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https://gmkeros.files.wordpress.com/2024/05/warlocks_and_witches_in_a_dance5238827366399506857.jpg?w=1024John Faed, Warlocks and Witches in a dance (1855)I am not a fan of Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition. In fact I am not a fan of the 4th edition either, or the 3.5th edition, or Pathfinder (the 3.75th edition) for that matter. Actually I burned out running 3e and that was the impetus to go back to older edition, retroclones, and the OSR.

Which means I only really was touched by the introduction of warlock peripherally.

It didn’t help that I first saw them done in 3.5 and was not impressed. I still am not. It took them a while to get them into a state where players might intuitively grasp what the class is about. The 5th edition one seems to have managed that though, and I think I get why: warlocks are fun.

They are the kind of power fantasy that has all the hallmarks of a chugging half a quart of vodka with Red Bull and stealing a car. Maybe in the back of your mind you know that this is a bad idea, but right now you are intoxicated and it’s fun and who knows if morning will ever come and who cares about those flashing blue lights behind you?

Warlocks are the bad example your parents warned you about. It’s what lazy kids become when they grow up. But why, do the fighter and the magic user say, do they have so much fun being lazy? What about training? What about studying?

To which the Warlocks answer: “Eldritch Blast!”

But no, I think Warlocks as a character concept are really wonderfully OSR: you sell your soul to… not necessarily the devil, but SOMETHING, and then you can do all kinds of stuff you never learned. That sounds overpowered, and it is. But there is the implicit end of the warlock, which most people seem to forget because they treat it as just another class: this is a class that is completely dependent on some other unknownable being and their whims. There is not really a good ending for the warlock. Whatever actually happens with them when they die, in most cases it shouldn’t be pretty. If you have pledged your soul to the devil you won’t end slurping ice cold drinks at the shore of some scenic lake of fire. If you pledged it to an archfey you might end up as furniture.

I think what is missing from the class as written a bit is that there should be marks of what you are doing on you as well. You don’t become level 5 with no outside mark. I would say that every level there should be a possibility of a new pact marker. Cloven feet? Horns growing? Ears start looking like leafs? Something like that.

Reaction rolls should be affected. People might fear you, but they won’t respect you. You took the easy way and when people know they KNOW. Animals will look at you funny. You might not be able to pass under a horseshoe anymore. Mirrors shatter. That stuff.

Also ages ago I wrote about how to do multiclassing in my opinion. Every level, even the first, should cost as much as the next highest level of your other classes. That still holds up, but I think Warlocks… don’t follow that rule. Because learning another class when you spent your life doing something else shouldn’t be easy. Unless, well, you sell your soul or something. New warlocks just become warlocks.

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There's often a difference between the books that we like, and the books that influence us.

What books have had the largest influence on your gaming?

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Everyone playing d&d ought to watch this brief dive into good D&D play.

Ginny made a great concise talking video that is fun, silly, and remarkably good advice for all games.

https://youtu.be/G-q_HLM4OvU?si=zb2zo9Fjyy1vk1Wa

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I've been experimenting with mixed media feels in the last few projects. I didn't necessarily perfect it with Space Reavers, but I got close, and I think I'm onto something. 🤔

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Is there a play by post ttrpgs for mastodon? I guess there's instances dedicated to role-playing? But any ones about having a character sheet and gm? Or something similar

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is a state I'm very much endeared towards (not least because my wife is from there), and this is as good an example as any as to why.

