alice , (edited )
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⚠️ It's a trap ⚠️ (please boost for reach)

I was just informed that the Guardian (UK) is prepping to do a story on DIY HRT and is looking to interview trans folk, particularly teens.

The story will almost certainly be weaponized by conservatives to argue for removing access to the necessary materials.

Just like with the police, anything you say can and will be used against you by mainstream media.

Be safe out there fam :heart_trans: :Blobhaj_Hug:


Update #2: God dammit Guardian US, I retract my kudos to you. This is why we can't have nice things.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/11/the-guardian-view-on-the-cass-report-rising-numbers-of-gender-distressed-young-people-need-help

Update #1: I wanted to share this article that was brought to my attention. The US Guardian wrote a piece that really gets to the heart of why I'm sounding a warning, while also helping to frame that this isn't directed at the .com Guardian—they seem to have a healthy viewpoint on how trans people should be treated.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/02/guardian-editorial-response-transgender-rights-uk

kali ,
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@alice fuck i always thought the guardian was pretty good. jesus christ. havent seen anything bad from Guardian Australia.... yet

normjess ,
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@alice
people think the Guardian is left wing because its more left than the rest of right wing media, but its actually a centrist paper which engages in both-sides-ism, running stories for and against stuff

they did it with women having the right to vote, back when they were just the Manchester Guardian, running articles by people who were for and against, and they are doing the same thing for trans rights

they will claim otherwise retrospectively, once social progress - which comes not from debate but by scaring the establishment or forcing their hand - penetrates the upper class schools they source talent from

but they are not the champion of the left people assume, and one need only peruse the comments section to see a worrying lack of progressive values

women's rights, trans rights, etc is not a debate, its a question of human rights and human dignity

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  • insidertreat ,
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    @alice :BlobhajfBlobbyHug:

    MMusselwhite ,
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    @alice I don't like the implication that newspapers, and possibly billionaires are aware of DIY HRT; it uneases me slightly!

    Like I'm on DIY right now, I don't do blood tests (I know that I need to get on that sharp-ish), however I went down this route after extensive research because quite frankly I didn't like the hoops and the invasive questions going down the official path!

    I know it's a legally and morally grey area, but I'm convinced it's best for what I'm after. I don't want population in general finding out because of the implications that'll cause people like me... 😅

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  • MMusselwhite ,
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    @alice If the UK government stops living in the Stone Age and implement an “informed consent” model (unlikely) - I’ll consider it! 😅 /gen

    alexadeswift ,
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    @alice ugh, absolutely fucking shit Grauniad US, Gender Dysphoria does not exist as a disease per ICD-11 and if trans kids are given appropriate treatment according to their individual needs IAW international best practice per WPATH Standards of Care, then they will likely never BE dysphoric.

    It is fucking simple!

    fiadh ,
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    @alice Retract that update. You linked to an article from 2018.

    Here they are today promoting the Cass Report and urging bans on trans healthcare: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/11/the-guardian-view-on-the-cass-report-rising-numbers-of-gender-distressed-young-people-need-help

    Nuncio ,
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    @alice
    Waiting for the GOP to ban clean water for everyone because trans people might need it.

    cuchaz ,
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    @alice :ackbar:

    dgoldsmith ,
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    @alice Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any way to support the US Guardian but not the UK Guardian.

    polly ,
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    @alice informed by who? I saw the 4chan post about it, but like do people actually have a reliable source for the claim that the guardian is talking to people?

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  • polly ,
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    @alice Yeah I mean it's good advice, which is why I wrote my own messages about this without the claim that the guardian was writing about this. It's not far fetched, but also wouldn't be crazy hard to document. So I'm surprised it's not documented anywhere. Something simple like "this journalist is contacting people" or "here is a screenshot of the question they asked someone" wouldn't be hard to show, I imagine.

    f4grx ,
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    @alice stock while you can :/

    lucy ,
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    @alice not from the UK, so requesting more info, The Guardian is not perceived as anti trans media around here, comparing the guardian and the police sounds alarming, what made you raise the alarm ?

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  • lucy ,
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    @alice thank you so much, anyway, idk if diy teenagers are legal, so yeah maybe don't talk to the press,

    zomka ,
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    @alice I’m not on HRT and not knowledgeable about it at all but isn’t DIY HRT really risky? I don’t know much about it but that’s what I heard… :blobcatthink:
    Would be glad to learn more about it.

    RebelGeek99 ,
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    @alice I mean, we're already doing DIY eugenics as public health throughout the West, so that's not at all a far fetched conclusion . It won't be just conservatives, they'll be aided and abetted by moderate centrists, once that gains traction across the pond in the US (which it almost certainly will).

    DeltaWye ,
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    @alice All I can think of is the r/antiwork Fox News fiasco.

    CrypticMirror ,
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    @alice Don't talk to the cops, don't talk to reporters. Especially not the Grauniad, at least the Daily Heil or the Scum are upfront about their bigotry.

    #TransLifesMatter #TransRights #TransRightsAreHumanRights #LGBTQ #LGBT #HRT #UKPolitics

    Beeks ,
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    @alice Name the writer so we can inform/shame them as needed?

    cariad ,
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    @alice It's so weird seeing the reactions from folks who've never noticed The Guardian's weird transphobia. Thanks for the heads-up!

    kritischelezer ,
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    @alice This is an unfair generalisation of 'mainstream media'. I see no reason why to distrust The Guardian, I only know their reporting as fair and balanced. It's my go-to news source for balanced climate change reporting, for example. We don't do decent journalists a favour if we toss them all on the same pile. We need less polarisation, not more.

    arborelia ,
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    @kritischelezer @alice The Guardian UK is extremely anti-trans, so much that the Guardian US wrote a mild op-ed trying to call them out on it.

    If you don't have experience with this, listen to the people who do.

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  • arborelia ,
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    @alice @kritischelezer Dang I wish I could see edited posts on Mastodon.

    Horrific to hear that even the US subsidiary fell into transphobia.

    arborelia ,
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    @kritischelezer @alice And "we need less polarization" is emphatically NOT the thing to say here.

    "oh can't we just compromise on whether gender transition should be criminalized?" No! We cannot!

    ROMSY ,

    @alice second time i see those posts on fedi but nobody gives us here a source...

    i mean i understand that in some countries people have to treat Press like cops..
    but without any reliable source material i "press x to doubt" on everything that attacks the press.

    Hunterrules0_o ,
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    @alice
    >diy hrt for making life changing drugs without doctors approval at home
    yeah no.... I can understand if a doctor and parent approves but a diy version where teens can make it at home without any approval seems dangerous. let alone the fact that if something goes wrong

    AeonCypher ,
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    @Hunterrules0_o @alice The real story, for any newpaper that was serious about this would be, "Anti-Trans laws forcing kids into dangerous self-medication"

    ComradeGibbon ,

    @alice Never talk to journalists for any reason. Avoid.

    Seriously if you value your quiet life do not.

    angiebaby ,
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    @alice Replace "Guardian" with "JK Rowling" and do with both as you would do the latter.

    rachel ,
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    @alice if anyone really is determined to speak to a journalist, I had the dubious pleasure of getting BBC media training and would be happy to spend some time with them explaining how things work. Basically, what they are getting into.

    xaphania ,
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    @alice just remember, if a journo asks you about DIY HRT, this is the only correct response

    Natsura ,
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    @xaphania @alice HRT? Is that the new boyband the kiddos are into these days?

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