Encourage cross posting. The function is viable, and when it's used, it not only improves each community individually, it keeps awareness of other options.
The only thing "killing activity" is people nodding being unaware of cross posting existing and/or using it.
Crossposts don't aggregate comments. If you ask "How was your father's day" on 7 dad communities, you are going to split the answers across the 7 communities.
Look, we obviously have a difference in philosophy of the fediverse here.
So, let me back up a second and explain that.
The fediverse should be about communities being disparate. No single instance, no single mod or admin owning an idea, or the consequent community that forms around an idea. Part of why reddit became so horrible was the inability to have a viable alternative community around a subject when one went off the rails because someone had total control over a word, like "parenting", or "knives" or "gaming".
The more you consolidate communities, the more you give fewer entities control of a idea/concept/subject.
Comment aggregation is nice, if all you want is a single feed to scroll through, but the price of it is too high.
You seem to be posting from time to time to !metal. Where is the alternative community on another instance you crosspost to?
Part of why reddit became so horrible was the inability to have a viable alternative community around a subject when one went off the rails because someone had total control over a word, like “parenting”, or “knives” or “gaming”.
Hm, I'm not sure you are aware, but I am among the ones pushing for
So I am indeed aware of what you are saying, and I agree to an extend.
But as I said, you still need a minimum amount of activity to keep a community, alternative or not, active. Dads and parents communities aren't active anywhere on Lemmy yet, so it's more important now to first identify people, and then allow them to move or split.
Star Trek communities seems to coexist and be active enough because the topic is popular enough among the Lemmy population. It's not the case for every topic.
Ummmm, welllll, I don't actually post much to any other metal communities because they tend to have different rules for posting, and different people. This is one of those things where I'm a bad example of the "advice" I'm giving. I'm not a big poster anywhere. Wasn't on reddit either tbh. I genuinely wish I could find the same "vibe" as the .world metal C/ that was also friendly to direct YouTube links. There's a couple of good metal communities on lemmy, but they tend to dislike the YouTube links, or you catch hell for it from other users lol. It's one of those where I'm not following my own beliefs because it screws up other people's flow.
I get where you're coming from about needing minimum activity to make a subject matter to build a true community. I even agree, it's consolidating the smaller ones into a central one and hoping it can split up later rather than just disintegrating after some schism in the user base that I object to on a meta level.
I just think that spreading awareness of the various communities and encouraging crosstalk is a better long term goal.
Also, I hope that my word choices and phrasing don't come off aggro or with ill intent. I've been reminded that tone isn't conveyed well via text today with an unrelated chat away from lemmy. Since there's been a few points where I might have taken my own words wrong, just want to clarify that if this was in person, my tone would be friendly and you'd see me smiling at someone that's wanting to build good community.
Also, I hope that my word choices and phrasing don’t come off aggro or with ill intent. I’ve been reminded that tone isn’t conveyed well via text today with an unrelated chat away from lemmy. Since there’s been a few points where I might have taken my own words wrong, just want to clarify that if this was in person, my tone would be friendly and you’d see me smiling at someone that’s wanting to build good community
Having it spread over 7 communities kills activity rather than keeping 1 community alive.
Having three dad communities on lemmy.world is weird and needs sorting out but one of the advantages of subject-specific instances is that they can give a different spin to a topic.
On English-speaking social media, it all tends to become very US-centric - the UK (and, presumably, Canadian, and, hypothetically, an Australian one) allows for people to have more local discussion as the logistics (schools, benefits, the legal system, etc) can be very different.
By the same token, I wouldn't want all the other dad communities merged into the feddit.uk one (which is the most active, despite the Mod being AWOL, which is easily fixed) as it isn't just a general dad's discussion, although all dad's are welcome, of course.
That's why I try to keep both !yurop and !casualconversation active, while they have more or less the same topics.
Some communities are made to be "Internet inclusive", some other are more "location grounded"
I guess sometimes the Lemmy population is not large enough to have "location grounded" communities, so it might be better to merge into the "all inclusive" one
Last point: as a non-native European, I never really paid attention to the English-speaking social media being very US-centric, hopefully that's a bias we can correct here on Lemmy.
Lemmy.world is the biggest instance and managed by a team located (at least partially) in the Netherlands, so that's a nice change compared to Reddit
Last point: as a non-native European, I never really paid attention to the English-speaking social media being very US-centric, hopefully that’s a bias we can correct here on Lemmy.
I'm working on it. And there are Canadian and Australian instances doing their bit too.
I know, and that's great! Lemm.ee, feddit.de, feddit.dk, feddit.it and all the others are great!
But on that topic, that still brings us to the question of "should an instance with a country TLD be limited to content of that country?"
