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Gradually_Adjusting , in Reminiscing about the "Reddit migration"
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Happy to be here. It'll be interesting to see how it grows, but I'm happy with it being a smaller crowd for now. Feels like I have many more pleasant and meaningful chats on here than I ever did on Reddit.

polskilumalo , in Reminiscing about the "Reddit migration"
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Hahaha I remember that shitshow! Hexbear dunking on reactionaries and their federation were especially fun times! Oh and the lemmy.world "preemptive last resort"! Good times, either way I'm glad other instances exist besides the containment one of world. Love to have you guys here.

And to think I've been on lemmygrad since GenZedong got quarantined. Holy shit it's been a while.

Nakoichi ,
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Fuckin cowards of .world preemptively blocked us and we still live rent free in their heads.

also we banned the mods of db0 but stayed federated which is extremely funny.

polskilumalo ,
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Nakoichi , in Reminiscing about the "Reddit migration"
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jaagruk , in Federated Blogging Platforms

Writefreely?

sabreW4K3 OP ,
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What is it or why am I looking for an alternative?

jaagruk ,

Did not readed full post, sorry.

sabreW4K3 OP ,
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No worries. I appreciate the thought. Thanks for trying to help.

ajsadauskas , in Federated Blogging Platforms
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@sabreW4K3 Plume doesn't appear to be active, unfortunately 🥺

There's a notice on the official Join Plume website saying the former developers don't have the time to maintain it anymore. Most of the former public instances now throw up errors of various kinds.

WriteFreely ( @writefreely ) is alive and well. I was seriously toying with the idea of setting up a blog through its main instance, which is called Write.as Professional. The sticking point for me was that the official on-platform monetisation tool (Coil) appears to be dead, and doesn't support members-only posts (like Ghost).

Ghost, when federation goes live, looks like it will be the best option for my blog.

WordPress plus @pfefferle 's plugins is another great option, depending on what you want to use it for. (There's no shortage of WP plugins!)

As for Lemmy, I could see a blogging-focussed front end being created for it, in the same way FediBB put a traditional message board front end on it, but one doesn't appear to exist at present.

sabreW4K3 OP ,
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It's a real shame about Plume. I actually saw that notice on the Plume website, but thought as long as I can get it up and running, it can't be so bad.

I've spent the best part of this week trying to get WriteFreely up and running locally as I just want to host a couple blogs without having to agree to let LLMs harvest my musings, but alas, WriteFreely doesn't work with Docker and the community is MIA.

Ghost was something I was excited about but it only allows one blog per instance, so it's not even worth getting excited about the upcoming federation implementation.

WordPress as a company are happy to get into bed with LLMs, so I'm holding them at arms length.

As for Lemmy, it's far too cumbersome and not adept at blogging. But it's an amazing link aggregator.

palordrolap , in Federated Blogging Platforms

There's also a Fediverse plugin for WordPress if you already have a host. Caveat: I have only seen it on Fediverse directories. No idea whether it's any good.

sabreW4K3 OP ,
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I hear all this talk about WordPress, but at the same time, they're selling users' content to AI, so I don't want to continue to use them.

LunarLoony ,
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Is there a source for this? I have a WordPress blog but been tempted to switch to a different platform due to bloat.

sabreW4K3 OP ,
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LunarLoony ,
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Thanks. Looks like it's only affecting Wordpress.com for now. We'll see if it trickles down to .org too

GravitySpoiled , in dansup: "An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok …" - Mastodon

Wow!

I hope it's like peertube that people can share bandwidth?

poVoq ,
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Since Pixelfed already supports that, I would assume yes.

Ziggurat , in dansup: "An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok …" - Mastodon

As much as I find the idea great. The killer feature of TikTok is how easy it is to publish a video with filters and musics. Not sure how well a federated application can follow.
Then, there is TikTok algorithm which is a common critic of the app but is how you get a never-ending flow of content which isn't uninteresting enough for you to turn the app off

0x1C3B00DA ,
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Then, there is TikTok algorithm which is a common critic of the app but is how you get a never-ending flow of content which isn't uninteresting enough for you to turn the app off

I think there needs to be some kind of discovery algorithm for new users with an empty feed (or even existing users who just wanna find something new) but a federated alternative doesn't need something as powerful as the tiktok algorithm to be a decent replacement. It doesn't need to surface a "never-ending flow of content" because it doesn't have a financial incentive to keep you in the app endlessly.

deadlyremote , in dansup: "An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok …" - Mastodon
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Nice! Excited to see what this looks like

JoYo , in IFTAS Launches Moderator Resource Portal
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hopefully this doesn’t become itself a platform for brigades as all the others have.

notnotmike , in An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok alternative, made by pixelfed has just successfully tested federation.
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I have concerns about the success of this platform. I am convinced what makes TikTok great isn't necessarily the algorithm (its good, no doubt) but the volume of content. There are so many users producing content that the amount of content you find enjoyable is always more than you could scroll through in a day.

