GottaLaff ,
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Via Roger Parloff:

#Trump jurors' news sources. (More watch BBC than Fox. Not one reads NY Daily News--ouch.) From
nytimes:
https://bit.ly/3xKEg4L

#TrumpTrial

Giddey_up ,
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@GottaLaff So much for the “failing New York Times” LOL
#trumptrial

cherold ,
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@GottaLaff wow, I guess pretty much everyone here reads the Times. I didn't realize.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@cherold Yeah, that got my attention too

cherold ,
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@GottaLaff I looked again and realized the New Yorker's who don't read the Times either don't follow the news at all or get news from TikTok or Google! It's wild. And perhaps a sign of how extra terrible it is that the news site everyone in NYC visits employs so many trash op-ed columnists.

nlpbot ,
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@GottaLaff I would preclude the WSJ readers - it's a right wing rag.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@nlpbot The opinion section is. Their reporting is pretty good. I use it here all the time, and it's been reliable.

GhostOnTheHalfShell ,
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@GottaLaff I know it’s only a statistical perhaps of the jury pool population in general, but the Gray Lady still central..

GottaLaff OP ,
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@GhostOnTheHalfShell Also comes to mind more easily because of its presence.

gkemp ,
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@GottaLaff Give it up for juror #4 who doesn't follow the news AT ALL.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@gkemp Yeah, blank squares. Amazing.

CatHerder ,
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@GottaLaff
That's a bizarre survey. AP and Reuters are my two top sources.
Military times is not even listed. Neither is the Atlantic. The survey also doesn't include the bulk of the lunatic fringe offerings.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@CatHerder "The questionnaire also let them mention media not on the list, or say that they don’t follow the news."

It was an open question about what news they consume, not a survey where they list the various sources and ask what they think.

CatHerder ,
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@GottaLaff

Oh, good! Thanks.

RockyC ,
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@GottaLaff No . Interesting.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@RockyC And no Reuters, AP, other magazines... Maybe they just couldn't think of them, or got nervous, or who knows.

A lot of strange choices, IMHO.

markmetz ,
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@GottaLaff

two’s sources are X and Truth Social? 🧐

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tc_morekindness ,
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@GottaLaff Well, FWIW, the one who watches Fox also watches MSNBC. (But reads the Daily Mail, so could be problematic, on balance.)

fortboise ,
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@GottaLaff J-4 and A-2 = "No news is good news!"

Also, it's weird to see what the open-ended question produced for the meta "I call this news"

mrbruno ,
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@GottaLaff Yikes. #2 looks like a wild one.

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CuriousMagpie ,
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@GottaLaff They probably read the NY Post for sports - I’d go with the NY Daily News before even glancing at the Post.

JonChevreau ,
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@GottaLaff Juror 12 listens to “faith-based podcasts.” Oh oh.

NoctisEqui ,
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@JonChevreau @GottaLaff

Can they sequester the jury? It only takes one. Is there no justice? I can’t deal with another train wreck. It makes me glad I’m old & won’t live to see the results of triumphant Fascism destroying the world as we knew it.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@NoctisEqui @JonChevreau Ugh!!

And yes, they can, but likely won't.

JonChevreau ,
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@GottaLaff @NoctisEqui likely can what?

GottaLaff OP ,
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@JonChevreau @NoctisEqui Be sequestered.

Lizette603_23 ,
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@GottaLaff It's an ad for the NYT

oldgeek ,
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@GottaLaff are these the only news sources they were asked about?

JudyOlo ,
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@GottaLaff
"News" from Truth Social? What does that even mean? News, really? 🤦‍♂️😪🙄

GottaLaff OP ,
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@JudyOlo The prosecution vetted these people too, so I’m guessing they said something like they read it at one time, or currently, to see what’s out there, but not necessarily more than that.

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WagesOf ,
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@GottaLaff how to show ads to Trump jurors; a graphic sin by nyt.

Ralph058 ,
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@GottaLaff I'm concerned about #1 reading Daily Mail.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Ralph058 Me too. & also “X”…

Also the Truth Social one.

Ralph058 ,
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@GottaLaff Especially where it's their only source of news.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@Ralph058 It isn’t. Twitter was their other. 🤦🏻‍♀️Help!

JeanPoole_AZ ,
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@GottaLaff @Ralph058 Several media outlets have identified #1 as “the foreperson.” Do you know if this is just a temporary designation until members of the jury elect someone to represent them?

Ralph058 ,
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@JeanPoole_AZ @GottaLaff In New York, the first seat is the foreman. There is no election.

JeanPoole_AZ ,
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@Ralph058 @GottaLaff Ugh. The Daily Mail, Fox News guy.

