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stembolts , in A secret billionaire dinner party in Hollywood, convened by Elon Musk and David Sacks, presages a major political realignment as Silicon Valley money turns against Biden and begins flowing to Trump

Change to billionaire's PoV. You got a badrillion green self-esteem slips, more than you'll ever need or use, but you have based your life's effort on the acquisition of these dollareedoos. Do you want competency in the leadership of a country, or other?

Competence could be bad, politicians with competence recognize historical parallels with the gilded age. They might do something about it.

I suspect they'll take any distraction aside from competence. They are attempting to hold back the inevitable collapse to equilibrium (as all natural systems do so) of the class divide. So vote for the guy who will cause endless distractions allowing the billionaires to pillage further!

In the meantime, let's convince a guy who inherited 5 mil from his papa and makes $200k a year that he's on our team and "they" are coming after his American dream! (They aren't. This example person is poor compared to the actual offenders).

As a scholar who attended multiple minutes of a freshman physics course, I can confidently say the collapse is unavoidable.

Spitzspot , in A secret billionaire dinner party in Hollywood, convened by Elon Musk and David Sacks, presages a major political realignment as Silicon Valley money turns against Biden and begins flowing to Trump
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Capitalism has finally dropped their mask.

RedditWanderer ,

I was actually hoping people like Musk and Trump will drop the mask too fast and push it too far, allowing us to enact laws before it's all over

MajorHavoc ,

I mean, it could be done with laws. That sounds nice. I would love to watch laws get passed on TV.

If what I think is actually coming first comes, I'll turn the TV off before the kids are given nightmares.

silence7 OP ,

You can in fact watch US legislation get passed (or not passed) on c-span

It's mostly very tedious, as legislators are giving speeches for the sound bites, rather than having meaningful discourse.

DaddleDew , in Tesla Software Update Traps TikToker Inside 115-Degree Car

Stop making the future stupid.

Bring back "dumb" devices that just do what we bought them for.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I'd be fine if 'smart' devices actually worked. If a car like a Tesla actually could self-drive wherever you wanted safely and without using any fossil fuels, that would be great. But Tesla only does one of those things.

SuckMyWang , in Tesla first-quarter deliveries were a 'disaster' and may mark turning point, Wedbush's Dan Ives says

Might have something to do with Elon spending all his time jerking off at twitter

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

He didn't spend all of his time jerking off at Twitter.

He spent some of it designing the stupidest commercial vehicle ever released.

Ilovethebomb ,

The Cybertruck was never aimed at the commercial market.

psmgx ,

What market was it aimed at?

Ilovethebomb ,

It's a lifestyle vehicle more than anything, so aimed at people towing, carrying sporting gear etc. Too expensive to be a trade vehicle.

ChicoSuave , in Elon Musk’s Tesla is now a ‘growth company with no growth,’ Wells Fargo writes in scathing downgrade

Imagine a car company selling the same model and style of car for over 10 years. That's almost every car in their line up except for the goofy rust box. There is no innovation in Tesla.

Remember when Tesla was an exciting and emergent name in energy and power systems? Tesla solar tiles made solar look incredible. What has Tesla done lately to drive down costs or increase value? Nothing. They recently came out with the 3rd iteration of their on-site battery and it is a lateral move from their earlier models. There is no long term growth or money put into research. There is no innovation at Tesla.

reddig33 ,

Nothing wrong with that if you do it right. The original air cooled VW Beetle sold and sold and sold for years.

Hypx OP ,

The original Beetle was a very cheap car being sold at a time when no one else was making such vehicles. Sales tanked once competition showed up. The problem is that Tesla is seeing competition now.

Also, Teslas aren't cheap. So the market for them is much smaller.

reddig33 ,

They made the Beetle from 1938 to 2003. Pretty sure other people were making similar vehicles during that time span. They only stopped making it because it could no longer meet environmental exhaust requirements in most countries (air cooled).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Beetle

dependencyinjection ,

Not who originally commented but you said the original air cooled beatle and then proceeded to to say 1938-2003 which is it. The OG or all of them?

Takumidesh ,

The beetle was made until 2003.
The new beetle, a different car, started production in 1997. It was manufactured side by side with the original beetle.

