I've seen a lot of people telling me that this story means they think #Biden is weak so they want him in the election. No...you're missing the goal here. What they are doing is declaring how they will conduct a coordinated lawfare campaign to screw the Democratic nominee.
Getting support to subversives within the GOP. People who will "accidentally" lose the power cords to voting machines in red states. Folks who will wonder how the state RNC office got flooded.
@Npars01 Pretty much the same I would imagine. They all want industry deregulation and with a generous donation (pronounced “bribe”) Trump would be only too happy to oblige.
@GottaLaff Replacing Biden at this stage is a fantasy, one that would produce all sorts of chaos even if the GOP weren’t trying to screw things up further.
@michaelgemar@GottaLaff Who cares about the party at this point? If Biden is on the ticket Trump is going to handily win.
The Supreme Court just gave Trump Carte Blanche for his next administration. Who cares about silly nomination rules? They need to turn heaven and earth to get someone else on that ticket in November.
@michaelgemar@GottaLaff You're living in fantasy land if you think most people of any group in the population are going to vote for Biden at this point. He's never getting a second term, it's over.
@GottaLaff I'm not concerned that Biden will give away classified secrets to Russian diplomats. I don't worry that Biden will give Putin license to dominate the EU. Biden has extremely competent staff, and he's not sending them out of the room when he talks to Putin. The whole concern seems to be that he'll do badly in a second debate and lose the undecideds, and I have a hard time taking that seriously as a reason to dump a President with a truly impressive record and a competent VP.
@GottaLaff I'm voting Biden, never wavered a second. If Joe thinks its time I would support him in that because I trust him but he is running, so I am voting for him. 1=1 no more logic needed.
But, one thing that really bothers me is that this isn't just GOP stuff. Right now, or 10 mins ago (old news?), the news is the debate and if he should withdraw, so that's what is being covered. Its being amplified because its news and not just by GOP. Even some who I did follow and did have some respect for seem to have amnesia suddenly about all the good that Biden has done and now its, oh, bad debate, its over. wtf. Its where the clicks are so they are giving it life which really makes me sad.
On the other hand, Meidas Touch, has stuck with the pro-democracy message. I rarely promote anyone/thing but I am going to sign up for their Patreon and I'm going to send Joe some money.
@GottaLaff
Goal: get Trump elected.
Means: reduce Biden support and/or increase Trump support.
Tactics: anything and everything that induces terror, apathy, or an inability to differentiate between candidates in moderate-left voters.
This country and world and NATO will survive even a Weekend at Biden’s presidency due to his VP and administration staffed with competent and constructive professionals.
@GottaLaff I believe that people want Bideon off the election because they know that Trump is such a weak candidate that they realize that is the only way they can win the election. Their only way to win is to be the only person on the ballot and have no write-ins allowed.
@GottaLaff. Ridiculous. If we're looking at two resumes, on Trump and One Biden, with successes and failures listed. With no knowledge of each of their ages, I believe more people (most) would hire Biden. But the mass media will distract and point things out for clicks and advertising revenue.
I dislike this timeline very much.
ya.. right now we are being deludged by a massive propaganda campaign by the RW and their foreign assets.... we are at war... and we are at lawfare and have neen since 2009....
@GottaLaff I wrote to the Frisch campaign just a bit ago informing them their candidate is not ready for prime time because to take him off the ballot now leaves us with no one in some states. No more money from me for a candidate willing to sabotage us all.
@GottaLaff The plan isn’t even a secret. It’s out in the open and we still have “liberal” media suggesting that Trump run against a write-in candidate. Unbelievable
@GottaLaff the purveyors of the dump Biden campaign are false flag gaslighters. They know it will leave the Democratic Presidency candidate off of many State ballots. Fake Democratic pundits and talking heads will say " we will take it to court to put a new candidate on the ballot". It will end up in the hands of the Historically Corrupt Roberts Court. Joe is the candidate or we surrender now. But do take note of the people asking him to step down, and never trust them again.
First it will be this lawsuit. In close order various Republican AG's will sue the DNC on behalf of their citizens "who voted in good faith in the Primary for Joe Biden." Then they will launch coordinated campaigns to split the Democratic coalition. "See how they are treating Kamala?" "Why didn't they think California's governor leading the 3rd largest economy in the world should be nominee." it will be relentless and targeted to get people to stay home.
Millions of dark money will go to third party candidates. Suddenly RFK Jr. will miraculously have the resources to get on every ballot...on and on and on.
