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Butterpaderp , in We are now at 48,859 monthly active users vs 51,172 a month ago, decline seems slow but steady. Anything we can do about it?

Wait until reddit shoots itself in the foot some more.

The Valve strategy.

canis_majoris ,
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The problem is that the average user on Reddit doesn't give a fuck about the ways the platform is shooting itself in the foot, because it's still functional, has a critical mass of users, and is still the de facto online global discussion forum.

Lemmy doesn't serve the function well enough because there are not enough of a variety of users driving niche topics. It's the same dozen topics I see every day. Star Trek memes, Linux discourse, data breach reports, stupid bullshit about Musk, incredibly biased political content and straight up propaganda; it gets extremely tiring to see the same stuff over and over knowing that's just what the current userbase enjoys discussing. It also doesn't help that the development team tacitly endorses the extremist propaganda spreading behavior on their server. You can go check mod and vote logs and see the development team actively encouraging all of this destructive behavior across the fediverse.

Blaze OP ,

Star Trek memes, Linux discourse, data breach reports, stupid bullshit about Musk, incredibly biased political content and straight up propaganda; it gets extremely tiring to see the same stuff over and over

Agreed, it's tiring, that's why I recommend blocking all of these.

Then stuff like !gardening or !map_enthusiasts starts to show up

canis_majoris ,
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Okay but the thing is, I like most of the Star Trek memes, Linux discourse, and data breach reports, as well as tech and environmental news.

Unfortunately, all of that stuff is literally inherently political, so you end up with massive biases depending on who is posting. We can't just divorce the concept of data breaches being carried out by state actors. We can't divorce Musk from the tech world (or the world in general) no matter how much we want to. We can't divorce the intersect between the trade and manufacturing conditions of China with the impact it has on the transition to renewable resources and electric vehicles.

If I start blocking everybody with a political bias I will have blocked literally all the major contributors on the platform. Everybody posting en masse has some kind of agenda, and that's usually fine. I enjoy seeing most of schizoidman's posts, but I know his bias is clearly towards the Chinese, as the majority of his posts clearly frame them in a positive light, with some of the content literally just being propaganda. If I block him, I block a considerable amount of EV news coming into the site, biased or not.

It's just not feasible to avoid politics here, unless you basically don't want to use the platform.

Blaze OP ,

Thank you for your comment.

That's interesting, because I'm not blocking people, I'm blocking communities. A few examples:

You get the idea. So then, even if someone has a very strong political opinion, I don't miss their posts on !gardening

Daxtron2 , in We are now at 48,859 monthly active users vs 51,172 a month ago, decline seems slow but steady. Anything we can do about it?

A lot of users being centralized on Lemmy.ml doesn't help, lot of toxicity comes from there and you can't just block the instance unless you also want to lose a lot of content in your feed

Blaze OP ,

Most of the .ml communities have a .world equivalent that is usually more active, but I see your point

Anticorp , in Who do you think would be a good candidate to do an AMA on Lemmy?

Linus Torvalds

Edit: alternatively, Bram Cohen

If it's for Hexbear or ML instances then I guess fuckin Putin, or Xi.

threelonmusketeers Mod ,

Most people know Bram Cohen as the creator of BitTorrent, but I'd love to chat with him about twisty puzzles.

FigMcLargeHuge , in Who do you think would be a good candidate to do an AMA on Lemmy?

George Takei would be good.

threelonmusketeers Mod ,

He's on Mastodon! @georgetakei

Off-topic, but when I searched for him, my phone autocorrected "Takei" to "Naked". Oh my...

CaptDust , in Who do you think would be a good candidate to do an AMA on Lemmy?

Woody Harrelson, but it better be about Rampart.

dumbass ,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

He also better start a new post to reply to a question noone knows.

Anticorp ,

I just want to hear him talking about Natural Born Killers

captainlezbian , in Who do you think would be a good candidate to do an AMA on Lemmy?