Hypx OP ,

It was well past its prime by the 1970s. VW would've ended production long before 2003 if it wasn't seen as an iconic vehicle.

Ilovethebomb ,

While their cars haven't changed visually, the technology in them has come a long way, in particular the battery tech.

To say there is no innovation isn't quite fair.

brbposting ,

What’s different?

Ilovethebomb ,

Different types of cells, different chemistry, higher capacity, faster charging.

brbposting ,

+1, -7

Not sure if those downvotes are from chemists… :)

Great news!

Snapz ,

They said with no sourced information to support their claims...

Ilovethebomb ,

I don't care enough about your opinion to go digging, sorry.

hips_and_nips ,

Kind of like no one here cares for your unsubstantiated statements?

If you can’t be bothered to back up what you’re claiming, next time don’t bother commenting at all. It’s not adding value to this discussion.

null ,
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But you're on board with the original commenter saying there's been no innovation with nothing to back that up.

Interesting.

hips_and_nips ,

Please point out exactly where I said I agree with the original commenter and not that it’s just some inference you made. Don’t put words in my mouth.

I called this one out due to their cuntish attitude.

null ,
@null@slrpnk.net avatar

It was implied by you saying they aren't contributing anything to the conversation. A conversation based on a statement with no evidence.

If you're just out here playing random comment police, then as you were, officer.

hips_and_nips ,

I had no intention of such an implication.

I’m just here callin’ out cunts. And that’s Inspector Nips to you.

Ilovethebomb ,

Lol, you mad.

hips_and_nips ,

lol, nah.

Ilovethebomb ,

You seem genuinely upset that a stranger on the Internet has better things to do than argue with you. If you were genuinely curious, I'd send a few links your way, but you're just here to argue, so I won't.

hips_and_nips ,

I’m not here to argue anything boyo. I actually agree that Tesla has had good innovations in the battery space. I was a battery control systems engineer for a Formula E team ~5 years ago and I still keep up with the industry.

I never had anything to do with the Tesla topic though, I wasn’t the one who initially replied. How can no one see that? That’s not why I commented, I thought you were unnecessarily rude.

Can’t even play random comment police anymore without people getting their panties all bunched up.

Ilovethebomb ,

You need a hobby.

set_secret ,

you're not allowed to be reasonable when it comes to tesla on here. have you learned nothing?

Ilovethebomb ,

Yeah, it's kinda pathetic the blind hatred some people have for Musk and Co.

set_secret ,

see my downvotes for confirmation. personally i do hate Musk but Tesla is not musk.

DannyMac ,
@DannyMac@lemmy.world avatar

There's innovation. He had his engineers remove the radar sensors which made the cars more accident prone when doing actions considered solved problems by other car manufacturers

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

Yeah, pretty much every complaint about the current state of Tesla’s FSD boils down to one acronym: “LiDAR”.

For the unaware, Elon has convinced himself that cars should be able to drive better than humans, while receiving less visual information via LiDAR. All of the early “wow factor” stuff from Tesla’s self-driving, (like the car automatically braking because it sensed an accident four cars ahead,) was due to radar. But Elon demanded that they get rid of the radar sensors, and move entirely to LiDAR. Because it has lasers.

But the problem with LiDAR is that it can’t see around obstacles. It works via light, just like our eyes, and that means it can’t detect anything beyond the car in front of it. With radar, it could see two or three cars ahead. It could see through/around them to detect obstacles, pedestrians, etc… But now it can’t do any of that, so they’re much more prone to accidents.

phoneymouse ,

Even if you buy a Tesla for the EV and tech, you should decline FSD and not rely at all on any of the automated driving features. It’s all a lie.

guacupado ,

Because Ford is such an innovative company, right? Mustang, F-150, Explorer. If their other models disappeared, no one would notice.

I'm all for hating Musk, but the only difference Tesla and other companies is Tesla is younger. Hell, I was looking at buying an Ioniq 5. I went to the site, built one, and I get "There are zero vehicles nearby. Please look at similar vehicles near your location or contact your nearest dealer." Motherfucker I'm not paying $60k for "close enough to." Dealership shit needs to go. Put a price on the site and let me get what I order.

kadu , in Elon Musk’s Tesla is now a ‘growth company with no growth,’ Wells Fargo writes in scathing downgrade
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

I can't speak for other countries, but here in Brazil we suddenly got a massive influx of Chinese electric car brands. The feeling I get is that I went to sleep in a country where you couldn't even find an electric charger and woke up in one where I could do a road trip with an electric car with zero issues.