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The End of the Dragon by Henry Justice Ford (https://gmkeros.files.wordpress.com/2024/03/dragon_by_henry_justice_ford.jpg?w=984)A Monday Miscellany of Links pt. XVI

100 Village Notable Features (OSRVault)

d10 Graveyard Dressing (Azukail Games)

d12 Mysterious Vapours & Miasmas (Elfmaids & Octopi)

DnD turns 50 and something else turns 200 (Playing at the World)

‘The hobby is only just catching up to what Greg did 40 years ago’: Pendragon 6E, ‘ultimate’ edition of an RPG legend’s masterpiece, reclaims its crown (dicebreaker)

Using TTRPGs to change the narratives around Autism (Roll for Kindness)

Tips and Tricks: DIY TTRPG zines and booklet props (TTRPGKids)

Save the Day: How Young Chinese Are Role-Playing Their Way to Wealth (Sixth Tone)

How to make a monster (Medievalists.net)

Grimoire Of The Pale (d66 spells) (Another Hamsterish Hoard)

A Generator for New Words, Or: Automatically Grafting Prefixes and Suffixes Garned from Wikitionary (Archons March On)

Symbols & Lost Languages to Guide Your Campaign (Dice Goblin)

Flavortown: Why A Soldier Is A Rogue Not A Fighter (Renaissance Woodsman)

Bring Out Your Dead (The Dododehecadron)

Uniquely Undead (Dyson Logos)

Bringing Back the Magic (Magician’s Manse)

Creating monster behavior instead of monster abilities (The Luminescent Lich)

Knots (A Procedure For Elegant Jaquaysing) (Dungeonfruit)

Dungeon Walls, Ceilings & Floors (Elfmaids & Octopi)

The Miners of Redhorn (Mediums and Messages)

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Friendly reminder:

There are so many other games out there that isn't D&D. Go try some of them out. Who knows, you might actually like them..

Personally, I love , and I'm looking forward to and .

Do you have an that you love or are looking forward to playing that isn't ?

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My game is a homage to looter-shooter video games. It has tables upon tables upon tables to help you create unique, memorable, and occasionally useful weapons as you explode your way across the galaxy. Now available in a bundle with other games full of rows and columns! https://itch.io/b/2317/this-ttrpgs-got-tables-in-it

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I've been exploring the Fediverse for several years now, but have just moved instances again, so it's time for a reposted .

I've got a wide range of interests, but have a few special interests - (currently Pathfinder 2e, but I've been around since the 1st ed D&D), , , and .

Fantasy/Sci-Fi fan & Socialist tired of broken politics and Capitalism. Works in EduTech. I just want to live a simpler sustainable life.

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Okay friends: best system-agnostic fantasy TTRPG setting? Please repost. #ttrpg #roleplaying #fantasy

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I want to run a session for the kids. One of them does systemless roleplaying, and the other 2 are not as cerebral. I don't think I've quite figured out how to make this successful, so I'd like some recommendations.

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It’s Old Gods of Appalachia night! “The Silent Ones” 9 PM ET Twitch.tv/ZealZaddy

Starring @GhostCandle @mindflayedmon
@robosardi @empathic_grimm
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BSKY/@BlakeFrancis

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https://gmkeros.files.wordpress.com/2024/01/dnd-newsgroup.png?w=1024Did you know there is an online forum for tabletop role-playing games that has been around since the late 70s, and which still is active and operating?

Admittedly in a much diminished state than at it’s heyday.

I don’t know if you ever heard the term Usenet before, and even if you did, if you don’t just connect it with data piracy. Because that’s what it is mostly used for nowadays.

What it started out as were discussion forums.

Back in the late 70s, after ARPANET had been created and email had been invented, a few programmers came up with an idea for an electronic bulletin board that could be read asynchronously. This was the time when computers still were only in big institutions like universities, big companies, and the military, and the whole idea was to create “a poor man’s ARPANET”. Connections between computers were rare and expensive , but possible. So these “news” started as a way to propagate articles and messages along servers that were not constantly connected to the internet. Some of the servers involved would only connect once a day to the network to transfer messages in and out (often at night because charges were lower then). A message might travel for multiple days before it reached all nodes in the network, and some of the earliest were messages about a nascent hobby popular among the people using this network: fantasy role-playing.

From what I can see the first two messages on the brand new group net.games.frp were sent out on the 12th of January 1982.

To give you an idea just how early this was: it was before the abbreviation RPG became common, people were still talking about Fantasy RolePlaying instead, so even today the group-names use the abbreviation FRP.