They don't care who is on the ballot. They want us to spend time, money, and anger on each other and on defense so Trump simply strolls into the White House with 45% of the vote.
The Biden campaign needs to stop nevel gazing and get back in the fight. We all need to stop eating each other alive and remember the real enemy to our democracy is the one's cheering this on in Florida.
You really only need to worry about swing states controlled by Republicans - and even in those states they're not likely to want to deal with the outrage of trying to game the Democrats out of the Presidency in this fashion.
Wellman:
With respect you’re missing the point. Time is our enemy. All the have to do is drag their feet while Dems scramble and hire lawyers and fight. If you’ve learned nothing in the last 8 years, the Republicans don’t want a fair fight.
The only person who can, and will, decide whether Joe Biden drops out is Joe Biden.
I, personally, support Joe Biden as the Democratic nominee. I think calls for him to withdraw discount his first term’s successes, of which there are many. It also ignores some practical realities that cannot be overlooked a mere months away from Election Day.
@GottaLaff Laffy: Pres. Biden has had our back from the very beginning. So the least I can do is support his reelection. There’s only one choice here and that is to vote for Pres. Biden.
I don’t know who’s making these idiotic claims that Pres. Biden should dropout. There are also talk about the president finding another VP. That’s even more ridiculous. Some really need to chill out…
@rlstone4dems@GottaLaff I’m starting to feel skeptical of these reports. Coming from who? Joe Biden is my candidate unless he says otherwise, my support isn’t “cracking.” The disinformation campaign is in full swing.
And if it's going to be held against Biden that he did not do a good job countering Trump's constant stream of lies, then I can think of a whole heck of a lot of reporters, journalists and interviewers who also need to resign.
@SDParris@RuamiGrey@Muddobbers@GottaLaff I don’t understand why the Democrats don’t pull out all the “nice guy” stops and just run a major campaign initiative documenting all of Trumps lies. I mean really documenting with real backup supporting the truth. Take the top 10 lies and truths and put them on billboards, on TV, on social media, etc. Then do the next 10 and so on. What’s it going to take to get the Democrats to understand 1Biden will be the nominee and 2 it’s got to be all out war.
@GottaLaff if Biden loses in November, I won't blame him. I'll blame the media for amplifying one poor debate performance, & those in the Democratic party who are spreading doubt in the minds of the electorate by suggesting he step down and who are putting forward completely unviable alternatives. Shame on the Democrats for not remaining loyal to their president or their citizens who support him. And who won his goddam primaries.
@GottaLaff ah yes which is why I just read this headline from the WSJ: “Democratic Unity Starting To Crack in Wake of Biden’s Debate Performance.” We have to be really smart now and DON’T TAKE THE BAIT.
@GottaLaff Honest q - can Biden sustain a presidential campaign? The debate was pure anguish. Every other public appearance will be anxiety-causing, hoping he performs even just ok. Biden's a decent man and has done some good things during his first term...but I believe the Dems are sleepwalking the US (and indeed the west as a whole) to a theocratic autocracy.
@GottaLaff A comment by Biden's biographer that he believes he can "tough out any situation" (and his stubbornness) may in fact mar his decision-making.
Just read measured piece from David Corn that a Harris candidacy may - on balance - represent the lesser risk. Absolutely the christo-fascists are driving the theocracy bus BUT a Biden candidacy for a 2nd term embodies a huge inflection point for the US: who ultimately has the best shot at stopping Trump & the theocrats?
@NZedAUS@GottaLaff it ain't Kamala.Case in point, low info voter - my wife. She doesn't know who Kamala is. If you remind her - she'll remember, but other than that she'll draw a blank.
She's voting for Biden and hasn't heard about debates. When I explained it to her, she responded with "who cares".
That's the type of voter you'll alienate the moment you replace Biden with literally anyone else.
@hu_logic@GottaLaff a sample of 1 is kind of courageous to then draw an assumption for a majority of voters. Personally, I think Whitmer is the best Dem on the bench but low national profile. Equally, by running with Biden you suppress young voter enthusiasm, donors.
@NZedAUS@GottaLaff not trying to run a poll here, simply pointing out a sizeable cohort of voters you'd have to make up for.
And guess what? If MSM can't reach them - nobody can. These voters will see replacement as a clusterfuck in the party and just stay home instead of voting for someone they don't recognize.
@GottaLaff@DemocracyMattersALot I am just sick right now watching all this unfold, especially how many cannot see this for what it is, a classic psyop move meant to do one thing, destabilize. SMH