The guy who does technology connections

dumbass , in Who do you think would be a good candidate to do an AMA on Lemmy?
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

Colm Meaney, or as most of you would know him as Chief Of Operations Miles O'Brien

Blaze OP ,

He would definitely fit!

brb , in We are now at 48,859 monthly active users vs 51,172 a month ago, decline seems slow but steady. Anything we can do about it?

The constant spam of murica politics, linux evangelists and the lack of niche communities have almost made me stop using lemmy. Almost because there just isn't any alternatives.

Blaze OP ,

I blocked those two topics a while ago. Feed has improved

brb ,

How did you block politics?

Blaze OP ,

By blocking related communities

Beaver , in We are currently around 50k monthly active users. What do you think could lead to the next newcomers wave?
@Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

One major thing I miss from Reddit was the powerful search bar that I had with old reddit+res.

Blaze ,

Hopefully now that plugins can be developed this will be fixed

Emperor , in Potential benefits of consolidating communities? (Harry Potter example)
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!harrypotter is very small, but European. (Might feddit.uk be an option?)

As we can't move or merge communities, I don't think starting another HP community somewhere like feddit.uk will help.

threelonmusketeers OP Mod ,

Yeah, good point. Creating another sub could exacerbate the problem.

Emperor ,
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Worth keeping in mind for the future though when you might be able to move or consolidate communities.

The most important thing though is getting some active Mods involved. The most active communities will then be able to thrive and they others can be quietly forgotten about.

threelonmusketeers OP Mod , in Potential benefits of consolidating communities? (Harry Potter example)
Blaze ,

Hey,

Thanks for posting this!

There could definitely be some consolidation. I mod !harrypotter, the community hasn't been that active recently, mostly I think because the Lemmy demographic may have moved on from that universe.

The diagonlemmy seem to have gotten some traction with their memes, that's nice to see

otter ,
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Regarding literature.cafe as an instance

https://literature.cafe/post/7623713

Blaze ,

Yes, I'm well aware of this too.

I don't mind if the instance moves to Piefed or Sublinks in the future, the communities would still be accessible from Lemmy

otter ,
@otter@lemmy.ca avatar

Oh I completely misread the earlier comment

mostly I think because the Lemmy demographic may have moved on from that universe.

I read it as "from that instance" being literature.cafe, rather than "universe" being the Harry Potter universe

My bad, and yes agreed

Blaze ,

No worries!

threelonmusketeers OP Mod ,

Ah, I hadn't seen that post. Should we consider the instance as abandoned/fragile? Or just biding its time until Sublinks is ready? (not necessarily a bad thing, given that Sublinks should still federate)

Emperor ,
@Emperor@feddit.uk avatar

Should we consider the instance as abandoned/fragile? Or just biding its time until Sublinks is ready?

Unless the Admin gets fed up in the meantime, I lean towards the second interpretation - they are tired of Lemmy, not the Fediverse.

threelonmusketeers OP Mod ,

Makes sense. I am somewhat concerned with their inactivity on Lemmy, but I suppose we shouldn't consider the instance abandoned just yet.

Emperor ,
@Emperor@feddit.uk avatar

I am somewhat concerned with their inactivity on Lemmy

Yeah, that's not good but there are three Admins for the instance so, even if they were sick of running it, the instance should carry on.

Emperor ,
@Emperor@feddit.uk avatar

mostly I think because the Lemmy demographic may have moved on from that universe.

Also I doubt JK Rowling is helping, especially in the Fediverse which leans left and LGBTQ+ friendly.

Blaze ,

Definitely

brbposting ,

Thanks. Great issue to try to tackle, will give it thought myself!

Wish we had a consolidator tool that suggested multisubs for us to browse as perhaps the default / most obvious behavior for new users too.

GBU_28 , in Potential benefits of consolidating communities? (Harry Potter example)

This is just a call to centralize power. Authoritarian thought.