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raynetoday ,
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@GottaLaff Yikes. Three news sources cited by five jurors on the list are Murdoch properties: NYPost, Fox, WSJ.

Google and Facebook aren't news sources but aggregators, so we don't know that the five jurors who cited it as a source are also consuming Murdoch media through those platforms.

TikTok, X, and Truth Social may have news outlets but who knows if they're consuming more Murdoch through those sites.

Ugh.

GottaLaff OP ,
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@raynetoday The prosecution vetted these people too, so I’m guessing they said something like they read it at one time, or currently, to see what’s out there, but not necessarily more than that.

Otherwise, why would the prosecution accept them?

raynetoday ,
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@GottaLaff I suspect having already lost a sizeable number of juror candidates when they were asked if they could be fair, they couldn't weed too finely on media.

There are two whose media consumption is sketchy -- [2] who relies on Truth Social and X, and [5] who claimed Google and TikTok. Number [2] is worrisome.

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  • GottaLaff OP ,
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    raynetoday ,
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    @GottaLaff LOL I'd seen that in your feed and I'm still laughing about it. This trial might be more entertaining than I've expected.

    GottaLaff OP ,
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    @raynetoday Expect the unexpected, which has already been messing with us.

    jawarajabbi ,
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    @GottaLaff

    That juror #2 is a problem. Truth Social and X? How'd they let him (gotta ba a him) on?

    GottaLaff OP ,
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    @jawarajabbi The prosecution vetted these people too, so I’m guessing they said something like they read it at one time, or currently, to see what’s out there, but not necessarily more than that.

    jawarajabbi ,
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    @GottaLaff

    I'm sure that's true but still a bit jarring.

    GottaLaff OP ,
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    @jawarajabbi Oh def. To me too. But I have to believe DOJ knows what they’re doing.

    tiamat271 ,
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    @GottaLaff @jawarajabbi I wouldn’t worry about it too much. As far as I can tell, Juror 2 is this person:

    me_valentijn ,
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    @jawarajabbi @GottaLaff

    #2 replaced the nurse who was worried about being IDed, so was added a little later in the process. The prosecution would have had fewer peremptory challenges left by then (if any), and may have wanted to save them for potential jurors with more red flags 🤷‍♀️

    It's also possible they'd already looked into him a bit, and found that data reassuring.

    GottaLaff OP ,
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    me_valentijn ,
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    ottaross ,
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    @GottaLaff Drat - no Mastodonians. I hoped we'd have a hand in the proceedings.

    lawyersgunsnmoney ,
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    @GottaLaff Somebody reading Truth Social is a bad sign, IMO. Wonder if its the same person that watches Fox News.

    GottaLaff OP ,
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    @lawyersgunsnmoney You can see if it is on the chart. It’s not.

    lawyersgunsnmoney ,
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    @GottaLaff Didn't that its broken down by juror - thank you.

    GottaLaff OP ,
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    @lawyersgunsnmoney Sorry? I didn’t understand that sentence.

    “Didn’t that it’s ….”

    And you’re very welcome.

    lawyersgunsnmoney ,
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    @GottaLaff "see" - still working on my first cup of coffee :)

    GottaLaff OP ,
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    @lawyersgunsnmoney Ah! Of course!!

    Yes, I can relate, lol

    Probertd8 ,
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    @GottaLaff I like this jury.

    GottaLaff OP ,
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    @Probertd8 I’m neutral on it. Fox and Truth Social bother me.

    Probertd8 ,
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    @GottaLaff Well as a Brit I'm proud of the BBC - even though it has received some deserved criticism recently.

    GottaLaff OP ,
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    @Probertd8 Well that’s good!

    Probertd8 ,
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    @GottaLaff The Weather Channel???

    GottaLaff OP ,
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    @Probertd8 They were bought out a few years ago, too, as I recall.

    I guess weather is non-partisan. But the owners aren’t (if I’m remembering correctly)

    me_valentijn ,
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    @GottaLaff @Probertd8

    Agreed. Daily Mail (England) also posts a ton of rage-bait, and is massively transphobic. But I think that's the Irish juror, so maybe more a habitual reader rather than seeking it out for that specific content, as some American extremists do.

    deborahh ,
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    @GottaLaff @Probertd8 at least the Fox person has a varied media diet. That the Truth Social juror has no other sources, otoh … 🙁

    Edit: actually, Fox and X
    🤦‍♀️ even worse.

    GottaLaff OP ,
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    @deborahh At least Twitter has a diverse following. They're exposed to other ideas. @Probertd8

    Probertd8 ,
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    @GottaLaff @deborahh X Twitter.

    Sarahw ,
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    @GottaLaff @Probertd8
    So should the daily mail. Filthy hate rag.

    GottaLaff OP ,
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    @Sarahw Yes, that too. @Probertd8

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