SirEDCaLot ,

Hopefully this starts to shed some light on the travesty that is 'squatters rights'.
Squatters shouldn't have rights.

aniki ,

Immigrants aren't people. you, probably

twistypencil ,

Yeah, a bunch of people should be disenfranchised arbitrarily by someone on the internet! Let's go! Oh yeah who cares about people anyway!

SirEDCaLot ,

Where the hell are you getting any of that from what I said?
I am saying that if you don't own a building, and otherwise have no rights to that building, just because you barge in and lock the door doesn't mean you should own the building or have any rights to that building whatsoever. The police should go in and arrest you.

Inui ,

I'm on board if businesses are first forced to sell property that is unused for a significant length of time. There are commercial buildings around me that have been closed and boarded up for 5 years after the last business left. Good for anyone who makes use of it instead of letting it rot.

saltesc ,

He has an abandoned restaurant in Brisbane, Australia too—at least last time I was there not too long ago.

I went a few years back when it opened and it was a let down. Seemed to be run by someone that had no idea how to make a menu and run a restaurant. Solid 6/10. Just "some place".

JackFrostNCola ,

Maybe he needs to start a show called "Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares of Ramsey Kitchens" and fix all the restaurants he has started that have been mismanaged.

sandman ,

Lol, good.

Ilovethebomb ,

According to government guidance, squatters can apply to become the registered owners of a property if they have occupied it continuously for 10 years, acted as owners for the whole of that time and had not previously been given permission to live there by the owner.

Interesting loophole. Can you prove the squatters were not given verbal permission by the owner?

Also, the fact that a group of people can help themselves to a property that is vacant for good reason and have legal protection is kinda bullshit.

GregorGizeh ,

I'd say its a lot less bullshit than having empty spaces while people are homeless.

Ilovethebomb ,

It's a restaurant, not exactly set up for accommodation.

GregorGizeh ,

You're right of course, but the general point stands. Why can they squat in there if its used at all and not just collecting dust?

Ilovethebomb ,

Largely because squatters usually trash and destroy any property they squat in, or at best leave it full of litter.

Very few actually take any care of the property whatsoever.

twistypencil ,

Citation needed. As someone who has lived in pretty well kept squats in the Netherlands, I wonder wtf bubble you are in

Kbobabob ,

Interesting. The title says hotel

Ilovethebomb ,

The British are weird with names.

sandman ,

Also, the fact that a group of people can help themselves to a property that is vacant for good reason and have legal protection is kinda bullshit.

If you have someone living on your property for 10 years without you knowing, that's your fault. Clearly their presence isn't that big of a deal.

Ilovethebomb ,

They have legal protection well before ten years though, this website outlines it.

https://www.complete-ltd.com/landlord-library-squatters-rights/

If the squatter has been in the property for more than 28 days or is in a commercial property, the landlord will need to file a claim for possession in court. This is a more complex process and can take several months to complete.

It sounds like an absolute nightmare if you're renovating or between tenancies with a commercial property.

sandman ,

That honestly aligns more with what I've heard in the past.

I thought the US had a similar set up, but I may be wrong.

I'm curious what the rationale is given for these laws. Is it just a remnant of squatter's rights, when people could just up and stay in truly abandoned locations until they practically owned it?

Ilovethebomb ,

Not practically, they actually can own it in the UK.

atx_aquarian ,
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The occupation of a person’s non-residential property without their permission is not a crime in England

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edit: TIL! Thanks for reminding me that if something seems far out, chances are that my understanding just hasn't caught up.

thallamabond ,

These are old laws, and maybe good ones depending on perspective. My understanding is that property should be used if abandoned.

sharkfucker420 ,
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