PugJesus ,
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... what an awful opening to a book without the annotation (which makes it a masterpiece). I feel less bad about my own writing now.

SpaceCowboy ,
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I vaguely recalled there was a movie in the 90s about this and I couldn't remember if it was Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise in it (it was) so I googled it. Interview with the Vampire. Also found out Kirsten Dunst played the child mentioned in that paragraph.

And apparently there's a show now running on Netflix based on this shit, because of course there is.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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Honestly, the original Interview With the Vampire novel isn't terrible. It's nothing profound, but it isn't terrible. This sequel, however, god-awful. I gave up after about four chapters.

BeMoreCareful ,

Was this the second? The vampire least? I remember liking it, but I was fourteen.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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Yes, The Vampire Lestat. It was popular when I was in high school too, but I didn't read it until my 20s and that little added pencil preface is incredibly accurate.

The novel starts with him being awakened from his vampiric slumber by hearing rock music and he joins a band. I wish I was making that up. Thankfully it then went into a flashback, but it was still not worth continuing to read such nonsense.

A7thStone ,

I made it all the way to The Vampire Armand before I gave up. They just continuously got worse.

SpaceCowboy ,
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Yeah, I remember I enjoyed the movie well enough at the time. But it was before movies and TV shows got over-saturated with vampires.

And if I'm going to watch a 90's vampire movie it's going to be Coppola's Dracula movie because it was iconic in it's weirdness.

CptEnder ,

Ann Rice made a dynasty out of her Lestat books and honestly they're better than most serials in the genre, but yeah still pretty mid. Interview With a Vampire definitely is the best.

w2tpmf , (edited )

The paragraph shown isn't from Interview with the Vampire. That story isnt told by Lestat.

It's from Queen of the Damned. There was also a movie made from that. It stared Aaliyah and actually came out after her death.

Edit: I stand corrected, it's from the book after QotD.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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No, it's from The Vampire Lestat, the second book in the stupid series.

Gloomy ,

I read the series as far as it went back then when I was a teen and even then I oupd notice the quality diving deeper and deeper with each book

w2tpmf ,

It's not.

David Talbot isn't introduced until Queen of the Damned

Also, The Vampire Lestat starts out in France in the 1700s.

In the winter of my twenty-first year, I went out alone on horseback to kill a pack of wolves.

This was on my father's land in the Auvergne in France, and these were the last decades before the French Revolution.

SpaceCowboy ,
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Yeah I remember seeing Queen of the damned, but don't remember anything about it haha. It's been a long time and it's not a thing I'm all that into.

kogasa ,
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Pretty sure that movie was terrible with an awesome soundtrack

w2tpmf ,

Correct

CptEnder ,

Late 90s early 00s were the wild fuckin west of electronica and awesome cross-genre like r&b and hardcore. The movie is terrible, but in a good way. The soundtrack does indeed slam.

qarbone ,

Any, uh...context for that "a child vampire with a woman's mind and an angel's face" bit? Or just the gross Lolita nonsense on its face?

wizardbeard ,

Pretty sure it's a reference to a character in the first book of the Interview with a Vampire series. Lestat's partner struggles with his remaining humanity, and can't allow a little girl to die in some historical fire in New Orleans, so he turns her. This also gives them both fulfillment in terms of a child to raise, until the child becomes a willful young adult stuck in a prepubescent body.

Thankfully she's nobody's victim, she is a coldhearted little murder machine. On its face it doesn't read like creepy pedo material, but it is awkward as hell. Probably intentionally so.

Wandering_Uncertainty ,

I think it's absolutely intentional. It feels like it's written by and targetted towards people who are viscerally repulsed by pedophilia.

It's creating a situation that feels like absolute horror, and using that revulsion to help sell the horror. This centuries old mind, trapped in a child's body, unable to properly experience things like sexually and romance, continually on the outside of everything, treated like a child despite her age and abilities...

If I remember correctly, she ends up being this extremely bitter murdering monstrosity, out of rage and spite over her existence. Despite her angelic, innocent face, she's the most evil of the lot. Partly because she doesn't even have the option of interacting with humans properly, and even most vampires treat her poorly.

And all because a character had a moment of moral panic, of pity for a poor child. A desire to do the right thing.

It's awful. And it's supposed to be.

qarbone ,

That sounds about appropriate for the situation. Too many works brush it off as "ha, they look young but not young".

sigmaklimgrindset ,
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"Centuries old mind stuck in child vampire body is actually a killing machine and the whole situation is deeply uncomfortable for everyone involved" is the context. Not anime loli bullshit.

Contravariant ,

That sure sounds like anime loli bullshit.

sigmaklimgrindset ,
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Well, it's still Anne Rice.

But as far as I remember, one tries to fuck Claudia. In fact, I think Louis explicitly stated it was fucked up and not happening when she tried to come onto him. Which is much better than most "My Little Sister Is Too Cute" shit (yes that's an actual anime)

AEsheron ,

Is that the one with the tooth brush scene?

RampantParanoia2365 ,

Well, you do understand vampires are part of the horror genre, yeah?

qarbone ,

The others were actual answers so they're cool. But your response is almost a non-sequitur.

Have you structured all the media you consume so that all themes stay consistent to a single genre? Ok, all the vampires go in horror, but do the werewolves go in horror too?

You'll have to fight fantasy hard for that one.

RampantParanoia2365 ,

What? Yes, they go in horror fantasy, as neither of them exist in reality. The point is Interview with a Vampire explores disturbing themes. Because it's a horror story.

qarbone ,

Ah, horror fantasy! You're saying that we can mix and combine genres!

Hmm, are there rules to these combinations? Or can you just mix any of them together both willy and nilly?

Could you combine, say, vampires from the "horror" camp and ill-fated relationships from team "romance" like some literal, literary Romeo & Juliet? Would that not be a "Twilight"? Or would that be more "romance" than "horror"?

frezik ,

I have no idea what book this is, but I already want to throttle the author from this bit alone.

Twinklebreeze ,

The Vampire Lestat. Either the second or third book in the Interview with the Vampire series. I never made it past the first page.

kerobaros ,

That's actually the start of The Tale of the Body Thief (1992), fourth book in the series.

Twinklebreeze ,

I'm so sorry for speeding misinformation. I thought there was no way that another book in the series was so stupid. I shouldn't have assumed

rob_t_firefly ,
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Anne Rice could always be depended upon to bring that particular flavor of stupid which seems deep when you're 14 and stupid.

w2tpmf ,

Oh dang I think you're right. I thought it was the start of QotD.

ElJefe ,

My favourite of the series

roguetrick ,

She's dead, so it would take some logistics.

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BabyVi ,

Midway through there's a cutout coupon for bath products, apparently used as a bookmark.

RememberTheApollo_ ,

Hey, don’t forget to check out my other video, Interview and I’m working on a new one called Queen of the Damned, I’ll be working with Louis from Interview again! Please like and definitely subscribe for updates on our immortal adventures!

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De_Narm ,

I didn't think you could modernize a whole book with one sentence, but here we are.

HootinNHollerin , (edited )

Wonder if they bookended it with another on the last page, ‘like and subscribe’

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