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211 , to World News in Kremlin calls NATO chief's nuclear weapons remark an 'escalation of tension'

What doesn't Kremlin consider an escalation of tension? Spine-removing surgery?

WatDabney , to World News in Kremlin calls NATO chief's nuclear weapons remark an 'escalation of tension'

Even "the pot calling the kettle black" isn't enough to sum this up.

It's more like "the pot calling the salad bowl a pot."

werefreeatlast , to World News in The Dutchman who gets Nike and Lego into wartime Russia’s stores

This is great. I hope more overpriced shit gets to be sold there.

Lucidlethargy , to News in Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic
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Where is the source for this? I see zero source.

AdrianTheFrog ,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Reuters is the source, they’re fairly reputable.

Lucidlethargy ,
@Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works avatar

It was mentioned, but it was emphatically not linked.

androogee ,

🤨

It's the primary source. It's original investigative journalism, not a Wikipedia article or a listicle. Link to what? Itself?

NauticalNoodle , to United States | News & Politics in Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic

Didn't we find the location of some big-time terrorists via fake vaccine campaigns prior to this?

frightful_hobgoblin , to news in Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic

Undermine the Chinese government, not the Chinese people

MF_COOM ,

The Chinese people are overwhelmingly supportive of the Chinese government

Alaskaball Mod ,
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Mind your own damn business you angloid gobshite

xkyfal18 ,
@xkyfal18@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Is this a fucking joke?

thirtymilliondeadfish ,

oh well that's alright then

Flyberius ,
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Westerners are fucking savages. Sort your own country out

SexUnderSocialism ,
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That utter bullshit distinction somehow excuses causing unnecessary deaths by spreading lies about a vaccine that could save lives? Is that what you're trying to say? Go fuck yourself, you despicable ghoul.

Dirt_Owl ,
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Racist shithead

Teekeeus ,
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I wish bird flu undermines both the american government and "people"

masquenox , to News in Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic

Nothing shocking, nothing surprising.

We here in South Africa had our turn with US psyop shitfuckery last year.

HiddenLychee ,

Please share! I fell out of contact with my friends there over the pandemic and heard nothing about this.

masquenox ,

A Russian ship docked in Cape Town last year carrying armaments destined for the "War On Terror - Mozambique Edition." The US embassy pretended it didn't have access to that intelligence, and accused the SA government of (supposedly) supplying Putin with weaponry. The rapidity with which these accusations was championed by white supremacist political organisations (including the second largest political party) made it all even more suspicious. We literally had people here (you can imagine which kind) calling for the US to regime change us.

The incident raised more questions than anything - but the white liberal media here in South Africa didn't bother with those... it merely seemed interested in using the entire affair to attack the ANC. It was pretty clear to people here that there was something bigger going on than merely one measly little Russian ship - and, personally, I suspect that the ANC's "sudden" concern over what is going on in Gaza is a retaliation against the US for this. They sure as hell didn't have these concerns when they allowed Israel to buy up South African corporations left, right and centre...

mightyfoolish , to News in Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic

Covid is related to SARs which East Asian people seem more susceptible to. This is very evil. Well, hopefully this was only under Trump's turn, Biden doesn't need more ammo for Genocide Joe.

bloodfart , to News in Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic

If you don’t feel disgusted by this enough: the Biden regime shut down the insulin price cap faster than it shut down this program.

TachyonTele ,

We all believe you .ml

assassin_aragorn ,

The article says Biden shut it down in Spring 2021. Turns out your comment is completely wrong -- Biden shut down the program faster than it implemented insulin price caps.

This is why the person replying to you mocked .ml. You can't even read the damn article.

Technically, accounts were still in place afterwards and they didn't properly clean up the disrespectful mess of a program, but that isn't what you said. You said shut down the program, which demonstrably happened quickly.

bloodfart ,

The Biden regime stopped all trump regime executive orders on January 20th, 2021, two days before the trump regimes part d insulin price cap would have taken effect.

The stop on January 20 was called a “pause” because after 60 days to evaluate the ones it wanted to keep, the Biden regime said it would continue the good executive orders. I can’t find any indication that the insulin price cap actually went into effect until a year and a half later as part of a huge bill I can’t remember the name of.

The Biden regime shut down the insulin price cap before it shut down the cia antivax campaign.

TachyonTele ,

Does saying regime multiple times make you feel special?

bloodfart ,

No, I say it to at least recognize that there is an entire apparatus behind these decisions as opposed to attributing them to one person.

I choose to use the word regime to in some small way make reference to the different relationships to different power that each apparatus has. It’s important to not equate the two.

TachyonTele ,

Are you American?

bloodfart ,

Yes I am, why do you ask?

TachyonTele ,

Which state and city are you even in? Because I don't believe you. I've already called out other non Americans for trying to influence the US elections here, I've been correct, and frankly you being a part of .ml is one of the biggest red flags on Lemmy.