It’s quite a fascinating system that over time has become ever more complex and popular, before the ascent of html, hyperlinks, and the world wide web pushed it into the seedy corners of the ‘net.

Instead of having websites, Usenet is organized in newsgroups, and those groups are organized in hierarchies. There are the so called Big Eight that have a certain standard for group creation and posting (e.g. rec. for recreational topics, and comp. for topics concerning computers), and there are others, organized in one way or another (famously alt. which had lower standards for the creation of new groups).

Messages are sent to one or more groups (crossposted), distributed around the network, and people respond to these posts. Interesting discussions and arguments ensue, people get angry, flame wars ensue, other people learn something new, weird in-jokes develop, stuff happens.

All that can be read via archives, the biggest of which is Google Groups, which both is a boon and downfall of the service: Google purchased the old newsgroup archives of DejaNews back in the 90s, and integrated it in it’s Google Groups service. In a picture-perfect example of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish the users of Groups had a web interface that allowed them access to their old newsgroups, access to new groups that only existed on Google, but also allowed spammers to flood the connected newsgroups with loads of unmoderated spam. Spam that recently was quoted by them as a reason to cut the connection with Usenet, bringing this phase of the network to an end.

But Usenet still is running, and most likely will be running as long as there are people willing to run servers for it. But the biggest Usenet servers nowadays are piracy servers that keep the text-part of the Usenet as more of an afterthought. At one point someone came up with a way to use the text-only format of Usenet in a way to distribute data that was binary, i.e. not purely text. And this took over most of the system.

But I am not really interested in that and never was. What I am interested in are the fantasy roleplaying parts of that network.

rec.games.frp.*

I said that the forum has been running since the late 70s, but that’s not quite correct. The original structure of Usenet grew organically from the beginning. People were creating new groups when it suited them and it seemed logical. Which soon caused some hierarchies (specifically the net. hierarchy) to swell with groups that could barely be maintained. In a great upheaval in 1987 all the groups were renamed and restructured.

Some old hands are still angry about it and will bitch about it for days. That also is Usenet.

One can argue that the fantasy roleplaying group has existed since before that time. One also could argue that it only exists since 1987. Which still is older than the World Wide Web.

Usenet is divided into hierarchies, and the frp-hierarchy is part of the rec. (recreation-hierarchy) and .games. sub-hierarchy.

There are currently 11 .frp. groups in that hierarchy:

rec.games.frp.dnd of course… it’s the hierarchy for Dungeons and Dragons. Always one of the biggest topics of the whole FRP forums this one got it’s own group.
rec.games.frp.misc for basically all other kinds of discussions about roleplaying games
rec.games.frp.cyber for cyberpunk systems (e.g. Cyberpunk 2020 or Shadowrun).
rec.games.frp.super-heroes for superhero games
rec.games.frp.live-action anything LARP goes here.
rec.games.frp.announce announcements and news about products go here
rec.games.frp.industry for all kinds of discussions about the rpg industry
rec.games.frp.storyteller yes, this was created when the World of Darkness was big enough to demand it’s own forum
rec.games.frp.gurps For GURPS, this part was created because while never the most popular game, it’s fans flooded the main group with so many messages about builds that it was decided to give them their own place.
rec.games.frp.advocacy all kinds of discussions about roleplaying games as such and how they work. This is where the Forge came from back in the day
rec.games.frp.market I guess this is for selling stuff. I have literally never seen a message in there.

Most of these lay fallow right now, with me and a few others being the only ones posting there every once in a while. I do have to admit part of it is because I don’t want to lose the that part of ttrpg history to a random deletion request for non-use.

