly that.

wdlindsy OP ,
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@gsymon Perhaps by "prizes," he means something journalists claim to cherish while belying that claim by their actual practice?

LeaBug ,
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@wdlindsy it means we don't want to listen to a lying insurrectionist anymore.

wdlindsy OP ,
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@LeaBug Not sure what "it" is in your statement.

SpookieRobieTheCat ,
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@wdlindsy Journalism owned and operated by "entertainment" companies.

clintruin ,
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@SpookieRobieTheCat @wdlindsy
"entertainment propaganda"

call it "Entoprop".

wdlindsy OP ,
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@clintruin @SpookieRobieTheCat In very many cases, yes. I think this is why many of us have shifted from the traditional sources like newspapers or television news to commentary online that seems trustworthy and professional.

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@wdlindsy It's not so much that media "can't" save democracy. With few exceptions, they aren't even trying.

wdlindsy OP ,
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@PattyHanson Yes, I agree. They made that plain in 2016 and seem to have learned nothing from their mistakes then – because they do not want to learn.

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@wdlindsy
I appreciate you're just providing a quote, but I call BS on this framing that media "...prizes objectivity above all else"

What they prize is money and the largest audience possible. THAT is why they want to platform gas lighting rightwing lies. They want to broaden their audience.

If they cared about objectivity, there would be more fact-checking, bans on discredited sources and coverage as a battle of political systems not a horserace.

wdlindsy OP ,
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@TCatInReality My reading of what Dan Pfeiffer writes leads me to think he's not describing how media actually function when he uses the word "prizes" here, but is describing the aspirational claims of media, which media frequently belie by their actual behavior.

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  • wdlindsy OP ,
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    @philip_cardella Yes, I agree. I read him to be using the word "prize" here, he's describing what media folks want to believe about themselves, but what they frequently belie by their actual behavior.

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