Your wording is simply not something Americans use. So you can either stop trying to influence a different countries elections than your own, or you can sit back down in your mom's basement and keep your immature opinions to yourself.

bloodfart ,

Of course, send any abuse or what have you over to my address:

200 N Blount St
Raleigh, NC 27601

Surely you don’t think a person from the instance focused on open source and privacy would just dox themselves, right?

TachyonTele ,

So, another non American ml account. Got it.

bloodfart ,

If you want to go through my post history I bet you could put together where I’m at.

What would prove I’m American to you aside from doxing myself?

rambling_lunatic , to News in Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic
  1. The antivaxxers were complaining a conspiracy when this whole time they were the conspiracy.
  2. This whole time antivax kept getting blamed on Russian troll farms, when the troll farms were Western all along. Golden.
Duamerthrax ,

This whole time antivax kept getting blamed on Russian troll farms, when the troll farms were Western all along. Golden.

Just because the US was doing it, doesn't mean Russia wasn't also doing it.

archomrade ,

Right because that changes the ethics of us doing it?

Duamerthrax ,

Not what I said.

kbin_space_program , to United States | News & Politics in Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic

"China's" vaccine was stolen from Canada.

It outright wasn't as effective since Canada hadnt finished working on it.

davel ,
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Where are you getting this from, your own ass? It seems that NATOpedia mentions no such thing, and they seem to love shitting on China.

kbin_space_program ,

The word you want to search is "CanSinoVac."

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

And AFAICT that’s not even the vaccine this article is talking about, anyway.

gAlienLifeform OP ,
@gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world avatar

NATOpedia

About that source,

The Grayzone has downplayed or denied the Chinese government's human rights abuses against Uyghurs, published conspiracy theories about Xinjiang, Syria, and other regions, and published disinformation about Ukraine during the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which some have described as pro-Russian propaganda. Grayzone staff Blumenthal and Aaron Maté acted as briefers on behalf of the Permanent Mission of the Russian Federation to the United Nations at UN meetings organized by Russia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone?wprov=sfla1

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes, I’m well aware of Wikipedia’s opinion of The Grayzone & Blumenthal & Maté, and I’m familiar with its garbage English-language entries on Xinjiang & Syria & the war in Ukraine.

Lets take the Uyghurs/Xinjiang as an representative example. The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and once those efforts failed, it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop, just last month.

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The blueprint of regime change operations

We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.

Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.

The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.

Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.

Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).

Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.

gAlienLifeform OP ,
@gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world avatar

First off, you should really source what you're talking about, secondly it does seem to be entirely irrelevant to this story, but third, unlike the information DOD contractors were spreading in this story, that does appear to be a more or less accurate summary of what happened there.

delirious_owl ,
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You can't steal ideas

kbin_space_program ,
  1. Yeah you can. Thomas Edison made his fortune on stealing other people's ideas, including the Light Bulb.

  2. It was partially completed, and the part that was completed was one China still doesnt have the tech or knowledge to do.

homesweethomeMrL , to News in Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic

The clandestine operation has not been previously reported. It aimed to sow doubt about the safety and efficacy of vaccines and other life-saving aid that was being supplied by China, a Reuters investigation found.

Through phony internet accounts meant to impersonate Filipinos Americans, the military’s propaganda efforts morphed into an anti-vax campaign.

Social media posts decried the quality of face masks, test kits and the first vaccine that would become available in the Philippines – China’s Sinovac inoculation.

FTFT. Also horse de-wormer, hydroxychloriquine, and bleach. The Pentagon was just doing what other wrong-thinking military psyops orgs were doing. The MAGAts were, of course, the targets for those.

Unsurprisingly led by the demented orange rapist who embraced all the garbage and spread it widely, and bigly.

girlfreddy OP ,
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You're mistaken. Literally the first paragraph of the article says ...

the U.S. military launched a secret campaign to counter what it perceived as China’s growing influence in the Philippines

Doom ,

He's making the point that everyone is doing this to each other.

girlfreddy OP ,
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They said someone else ...

The MAGAts were, of course, the targets for those.

homesweethomeMrL ,

My point is that the same article, with just a few minor substitutions, could be aptly applied to right-wing MAGAs and Qult members who joined in and amplified said message. I have no doubt there is some equivalent to the Herman Cain Award winners in the Philippines.

DaCrazyJamez ,

Pretty sure this was being done TO the US by ops in Russia,China, Iran and others

YeetPics , to Ukraine in Russians told to mobilize to inflict 'maximum harm' on West in response to sanctions

Pinko cowards gonna despot

jabathekek , to Ukraine in Russians used starvation as method of warfare in Mariupol, experts say
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A common method when fascists group together to kill people they don't like. *Glares at Israel

sidekickplayah , to News in Hamas says it accepts UN-backed Gaza truce plan, US cites 'hopeful sign'

Spyder on suicide watch rn

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