Someone on Lemmy.ca brought that point up a few days back:
A sort of related more general comment. For the sake of my Local feed, I wish Lemmy.ca was only human-created Canada-centric content. That’s why I signed up to the lemmy.ca instance. A couple week’s prior to this community’s creation there was an influx of bot-run communities. I blocked them, because I don’t want to see 15 Cool Guide or Reddit-based Nostalgia posts in my Local feed, displacing human-created Canada-centric content. It’s not a perfect solution though, because I wouldn’t mind seeing those posts on my All feed. I know from community growth and server cost perspectives it doesn’t make sense to limit who or what can be posted (beyond blocking hate speech and other obviously objectionable material). I wish I could have multiple Subscribed feeds. In lieu of that, maybe I should choose another instance based on Local feed appeal and port Lemmy.ca communities that I like to my subscribed feed
So that comes back to the point I mentioned above. When I created !yurop on lemm.ee, it was obvious that it wasn't going to be limited to Estonians.
However, when a community is created on feddit.uk, it can be centered on a local approach to a thematic (such as !nature ). Which is great, but as I said, we are probably still very early in the stage of having different dad communities on Lemmy, so having mainly one (whatever instance it is on) might be more effective for activity
Sorry I missed this, but, of course! I think that the dataisbeautiful community would be a good fit. I will try to deal with the federation issues as soon as possible.
@Beaver and @ElCanut, you seem to be the most regular posters of this type of content, what to you think about this idea of a new initiative on mander.xyz?
My opinion about this is that the fediverse seems a bit quiet recently, and maybe it would be better to stay on an instance and accept their default rather than creating a new one.
But hey, fediverse also means decentralization, so it might be worth a shot, I'll try to post in both communities and see what happens.
Is there someplace where I could find more information about mander admins ? I don't want to have the same debate in 3 months because there is a problem with their moderation policy
Modlog is a limited way of knowing the admins values. I really hope one day we'll have cooperative owned servers, but in the meantime we can only speculate and hope the admins will behave reliably
Indeed, but it seems that nowadays people are comfortable calling out power tripping admins, so as nothing has been reported about mander.xyz, they seem fine
Here's all you need to know about if you should consolidate. In general, every single topic will be best suited towards having one centralized community (Lemmy gasps!). To me the power of Lemmy isn't that it IS a series of seperate instances that can interconnect. To me the power of Lemmy is that it CAN BE a series of seperate instances that can interconnect.
And here's the difference. Dad@place.extention is a hypothetical example. Lets say it becomes active, and the mods there get big britches. Well.........maybe they enact some policy that 40% of the community there do not agree with.
They are free to create Dadstuff@otherinstance.someextention. They can create the instance THEY want. With THEIR rules.
But until that hand is forced, why split the communities?
I'll see about pinning a message next time I'm on Desktop, to redirect anyone that is looking there. The old community wasn't getting that many new posts already
Hello, welcome here! Nothing too specific, there are a few topics in the community that might interest you, such as "how to deal with being the only one posting to a community: https://lemmy.ml/post/14929885?scrollToComments=true
There might be a few others around, feel free to have a look!
Biggest achievement is probably !dataisbeautiful. Activity is very high: 1.82k active users, the community isn't even one week old. I'll keep posting there regularly, the topic seems very popular and has potential.
Started posting to !parenting, I'm probably going to define daily threads to get some "organized" activity.
Still keeping !linux, the weekly thread should help with getting more activity.
Honestly, I'd kind of like to create a niche community (or two) but wouldn't really know where to start. I still follow some smaller subs from Reddit, but I feel like there just wouldn't be any user engagement over here (if I tried to start one here), considering how small they are in the first place.
Anyway, I think it's amazing how fast you were able to grow !dataisbeautiful in less than a week!
One of them, r/startpages, I tried to start a community on kbin.social, but it really never caught on. Maybe I should have posted more, which might have encouraged others to post. It was actually pretty active on Reddit, with 20k subscribers, but once the API fiasco hit last year, they decided to close down the sub and move to kbin, which obviously didn't catch on, so the whole community died.
!electricvehicles is doing well, as is !avs. I would like more content over at !selfhosted but it's organic and that will come in time. Football is a dilemma because there's no moderator there, so even when I check it out, there's six old posts stuck there. Other than that, I'm kinda just floating around. I probably need to mods for some of the communities that @sabreW4K3 moderates.
Football is a dilemma because there’s no moderator there, so even when I check it out, there’s six old posts stuck there.
There is a mod, they pinned my post about the prediction post. If you see 6 posts pinned, that's probably an issue federation, you can ask the mod to pin/unpin them to unstuck them.
!animation is doing pretty well. Last couple of weeks I have started getting other people posting so I'm not feeling as pressured to find something to post every day. There was also a lot of news to share due to the recent Annecy festival. Now that it's over, the associated subscriber growth has slowed down a little bit, but I do have some ideas to have more discussion and conversation starters rather than mostly just news all the time.
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