Vehicles are extremely expensive here, but a Tesla would be out of this world expensive even if we just directly converted USD to BRL, which is not anywhere close to the actual final price. The Chinese cars are affordable by comparison, they do not lock you into weird proprietary non-standards, they have easy to purchase spare parts and do not require some weird dance to get a repair technician when you need one... I can say Tesla would have zero success here at this point. Completely different context, but I can see why they're no longer growing in the US given how there are other mature electric cars brands out there - missing the pretentious tech bro appeal, of course.

Atom , in Tesla Cars Lose Value Three Times Faster Than A Maserati, Study Says

While the Herz fleet being sold is definitely impacting Tesla resale prices specifically, I think the larger impact is ICE vs EV resale in general. An ICE car from 5 years ago is not all that different than a new one today, mechanically speaking. 5 years in the EV world is a very long time. A new model will come with longer range and faster charging that was not feasible 5 years ago. So a brand that only sells EVs is going to suffer a bit more in studies like these.

reddig33 , in Tesla Cars Lose Value Three Times Faster Than A Maserati, Study Says

Before anyone asks, the chart in the article demonstrates that used Kia prices have fallen 6.7%. Tesla is at the top of the chart with 28.9%.

You have to wonder how much of the fall in resale value is because of Elon’s antics tarnishing the brand.

JoMomma , in Tesla Cars Lose Value Three Times Faster Than A Maserati, Study Says

Let's all buy Maserati's!

Daft_ish , in Elon Musk Deletes Tweet Saying Ex-Wives Responsible for Collapse of Civilization

Elon on twitter after he stubs his toe.

"Stubbed toes are causing climate change!"

EndOfLine , in Mitch McConnell’s billionaire sister-in-law Angela Chao made panicked last call before dying in ‘completely submerged’ Tesla on Texas ranch: report
@EndOfLine@lemm.ee avatar

Could she not have opened the door or rolled down the window? The article made sure we knew that she went to Harvard and described the event she was attending, but no mention of why she was unable to exit the vehicle. Did she not know how to swim? Was their some obstruction? Did something malfunction? Was she so used to having other people do things for her that it just never occurred to her to do anything for herself?

NJSpradlin ,

Wasn’t there controversy about the Tesla shutting down when submerged and how you couldn’t open the windows or unlock the doors because they hadn’t built in emergency safety releases? Or was that a different earlier model that has been fixed by now?

Karyoplasma ,

It's pretty much impossible to open a car door underwater. You'd need superhuman strength.

As to why the windows didn't roll down, I can only speculate.

elbucho , in Tesla Cybertrucks Are Rusting Despite Being Made Of Stainless Steel
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Others are in favor of their Cybertrucks developing orange stains, saying that they’re looking forward to the patina the stainless steel may develop.

LOL - that's some straight up 🤡 shit.

Neato ,
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My Metalbird is developing a patina that looks a lot like rust. Apparently that's intentional and temporary but we'll see. I only paid $60 not $100,000 so I'm not as upset as I imagine these people are.

KingThrillgore , in Elon Musk Is Going to Make People Pay $8 If They Want to Call Him
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Tell me you're running out of money without saying you're out of money.

It's amazing a billionaire is getting this desperate.

Fizz , in Most Americans Wary of Self-Driving Cars as Trust in Tesla Wanes: Study
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Self driving tech is pretty good and getting better at an insane rate. I think people only distrust it because of bad media reporting.

MxM111 , in Elon Musk's company directors feel an 'expectation' to use drugs with him to avoid upsetting the billionaire, report says

Irrelevant comment, but I wish that psychedelics were not classified by people as drugs. There is little in common in impact to your health and to your "high" between traditional drugs like cocaine and opioids and psychedelics.

deft ,

There are absolutely impacts on your health though. Stuff changes your personality and sometimes, often, not for the best

I know a lot of former friends with brain rot from our crazy days

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