That's the beauty of it, the deal isn't for an end to the genocide, just a temporary pause so that Israeli hostages can be exchanged for Palestinian ones.
And then presumably the released Palestinians will be bombed.
Lol, wth is this bullshit? We're past the point of this kind of propaganda having any kind of effect, dude. They fucking double tapped World Central Kitchen workers who were in contact with the IDF to make sure their route was approved.
No, the IDF are child killers because they kill indiscriminately.
The children are not Hamas. The World Central Kitchen workers are not Hamas. The medics, doctors and patients in hospitals are not Hamas. The people cut down while following Israel's evacuation orders are not Hamas.
Yeah, and I'm sure they're dumb enough to fall for it the eighth time. Israel's definitely done genociding this time, they pinkie promised they won't come back and finish the job in another two decades when everyone forgets again. If only Hamas could be more reasonable and just accept Israel's incredibly generous offer to return to the status quo of Israeli settlers stealing Palestinian land and killing them when they protest!
If only Hamas could be more reasonable and just accept Israel’s incredibly generous offer to return to the status quo of Israeli settlers stealing Palestinian land and killing them when they protest!
As opposed to the current situation of Israeli settlers stealing Palestinian land and killing them even when they don't protest?
Fuck, the solution to being a captive who believes they will be killed isn't to put your captor's gun to your head and tell them to pull the trigger. If you're operating off of the assumption that a ceasefire is unacceptable short of Israeli capitulation to Palestinian demands, regardless of how justified, despite the fact that they have overwhelming superiority at this point in time and are on the cusp of completing their long-awaited genocide... I don't really know what the fuck to tell you.
That's not what I'm accusing you of. I got that you're pro-Palestinian, very clearly. I'm saying that Hamas is not in a strategically good situation, and if your opinion is that any ceasefire offers should be categorically refused by Hamas unless Hamas's demands are met, despite Hamas currently being in a very bad position relative to Israel forces, and the intensified state of the Israeli genocide, you're not being realistic.
Any ceasefire that is accepted will necessarily favor Israel at this point, because Israel controls half of Gaza completely and is on the cusp of starving hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to death. Not to mention the damage done to Hamas's material capacities to resist. I don't know that accepting this ceasefire is the right strategic choice, but I am certain that "Continue fighting until Palestinian independence is achieved in this phase of the Israel-Palestinian conflict" rather than accepting that not every battle is won in a decades-long war is just suicide on a national scale.
despite Hamas currently being in a very bad position relative to Israel forces
Hamas barely lost any top ranking officers. Meanwhile israel is losing international support at lightning speed.
The only one with their backs against the wall right now is israel. If they aren't going to come through with a Palestinian state then Hamas doesn't have much to lose right now by just dragging israel through the mud further.
but right now, Hamas is actually getting what it wants for the first time ever. People are now actually demanding an end to the Israeli apartheid, even though the genocide was happening long before October 7th. They're no longer suffering in silence, there are members of the West that support Palestine now. That is a massive, massive difference compared to conflicts like the 2014 Gazan War or the many Intifadas, where Israel committed many of the same war crimes today but faced zero consequences internationally for them.
At the same time, the West has the memory of a goldfish. If Hamas cedes now, and we do the dance of both sides planning up for a future conflict again, how can Hamas trust that they'll receive Western support again? How can they know they won't be villified, and Israel won't get away with just committing more warcrimes on them? How do they even know there will be a next time, that Israel won't strike first next time and exterminate all that remains of Palestine, after another few years of illegal settlements concentrates the population even further?
Their best bet is to maintain the current conflict for as long as possible, and hope that international support doesn't just require Israel to agree to a mutually beneficial ceasefire, but also that international support adds some guard rails to prevent such force from being used against Palestine again. You're correct that it's unreasonable to think that this conflict will end with a two-state solution, or really any solution at all. That doesn't mean Hamas should accept a spit in the face, which is exactly what the current ceasefire terms are.
I don’t see how this is even particularly generous. It’s a 40 day slowdown in genocide and an agreement for Hamas to release prisoners in exchange for Israel temporarily releasing hostages that historically they just re-abduct within days anyways. And then after 40 days it’s full speed ahead of civilian slaughter again, probably with a freshly regrouped and re-armed IOF.
Since the Battle of Gaza in 2007, Hamas has used Palestinians as human shields, turned their hospitals and schools into war zones by shooting rockets from rooftops, and are currently stealing humanitarian aid and selling it to the Palestinians at extortionate prices. You honestly can’t be serious.
Edit: NATO has documented multiple violations of the Geneva Convention by Hamas putting innocent civilians in harms way, as stated above. Neither the IDF nor Hamas care to protect Palestinians.
Not only that, if they actually read the article, it’s just vague accusations from Israel and NATO, absolutely nothing specific, followed by a bunch of analysis that shows the claims are inaccurate and intentionally misleading.
Israel temporarily releasing hostages that historically they just re-abduct within days
Can you explain this or link something? I know Israel imprisoning Palestinians for years without charges is monstrous but I haven't heard of them doing this after prisoner exchanges.
I could have worded it better. I’m not necessarily saying that Israel will re-abduct the exact same Palestinians within a few days, but rather than Israel is constantly taking hostages. Israel could agree to release 100 hostages, but what’s the point when they’ll end up abducting 200 more the following week. It’s why prisoner swaps with Israel heavily favor Israel, they see hostages as a renewable ressource.
