proctonaut ,

I think The Velveteen Rabbit is pretty fucked.

Iunnrais ,

It wouldn’t have been so bad if they didn’t burn everything at the end. I mean, I get that sanitation in that situation was pretty darn important, but it was the author’s choice to choose something that required that outcome. That ending made me sad for a long time. Definitely didn’t know how to handle it. Not sure I can even now.

Bougie_Birdie ,
@Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I was probably a child when I last read it, so I might have some details wrong, but here's how I remember it:

A child is given a toy rabbit. A fairy visits the toy rabbit and gives it the gift of awareness. The child and the toy bond with each other and grow to love each other. Unfortunately, the child becomes dangerously ill, and after the sickness their possessions must be incinerated to prevent contamination. This includes the toy rabbit. However, the fairy arrives at the last minute, declaring that because the rabbit learned to love it was therefore a real rabbit, and with a wave of her wand transforms the toy into a living being and whisks it off to the woods were it lives happily ever after with the other rabbits.

So I guess my question is this - Do you think the velveteen rabbit and the fairy are real? Or is the fairy's magic an invention of the child's mind?

I think the narrative required the velveteen rabbit to be burned because it was so horrible. To the grown ups it's just velveteen, but to the child it's a dear friend. Even as children we know that being burned is horrible. So the child invents a solution where their toy can live happily ever after even after it's thrown in the fire.

I think there's definitely some Heaven and Hell symbolism to be had too. The velveteen rabbit was damned to hellfire unless it accepted love into its heart during its life. Then it is granted into the afterlife. In fact, you could say it was reincarnated into a higher spiritual form.

The story explores coping with loss as seen from the point of view of a child. Even though the velveteen rabbit was just a toy, the child has given it a soul. If you have a soul, when you die you go to the afterlife and live happily ever after. It's a comforting story to a child, and one that many people around the world have believed throughout the ages.

RebekahWSD ,
@RebekahWSD@lemmy.world avatar

I hadn't thought about it being a coping mechanism for the child, the 'fairy' 'rescuing' the rabbit when it was just everything got burned anyways. I like the interpretation! Now I'm sad!

ChexMax ,

Did anybody else read tangerine as a kid? I still think about it pretty often and I'm 30.

AlligatorBlizzard ,

My brother was assigned that in school and we had it in the RV on a camping trip, so I picked it up and read it one evening. Both the info on citrus growing, and the violence, are things I still remember. Fucked up.

Was it assigned reading? Where did you go to school? I've always wondered if that book made it into reading lists anywhere outside of Florida.

ChexMax ,

Yep, assigned reading in Florida

Sickos ,
@Sickos@hexbear.net avatar

Coraline is pretty intense.

A quote from Neil Gaiman about his editor's daughter, who served as the book's first audience

I told her, "You know, we kind of have you to thank for all this, because you weren’t scared by it." And she said, "Actually, I was terrified. But I wanted to know what happened next. I knew if I let anybody know I was scared, I wouldn’t find out."

fubarx ,

Don't know about kids, but "Clifford, the Big Red Dog" sure traumatized Grandma.

Stern ,
@Stern@lemmy.world avatar

Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. Actually just the art alone does the traumatizing really.

ikilledlaurapalmer ,

Have you seen those bullshit rerelease editions? SAD!

Stern ,
@Stern@lemmy.world avatar

Here is the one I got my nephew and niece. They must've realized nostalgia folks ain't fuckin' with this nonsense, which is absolutely fair.

anarchoilluminati ,
@anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net avatar

Not a book, but as a kid I absolutely loved The Land Before Time.

It's such a terribly sad and traumatizing movie for a young child.

PeterLossGeorgeWall ,

A lot of the original versions of the brothers Grimm stories. For example Cinderella, one of the sisters chops off bits of her feet so that she can try and get into the shoe Cinderella dropped. I think the Prince only figured it out because she's dripping in blood.

Etterra ,

A lot of those were meant to keep children in line. Also to teach girls that the only way they'll be able to get ahead in life is to marry into money.

verity_kindle ,
@verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works avatar

But it doesn't pay off for the stepsister at all. She's just bleeding, the story is about the triumph of The Grind- Cinderella stuck to virtue, hard work, etc.

sensiblepuffin ,
@sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world avatar

Well the lessons there were a) don't be a conniving bitch, and b) don't be a stepmom or stepsister.

Evotech ,

Cinderella is not a brothers Grimm original but I get what you mean

clickyello ,

the Brothers Grimm versions were not the original versions of any of those fairytales! they were edgy remakes! idk why or how that thinking became so common or why I care so much!

Etterra ,

I only got traumatized by movies as a kid. Never had any traumatic books, only good, interesting, or really fucking weird ones.

Blursty ,
@Blursty@lemmygrad.ml avatar

The Little Match Girl.

Resol ,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Not a book, but the May 2022 edition of Majid magazine. Why? In one of the comics, Amoona looks straight up horrifying. I didn't even mention the real controversy here (and honestly it's undeserved).

meanmon13 ,

The other night I read my son an old children's book named "Prickly Pie". He wasn't traumatized by it but I could easily see a kid getting traumatized by in. In the story a young hedgehog decides to skip school and ends up being hog tied by a sly fox and almost cooked over a fire.

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

Hans Christian Andersen fables. At least it traumatised me long ago, unlike any other fairy tale books, which i had plenty.

verity_kindle ,
@verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works avatar

The book in the "Little House on the Prairie" series- (the one where Laura gets married and has a baby) and their childless neighbors ask to buy their baby. Is that enough trauma by itself? No. Not quite. It's the lack of empathy from Laura or her husband, they treat them so badly, like they're dangerous.

Cysioland ,
@Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Antek by Bolesław Prus

Yeah we just gonna shove a kid in the oven for three Hail Marys

datavoid ,

I read The Kite Runner as a kid, that was a fun one

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