Blaze ,

It is more about keeping a few communities alive rather than having dozens of ghost towns giving new joiners the impression that Lemmy is empty

GBU_28 ,

The post rate per unit time would be unchanged, and you can subscribe to as many channels as you want.

All this does is conglomerate who is in control.

I would say sharing the "partner" or "sibling" communities in the sidebar would be great.

I'd also say letting users make custom macro/multi communities, at the per user level is totally fine too, as that's just aggregating your feed.

But separate but equal instance moderation is a key feature of Lemmy, imo. The more the better.

Blaze ,

The post rate per unit time would be unchanged

Instead of having 1 post per month on 3 communities, you would have 3 posts on 1 community

you can subscribe to as many channels as you want.

New joiners just want to subscribe to one community per topic. New posters want to post to the one active community.

But separate but equal instance moderation is a key feature of Lemmy, imo. The more the better.

There is probably a balance to find between decentralization and activity. Having 50 users of one topic spread across 50 communities is maximum decentralization, but probably the worst for activity

threelonmusketeers OP Mod ,

The post rate per unit time would be unchanged, and you can subscribe to as many channels as you want.

Not everyone does subscribe to every duplicate community on all instances though, and this affects the number of comments each post gets.

Unless some way to federate comments between multi-communities is implemented, having multiple communities on the same topic on different instances contributes to Lemmy seeming more dead than it is.

GBU_28 ,

Skill issue

nutomic , in Potential benefits of consolidating communities? (Harry Potter example)
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This is a good idea I theory so that these small communities gain more activity by being merged into a larger one. But the question is how to actually do it in practice. Many of these small communities are essentially abandoned, with mods that havent posted in months (or never posted at all). The only option is then to have admins of each community instance help with the migration.

threelonmusketeers OP Mod ,

Yeah, if we do this, we'll probably have to contact the admins, as I haven't heard from most of the moderators. In some cases (like diagonlemmy.social), the admin seems to be AWOL as well...

WamGams , in We are now at 48,859 monthly active users vs 51,172 a month ago, decline seems slow but steady. Anything we can do about it?

Stop harassing and brigading people who support Israel.

Stop turning every thread into discussion of how much liberals are genocidal fascists.

threethan ,

I am of the opinion that we should not, in fact, welcome genocidal fascists.

If you disagree with the majority opinion on this matter, you may create or join an instance which does not federate with the majority.

WamGams ,

Most who support Israel aren't fascists, they are just wrong and not getting the correct information.

Why would anybody join lemmy when the second largest server has a private discord server that they coordinate doxxing campaigns from?

Blaze OP ,

Why would anybody join lemmy when the second largest server has a private discord server that they coordinate doxxing campaigns from?

What ? Is thag Lemm.ee ? https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy

WamGams ,

.ml, from what I was told.

Blaze OP ,

Damn, that sounds very bad. Any evidence on this?

WamGams ,

Just what people have said before. I don't have a discord and I blocked the server early on.

Hotzilla , in We are now at 48,859 monthly active users vs 51,172 a month ago, decline seems slow but steady. Anything we can do about it?

Natural growth is better than surge. Lemmy will eventually be the defacto. Reddit will do something stupid and people will star pouring in.

Blaze OP ,

I'm usually on that side, but I'm afraid we might just go down to 30k, 20k then snowballing to a very small number that would just kill the platform

anon6789 ,
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I've been a bit concerned as well. I had gotten to know a fair number of regular commenters, but I haven't seen probably half of them recently.

New subs are still joining the community, but it's still low participation. The big communities still seem to be growing steadily, but it's not necessarily bringing the positive attitude that initially won me over to Lemmy.

Blaze OP ,

Indeed.

By the way, thank you for your work on !superbowl

anon6789 ,
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Of course! I've got to be the change I want to see after all.

WamGams ,

Lol, no it won't.

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