partial_accumen ,

Since the collapse of peace talks between Ukraine and Russia in April-May 2022

This was just 2 to 3 months after Bucha massacre and this rag has the gal to call what Russia has ever offered as "peace". Total bullshit.

gigachad ,

Aaron Maté is a Canadian writer and journalist. [...] Maté works as a reporter for The Grayzone, a far-left news website and blog, which publishes supportive coverage of the Russian, Syrian, and Chinese governments.

The_Che_Banana ,
@The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org avatar

Oooooohhhhhhhh

....yeah

jimmydoreisalefty ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

You quote some information about Aaron Maté and you mention The Grayzone, but you missed the best part...

The Grayzone is a far-right and far-left news website and blog founded and edited by American journalist Max Blumenthal.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f45fab68-2489-48df-a5cc-d97356446cc0.jpeg

Tar_alcaran ,

Wut? How?

Burstar Mod ,
@Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

What evidence? I see zero reference to any evidence other than the word in the title. Nonsense.
Reading the NYT article (which should have been the actual article not this blog post BS) the closest you get to anything Western related for breaking the negotiations is their advice that the initial tentative agreements 'were tantamount to capitulation'. Negotiations proceeded long after that point and 2 key issues with them are attributed to their breakdown:

  1. Putin's micromanaging of his negotiation team led the Ukranian side to doubt the negotiations were anything but a stall tactic, and

  2. A deal-breaking Russian amendment to Ukraine's Article 5-esque 'guarantors will come to the aid of Ukraine if they are attacked again in the future' which essentially gave Russia a veto.

;tldr the only evidence provided by this blog post BS is for Russia not negotiating in good faith, and definitively being the one that spoiled the talks with a garbage ally defence veto amendment which strongly indicated they had every intention of doing all this again anyways no matter what the agreement said (their SOP.

Old_Geezer OP ,
@Old_Geezer@lemmy.ml avatar

the only evidence provided by this blog post BS is for Russia not negotiating in good faith, and definitively being the one that spoiled the talks with a garbage ally defence veto amendment which strongly indicated they had every intention of doing all this again anyways no matter what the agreement said (their SOP

Where did you find this in the article? You NAFOs certainly have little intelligence. How much are you paid to be a shill for the US Deep State?

Burstar Mod ,
@Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I actually read the referenced articles.

crapaud ,
@crapaud@mstdn.social avatar

@Old_Geezer
I dunno about the other but I've been having trouble getting through to HR at Langley to complain about my pay.
@Burstar

Burstar Mod ,
@Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Thank you for making my job a little easier today :)

hanrahan ,
@hanrahan@slrpnk.net avatar

How much are you paid to be a shill for the US Deep State?

About tree fiddy!

baglodush ,

@Old_Geezer
This account was created on April 19 and has only Russian propaganda.
That looks like a Russian account to spread there lies!

Old_Geezer OP ,
@Old_Geezer@lemmy.ml avatar

That looks like a Russian account to spread there lies

Looks like, but ain't. Prove these are lies, but don't look at the facts. Nothing like sticking yer head in the sand and denying the obvious that Ukraine has lost and will only lose more young men. This never had to happen. When will you learn that the US is using you for cannon fodder and don't give a shit about Ukraine? They'll walk away after the elections in November and wash their hands of you, just like Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. Fight to the last Ukrainian!

homesweethomeMrL ,

Ohh ok. This and the punisher-logo website from the geopolitics community post; now I see you’re a lemmy.ml uh, person, so no.

Blocked, thanks.

bobburger ,

Probably should block @TheEmpororHasNoClothes too while you're at it

jabathekek ,
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

Any form of peace on the aggressors terms will not last very long at all. It's merely a way for them to rebuild their military until such point they can resume their offensive.

TheEmpororHasNoClothes ,
@TheEmpororHasNoClothes@mas.to avatar

@Old_Geezer

It took 32 minutes to get attacked by ukraine bots- they're slowing down!

Old_Geezer OP ,
@Old_Geezer@lemmy.ml avatar

It took 32 minutes to get attacked by ukraine bots- they’re slowing down

Your understanding of what a bot is, needs some improvement.

Doom ,

shut the fuck up bot

Buffalox ,

The country blocking peace is 100% Russia and ONLY Russia. Russia go home is absolutely the quickest and most sensible route to peace.
Russians are the Nazis and Putin is as bad as Hitler.

Old_Geezer OP , (edited )
@Old_Geezer@lemmy.ml avatar

Russians are the Nazis and Putin is as bad as Hitler

Read a history book, mate. You might learn something. FYI, it's a known fact that the Galician Ukrainians served in the Waffen-SS during WW2 and committed many atrocities. Such ignorance of facts.

Burstar Mod ,
@Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Fact: WWII was almost 8 decades ago. Japan, France, Italy, Brazil all are not Nazis.

Every nation has an element of Far-Right wackadoodles in their midst. To call Ukrainians nazis is as racist as calling Poles communists because they were a part of the USSR 40 years ago.

Buffalox , (edited )

How is that even remotely relevant to Russia invading Ukraine completely unprovoked in 2014, and again in 2022?
If you side with Nazi Russia, that's your choice. But it's self destructive and insane.
Because of Putins imperialistic dreams, Russia will now have poverty as the Soviet era, so in that way Putin will achieve his goal of bringing Russia back to the lack of greatness of the Soviet Empire.

migo ,
@migo@social.anoxinon.de avatar
Tar_alcaran ,

This (I assume bot) replied to the same post twice, are you running it in multiple accounts?

migo Bot ,
sunzu ,
MyPornViewingAccount ,

Yes, when the Ukrainians realized:

  1. They could win
  2. Help was on the way
Old_Geezer OP ,
@Old_Geezer@lemmy.ml avatar

Dream on. Fight to the last Ukrainian.

Eheran ,

What is their alternative? Get slaughtered in their homes like with those living in bucha? Sounds great. Better not fight.

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