The Internet in Ancient Times

TropicalDingdong , in Are the copper merchants from the city of Am Azon to be trusted? The last thing I want is another Ea-Nasir situation.

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When you came, you said to me as follows: ‘I will give Gimil-Sin (when he comes) fine quality copper ingots.’ You left then but you did not do what you promised me. You put ingots which were not good before my messenger (Sit-Sin) and said: ‘If you want to take them, take them; if you do not want to take them, go away!’

What do you take me for, that you treat somebody like me with such contempt? I have sent as messengers gentlemen like ourselves to collect the bag with my money (deposited with you) but you have treated me with contempt by sending them back to me empty-handed several times, and that through enemy territory. Is there anyone among the merchants who trade with Telmun who has treated me in this way? You alone treat my messenger with contempt! On account of that one (trifling) mina of silver which I owe you, you feel free to speak in such a way, while I have given to the palace on your behalf 1,080 pounds of copper, and umi-abum has likewise given 1,080 pounds of copper, apart from what we both have had written on a sealed tablet to be kept in the temple of Samas.

FlyingSquid OP Mod ,
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See? That's what I'm saying. Can I even trust these Azons with copper? I only have so much Lebanese cedar wood to trade.

mecfs , in Agriculture is hard!

Off topic:

I seem to see you everywhere and i really want to say that I really appreciate all your contributions to lemmy flyingsquid! You really help populate it with content and feel like a nice community!

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Thank you!

MantisTobogganMD ,

i’m new to lemmy how do I work this shit, we can make this place better

FlyingSquid Mod , (edited ) in If you know, you know
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I have a whole bunch of those back at the villa. Let me know if you want some advice on them. 12 denari for a basic model, but if you want a good one, you're looking at a good 8 or 9 nummus aureus.

People think there's some sort of enigma to them. It's like they've never even used one, you know?

Edit: Apologies, I have been visiting the East. By 12, I meant XII and by 8 or 9, I meant VIII or IX.

idegenszavak , in AITA I (24M) Saw something weird in village today
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YTA: IANAL but Hammurabi 202 says:

202 If any one strike the body of a man higher in rank than he, he shall receive sixty blows with an ox-whip in public.

It's clear that your elder were in higher rank, but you just killed the scammer, while sixty blows with an ox-whip would be the correct punishment for his attack.

About the traveler's lies, Hammurabi 107 can be related, while it's not the exact case, it shows what repercussion a cheater like him should get:

107 If the merchant cheat the agent, in that as the latter has returned to him all that had been given him, but the merchant denies the receipt of what had been returned to him, then shall this agent convict the merchant before God and the judges, and if he still deny receiving what the agent had given him shall pay six times the sum to the agent.

So killing him was too much, you just had to beat him a bit and took most of his belongings. Your deeds were really uncivilized and I hope your gods will punish you with at least 2 years of drought.

Sanctus , in Daily standup. Daily standup never changes.
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We obviously need more leeches.

Cosmonauticus ,

Yeah wasnt their science incredibly flawed?

FlyingSquid Mod ,
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I think you could argue that there was no actual science before the scientific method was developed. There were things that approached science, but without testing theories through experimentation, and without others testing those same theories to confirm them, it isn't really science.

Zos_Kia ,
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It's not just that they didn't have a scientific method, it's that empiricism was a swear word. You were supposed to understand the universe through intellectual extrapolation of the Bible or of greek philosophy - not by dumbly testing out things in the real world until you found a consistent pattern. The scientific method is kind of the first instance of the Bitter Lesson.

Ironically, occultists had no such snobbery, that's why people like Paracelsus were able to be so influential even though their whole framework was basically fantasy. Just the fact that they would perform structured experiments and consign the results and use those results to establish theories put them head and shoulder above the rest.

Cosmonauticus ,

You were supposed to understand the universe through intellectual extrapolation of the Bible or of greek philosophy - not by dumbly testing out things in the real world until you found a consistent pattern.

That is fundamentally not true. Especially since it implies that science wasn't practiced outside of Christian institutions and Greek society. It completely omits things like the Islamic golden age, discoveries involving mathematics and astronomy in India, Chinese chemistry, and medicine throughout many parts of Africa

Zos_Kia ,
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You're right, my comment only applies to the setting depicted in the comic. Seems to be late middle age Europe, with the Inquisition still going hard, not a good time and place to be an empiricist.

partial_accumen , in If you know, you know

Every generation believes they invented sex memes.

niktemadur ,

Hey, I've been saying the same thing about discovering postpunk band Tones On Tails for around thirty years now!

themoonisacheese , in Weshesh? Lukka? Peleset? Give me some help here.
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This is so far beyond meme misuse that it's unclear what even is the message you're trying to convey

FlyingSquid OP Mod ,
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You can't fool me that easily, Sea Person.

groet , in what's this thing again? i'm drawing a blank...

If your mind is a tabula rasa maybe you should erase your tabula cerata to match

lobut , in The city's philosopher keeps calling in sick and I'm starting to get suspicious.

I think it's a reference to this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave

For those that are unaware. Watch some explanation videos on this. It was enlightening seeing different interpretations of this allegory in modern movies/stories.

FlyingSquid OP Mod ,
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That is correct.

bionicjoey , in Uh-oh.

I visited the Louvre recently and saw one of these fertility idols up close. They really should put some kind of warning because I immediately felt the need to unzip my pants and start furiously masturbating. It would have been embarrassing except every other museumgoer in the room was doing it as well.

finley ,

i had a similar experience at the Greek Vase Painting exhibit at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. if it hadn't been for the museum docents equipped with mops and buckets, it would have been a virtual slip n' slide in and out of there.

vzq , in My face when she wants to move to Babylon but there are many reasons why we should stay in Nineveh.

Better copper than in ur, anyway.

FlyingSquid Mod ,
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It's not that Ur's copper is bad, it's that they only trade the bad stuff and keep the good stuff for themselves.

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Evil_Shrubbery , in We need to respect each other a little more. This is the Bronze Age and it will last forever.

INDIVIDUALIS MARITIMUS

FlyingSquid OP Mod ,
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I've heard all manner of Greek, Akkadian and Egyptian, but I can't place that language, friend.

Wait... are you one of those Mediterranean-based humans? Because I don't have any bronze, okay?

Evil_Shrubbery ,

Shut!

You are now part of our glorious Empire, rejoice at once for you are being assimilated into the great culture of sucking on wolf tiddies and totally not copying art of everyone else.

Also you now need to produce olive oil in vast quantities, bcs we need it. We will pay you with our money that we will later collect as additional taxes (on top of your regional ones, those stay).

Mesophar ,

At first glance, it appears to be High Gothic!

teft , in So... where's everyone from?
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What's a map?

FlyingSquid OP Mod ,
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It's inscribed right there on the stone. Can you not read Babylonian Cuneiform? Are you some sort of Elamite Barbarian?

teft ,
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I come from Sur-Marrati. We only speak Assyrian in these parts. Hence my confusion.

sharkfucker420 ,
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Completely understandable, I apologize for misjudging you

bionicjoey , in When you ask your servants to fill your water bowl but forget to tell them to stop...

Is this one of the famous sea people I've heard about?

FlyingSquid OP Mod ,
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The Sea Peoples are a myth. The Bronze Age will never end.

too_high_for_this , in Beauty standards

Feels misogynistic, dozen tit?

0ops ,

Booooooo

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