Other TTRPG groups

The main hierarchies are not the only ones. Most normal Usenet servers carry at least the Big Eight, but most also carry others. The big other hierarchy is alt. (…definitely not named for Anarchists, Lunatics, and Terrorists, all evidence to the contrary…), which makes it easier to create groups. This means there are a few other groups here that might be of interest, if they ever would get someone to post in them. Their structure though is not as organized as the ones in the Big 8.

alt.games.frp.adnd-util about utilities for playing ADnD. I would say, a general groups for RPG utilities.
alt.games.adnd for ADnD. I am not sure why this exists, maybe because the main one was too stodgy, or it was created because someone thought ADnD was sufficiently different than DnD to warrant it’s own group
alt.games.earthdawn for Earthdawn. Remember Earthdawn?
alt.games.x-files.rpg For the X-Files RPG. Remember that?
alt.games.whitewolf I guess a group for White Wolf games, which is also already covered in rec.games.frp.storyteller
alt.games.tolkien.rpg a group about playing in Tolkien’s Middle-Earth

There are also local and language dependent groups around. Many languages and regions have their own hierarchies for exchanges between locals and/or in other languages.

uk.games.roleplay group for roleplaying in the UK
de.rec.spiele.rpg.misc general group for discussions of RPGs in German
z-netz.freizeit.rollenspiele.dsa originally this was an Echo in a mailbox network, by now z-netz. is a small alternative German Usenet hierarchy. This particular one about Das Schwarze Auge/The Dark Eye
pl.rec.gry.rpg Polish-language group
es.rec.juegos.rol Spanish-language group
se.spel.rollspel Swedish-language group
dk.fritid.rollespil Danish-language group
fr.rec.jeux.jdf French-language group
it.hobby.giochi.gdr Italian-language group
hr.rec.igre.rpg Hungarian-language group
aus.games.roleplay Australian group

There are more, some of which I might not even find that easy because they are not on the servers I frequent (not all servers carry all groups) or are so specialized they might not be of interest to anyone but locals (e.g. saar.rec.rollenspiele exists, but I doubt many people in Saarland (the smallest of Germany’s federal states) still know Usenet exists)

Ok, ok, but how do you actually ACCESS this Usenet thingy?

That’s a bit more difficult, but not much. It used to be ISPs were all running their own news servers, this was actually the REASON you might want internet access as a private person, but that isn’t the case anymore. Google Groups is also going away, so that’s not a real option.

An easy way to check out what is being talked about on the FRP-hierarchy is campaignwiki.org/news. This server makes it possible to read and post on his own small server via a web-interface. The server is only running roleplaying-related groups, including the global FRP-hierarchy, and a few local ones that do not get carried in many other places.

Another way to access it via web browser is via web gateways. There are a few around, e.g. NovaBBS. There are a few of those around, but they might not carry all the groups (NovaBBS e.g. only rec.games.frp.dnd and .misc, because those are the ones with most activity).

The proper way to use it is of course by getting an account on a news server and adding it to your feed reader of choice. True hardcore users use terminal-based readers like tin or Gnus, but many Email programs like Mozilla Thunderbird allow you to subscribe to newsgroups.

View of rec.games.frp.dnd on campaignwiki.org in Thunderbird (https://gmkeros.files.wordpress.com/2024/01/thunderbird.png?w=1024)But where do you get a news server?

Well, there are multiple free options (these are all technically text-only, although a few have some basic binary groups that allow pictures):

campaignwiki.org/news (Switzerland) very small server, focused on ttrpg groups, also has simple web-portal
Eternal September (Germany) popular free access server with wide range of groups
I2PN2 simple text server
NovaBBS text server, as mentioned above also has web-portal
Solani (Germany) server
dotsrc (Denmark) focused on Danish users
Agency News (New Zealand) server
Chmurka (Poland) basic server focused on Polish users
CSIPH basic server
Open News Network (Germany) focused on German users
Gegeweb (France) focused on French users
Hispagatos (Spain) focused on Spanish users
Pasdenom (France) focused on French users
NNTP4 (Germany) basic server

Most of these have instructions on how to connect on their websites.

Note: This is a redo of an article I wrote 13 years ago. Originally I thought I could just let that one stand like that, but just briefly reading through it I noticed things had changed dramatically in some areas. So I rewrote the whole thing from scratch.

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