A platform like this will be boring pretty fast when you scroll through the 100 new videos uploaded that day in an single hour, and you skip many of them. It's tough to generate enough content without enough users, and most of the content will likely just be aggregated from the other short-form sites. Of course that's not necessarily a bad thing, it's a more privacy-friendly way to browse that content, which is a plus.

Also, not particularly a fan of more brain-rotting short form content. It's crazy how addictive it is and I'm wanting less, not more. But if I had to choose a "shorts" platform I'd sure like a federated, free one to be the one to succeed. But it's got a long way to go

muntedcrocodile ,

I recon bots that are scraping other platforms content might be a way to get things going. What we need to be doing across all federated media is make it profitable for all the content creators to post to federated media as well as mainstream bs. Perhaps we need a standardised donations model I would recommend monero as the currency totally anonymous proven to be a relatively stable currency, and its easy for anyone to implement without all the bureaucratic bs.

NuclearDolphin ,

Would be nice if it would pull short vids from PeerTube or other fedi platforms.

Never really used tiktok, partially because I don't get addicted to video like I do reading text. Video is too slow for my ADHD brain, and you can't choose your content beforehand.

But I'd still pick up this platform to help it get traction.

spaduf ,
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Seems like an essential feature to me. Curious to see if it'll be in the beta.

Sean ,
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@notnotmike @yogthos the addictive characteristic of Tiktok isn't about a massive amount of quality, but quantity hidden among mid quality content. Just all grade-A content wouldn't set off the dopamine that getting dud, after dud, after dud, jackpot, dud again, dud, dud, dud, dud, maybe jackpot no, dud, dud, dud... is a clear path to dopamine

Much like a slot machine, the algorithm can intersperse jackpot and near jackpot amongst mostly dud content that makes it very addictive.

Hexadecimalkink , in An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok alternative, made by pixelfed has just successfully tested federation.

Did peerfed ever figure out the bandwidth issues? Is there a way this can scale?

strypey ,
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@Hexadecimalkink
> Did peerfed ever figure out the bandwidth issues? Is there a way this can scale?

If this is the PeerFed you meant, I'm guessing the answer to both these questions is 'no';

"This paper has been archived and no longer reflects the author's current thinking."

https://github.com/joshdoman/peerfed-paper

Although I do find this concept intriguing;

"The system consists of two convertible assets, interest-bearing cash and a paid-in-kind perpetual bond."

https://github.com/joshdoman/peerfed-paper/blob/main/peerfed.pdf

@yogthos

Hexadecimalkink ,

Sorry, i meant the video sharing one. I forgot the name. Thanks for sharing this though!

strypey , in An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok alternative, made by pixelfed has just successfully tested federation.
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@yogthos
> An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok alternative, made by pixelfed has just successfully tested federation.

The loops.video announcement by @dansup is here;

https://mastodon.social/@dansup/112569573022384441

dameoutlaw , in Federated Blogging Platforms
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So weird that no one mentioned https://micro.blog/
Which only after Mastodon was the second platform to adopt ActivityPub.

sabreW4K3 OP ,
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I can't find anything regarding self-hosting this

Old_Geezer ,
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Is it closed source? What are the community rules? Beside the obvious content being not allowed, does it censor political speech? Define what is considered hate speech, etc?

sabreW4K3 , in fediverse platform for a schools community network
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Frendica

geoma OP ,

Is friendica appealing for teenagers? does the UX feel modern/polished? (this is non relevant for me, but sadly for teens it is so important)

Psych ,

Wait you know teenagers who use Facebook ?

geoma OP ,

not really

Psych ,

You wrote in your post the people you wanted to introduce it to is using Instagram and Facebook and now you said here those people are teenagers .

geoma OP ,

some adults still use fb. I doubt there are students that use fb. they mostly use ig.

sabreW4K3 ,
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It's because you mentioned Facebook, I thought Friendica would be a good like for like.

geoma OP ,

Ah ok I see... Yes, some adults still use fb but most people use IG...

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