The big criticism was for the unrestricted reddit -> lemmy mirroring, not the two-way bridging. The idea to have two-way bridging was better received, but I didn't get to work on it until now that I received the grant from NLNet.
I see, well, sorry for being so negative. I'd be curious how it pans out. There are a few small subreddits that maybe I'd be interested in bridging but I'm not sure how the redditors will respond either. I guess now that you have funding there's nothing to lose?
Edit: if this does end up happening I do have a specific low traffic one in mind
Tbf I'm not so sure how I feel about posts/comments being federated to reddit. I left for a reason. At least they won't be able to harvest my data but idk if I really want to even post there anymore.
Would it be that I have to avoid certain communities or certain instances that are federated with reddit, or would there be a way to choose per account, post, or comment?
The idea of two way bridging now is to have only as an option for community ambassadors and they will be sent as DM to users on Reddit, to let them know about the response here.
We saw lots of this during the big Reddit migration a year ago. Personally I'm not a fan at all - I feel like it just floods mostly empty communities with posts that get barely any interaction. Any posts made by actual people get lost in the flood.
If I open a community and I see a handful of posts from people over the past few weeks, I might check them out, comment, maybe subscribe and contribute something. If I see a page of posts from a bot, mostly with no comments, I lose interest. And that was definitely something I ran into while first exploring Lemmy a year ago.
I'm not 100% against all bots - for example, something making daily posts might not be so bad.
Yes. I think to populate a community something reposting the top reddit post of the day, or maybe even just the week could be good. However more than that is too much.
Re: community for Archer and/or any community you think is missing. Please sign up to https://fediverser.network and open a community request. I am automating the process of community creation and I will use the requests from there as the starting point.
I don't know exactly what this all means but it sounds like it helps people find content for Lemmy, which is great! Content means users, users means more lurkers, some of who will turn into active users, which means interesting ND varied discussions on different topics!
The ability to define “content sources” (RSS feeds and/or other subreddits) to have a central place to find interesting content that can be shared with the Lemmy Community.
The ability to post content from these sources with one single click.
If you have 2 posts and one of them has a comment, people might see that comment and join in on the conversation, also the human OP gets a notification about the comment and is likely to reply. What Lemmy needs is more comments not more posts.
But with bot posts you have 1000 posts and maybe 1 of them has a comment but no one will ever see it, people will see the community has lots of posts but no comments and that isn't interesting, it's just a glorified RSS feed at that point.
Communities are supposed to be comprised of people not bots. The Google definition of "community":
a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common.
Hey this sounds really cool! I just wanted to say I clicked your links trying to find out in detail what fediverser was and wasn't able to find an about/information page.
I'll look into this more, thanks for sharing the project! From what Im getting from this post it sounds like it could be a big boon for Lemmy.
Thank you for the kind words. The project is hosted on Github, and the "current" version is deployed at https://portal.alien.top. I definitely need to add documentation, it will come when I push a proper release.
What you are proposing is basically half of what I've done with fediverser and https://alien.top. The bots reposting content were regarded by the majority (or by the loud minority) as "not a good idea".
There are a few communities with auto content bots.
There's more content, but look at the way Reddit communities interact with that content.
Mostly just a mob saying the clever comment a commenter is expected to post that 100 other people have already commented.
I'm much more comfortable with Lemmy growing into itself organically than trying to turn it into something like Reddit.
I do also like that there was a subreddit for everything, so I started a community here for animorphs, and I'll probably start other niche communities.
I think building what you want to see here is key.
Ive made two communities, !gameclub and !wizards. Wizards recently broke 500 subs and is seeing posts by other users so thats really cool. Gameclub was abandoned awhile back but Ive retooled it and I still think it can serve as a catchall/casual/meme space on the site. I am posting more on other lemmy gaming communities to keep them active as well.
I stepped into a temporary position as a stopgap when the old mod of !bisexual was taking a leave of abscence and it kind of bit me in the ass when the first post in months hit over 200 comments and 15 reports. I've added a couple new mods and Im open to adding more if anyone seems interested.
In all honesty I've started using tumblr more than lemmy, which on one hand is good as it gives me more content to post but on the other hand it means Im not here as often commenting and keeping an eye on things.
!bicycle_touring is doing pretty good for being such a niche and i think you all should get your asses on your bikes and go on some well deserved fun and cheap holidays too, then post about it there.
Sometimes it's best just to let things be. In my experience, the higher quality conversation tends to be away from LW. But there's some exceptions to that. I wish https://lemmy.film was still around.
What will be great is if/when there’s a multi-Reddit style feature that will aggregate similar communities across instances into one feed. Not sure how you’d deal with duplicate posts though.
Yeah, I wonder if there would be a way to combine the duplicate posts into like a thread type of thing? Idk. Tough challenge to deal with, smarter people than I haven’t found a solution yet
But then you would have groups with completely opposite point of views clashing, which is a reason why they are in different communities in the first place.
Let's take a famous example. An article about a new type of electric vehicles. !electricvehicles would probably be interested in interesting the technicalities of the new type, while !fuckcars would probably focus on how cars, even if electric, should still be limited.
People would get quite aggressive against each other, and mods would have an issue moderating the whole discussion, because a mod on the electrichevehicles community wouldn't be able to moderate comments from the people from the !fuckcars community and vice-versa.
Communities are usually split for a good reason, and that makes sense.
When separate communities exist but share the same stance and rules on one topic, that's where discussion that should happen in one place gets fragmented. !movies and !movies have no reason to be split. The lemm.ee version is more active, have more proactive mods, but the LW has a broader audience due to the LW position in Lemmy. So some people keep posting on the LW version, keeping a weird situation where both situations are active at the same time.
I’m not saying aggregated feeds like that be the default, just an option available for someone like me who is neutral about what instance are community that content surrounding a given subject comes from. It would be a handy way to put them in one feed and interact with all of those communities
Still technically cumbersome. One of the main Lemmy dev recommends merging similar communities
there will be lots of duplicate posts and comments, which increases server load and confuses users. Better to merge the communities in the first place.
Well, on the optimistic side: two thriving but redundant communities is better than two stagnant communities.
Maybe you can embrace it. Like, have inter-community events such as a regular monthly discussion that alternates between communities. It's only a problem when there are duplicate posts, right?
I'm finding I'm a lot less frustrated now that Thunder has great support for cross-posts. On any one post you can see a list of all the other posts, their votes, and comment counts.
It's super easy to jump between all the threads discussing the same thing and participate in them all.
Please know that even while our communities are moderated by @Vacant us admins are still making sure the content is within our TOS and community guidelines🤗
although it would be nice to find volunteer moderators as it would help distribute both power and responsibilities🌻🍀
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