geophysicist ,

You don't die during interrogation with regular breaks for food, water, sleep etc. You die during torture

nogooduser ,

I guess that it was an unknown prior medical condition. /s

fluxion ,

Iran would be proud

Valthorn ,

So sad, Hamas using his life force as a hidden base. They truly know no shame!

Snowclone ,

Correct. It's clearly either torture or just aimless abuse.

JustZ ,
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In fact, people die all the time during every concievable activity without regard to breaks.

Linkerbaan ,
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Most moral army in the world systematically torturing doctors to death.

Guydht ,

Dude that's like blaming the U.S army for snowden.

The IDF and the Shin Bet are totally different entities

Linkerbaan ,
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The IDF kidnaps people and delivers them to Shin Bet...

Shin Bet tries to torture false confessions out of the doctors that there is a Hamas base underneath a hospital. And frequently tortures their hostages to death...

So the most moral army is systematically giving their hostages to people which they know will torture them to death....

If they know the Shin Bet does this they are complicit in it. Outsourcing the blame does not work.

Treczoks ,

Put it on the list for the ICC. This was not an "Interrogation".

JustZ ,
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Put what on the list? You literally don't even know what happened.

thallamabond ,

"A senior doctor from Gaza died last November under interrogation by the Shin Bet, Israel’s internal security service, six days after his detention, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported on Tuesday."

"He also said that “Rantisi was detained at an army checkpoint while attempting to cross from north to south Gaza, following the Israeli military’s orders for the civilian population to evacuate at the beginning of the war.”

“In a statement, the Shin Bet confirmed the details of Rantisi’s arrest and said he died in the detention center’s infirmary November 17, 2023,” the report noted."

Died in custody, someone should look into it.

JustZ ,
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Okay, where does that say how he died?

And did you also read the part of the article where there is a inquest being supervised by a court of law? Someone is looking into it. That's why you just read an article about it.

Weird how this article doesn't even name the case or give the docket number. You'd be able to go on the courts website and look it up.

Or, how about the court does its job, or we get a source to go on the record, then we write the news article? Then, we could react rationally.

If it turns out they beat him to death or he died from deprivation or something, and they don't , I'll join in calling for the heads of those responsible. I'm going to go ahead and wait until there is some actual information about how he died before I let my emotions run wild with speculation, definitely not going to put any stock into being angry at this stage of the case.

girlfreddy ,
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wE dOn'T kNoW wHaT hApPeNeD

qevlarr ,
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cOuLd hAvE bEeN nAtuRaL cAuSeS

BeatTakeshi ,
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He tried to breathe during unsolicited cpr

girlfreddy ,
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Riiiiight. That's why "after Rantisi’s death, the Ashkelon Magistrate’s Court issued a six-month gag order prohibiting publication of all details of the case, including the existence of the gag order”.

Nothing to hide here at all. No siree boss.

JustZ , (edited )
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What is suspicious about a public court of law conducting an inquest into a death in custody issuing a temporary gag order? It's not really even that uncommon of a legal procedure. Happens all the time.

Seems like the case is progressing to me. The gag order was lifted two months ago. Israel isn't some third-world shit hole with religious courts. These are actual, public courts of law, which dispense legit justice everyday without any help from lefty echo chambers filled by people rage jerking it to half of a story.

Literally everyone in this thread is reacting to something and they don't even know what it is.

Nobody here is upset about how the guy actually died, because nobody here knows that. They are upset because of how this half story was framed as nefarious even though there is no actual reported evidence to that effect; you're left to fill in the gaping holes in the story with your already existing anti-Israel imagination.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

🥾👅

JustZ ,
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What's the emoji equivalent of "you got tricked by a massive foreign influence campaign that's trying to reelect Donald Trump"?

Veraxus ,

I am so sick of these passive article titles. He was tortured to death. He was tortured and murdered. Call it what it is.

Dasus ,

Same.

It seems as childish as toddlers having broken something by throwing it forcefully on the floor and then pretending that they don't understand why the thing broke.

assassin_aragorn ,

I think they use passive headlines over concern about being sued for libel, but I agree. They really need to call the bluff, because if a party sues for libel, that party has to prove it's a willful lie. And that would be a very interesting discovery process.

girlfreddy ,
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After Rantisi’s death, “the Ashkelon Magistrate’s Court issued a six-month gag order prohibiting publication of all details of the case, including the existence of the gag order. The court order expired in May,” Haaretz reported.

The whole fucking system is screwed. Jfc.

PrincessLeiasCat ,

Not suspicious at all /s

anas ,

Only democracy in the Middle East, ladies and gentlemen.

febra ,

So he was tortured to death by the Israelis. He didn't just "die" like that. He was tortured to death. Call it for what it is

urfavlaura ,

Prominent Palestinian doctor, Iyad Rantisi, was tortured to death by Israel

andrewrgross ,
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This is so, so fucked up.

It's hard to grieve effectively in the face of so many tragedies. Here is another one.

Ranvier ,

Horrible.

Just want to add another source here from an Israeli news source (Hareetz) also reporting all the major points from the above article.

https://archive.is/IZNtf
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-06-18/ty-article/.premium/israel-arrested-a-senior-doctor-in-gaza-six-days-later-he-died-in-a-shin-bet-facility/00000190-27eb-d14b-a999-27eb9aea0000

Probably not a surprise, but the suspicious uninvestigated deaths don't end there.

Maggoty ,

This is totally normal. People die under interrogation all the time in oppressive authoritarian countries. I don't know why Iran and Israel are fighting when they have so much in common.

xc2215x ,

Very sad to see him go out this way.

Keeponstalin ,
werefreeatlast ,

I got no horse in this race because I'm from Mexico and the USA, well maybe I got a pony since you'd have to drag me back to Mexico. But I digress.... let me correct the tit-Le. It should be "prominent Palestinian doctor, Iyad Rantisi (sounds like he really liked rants like me), was murdered while in custody by the Israeli army as they tortured him in a fake interrogation mostly a thinly veiled murder made to look like an interrogation. It's a long title but it gets the message across.

helmet91 ,

I mean, if the words "Israel" and "interrogation" are in it, it pretty clearly conveys what you just described.

assassin_aragorn ,

Yeah he was absolutely tortured to death. Fucking disgusting.

Feliskatos ,

And the White House is baffled by Netanyahu's claim about not supplying enough weapons to Israel. Is torture allowed under the Geneva Conventions?

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