alex ,
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The “great” thing about England is that when these articles come out and you google the person who wrote them it’s not something boring like “their dad is a trust fund manager” it’s “their dad is a baron, their grandfather edited the newspaper this appears in, and their family founded the private Bank of England

*all true of this writer

Npars01 ,
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@alex

"Young people are refusing to work unpaid overtime like their parents did

We will label them 'lazy' until they agree to work for free again

The young can't afford homes or afford to start families, so our traditional methods of coercive capitalism isn't working like it used to

The generation never got launched into life with the help of their parents because the orchestration of the 2008 financial crash wiped out a generation's savings"

Npars01 , (edited )
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@alex

The wealthy have been griping about laziness in the lower classes since forever.

Turn the argument on its head:
"A generation that will never afford a home thanks to a rapacious 1%, has decided to work their designated hours at their designated pay level.

This is upsetting the leisure class that relied on labor exploitation to keep their wealth."

https://truthout.org/articles/the-laziness-and-irresponsibility-of-the-working-class/

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/07/nyregion/hamptons-workers-long-island.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ik0.WGNI.VneBbrmEVByM&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&ugrp=u&sgrp=c-cb

Paul Fairie has newspaper clippings going back 100 years...
https://mstdn.ca/@paulisci/111511518653607726

Npars01 ,
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@alex

The long history of rich people complaining that no one wants jobs that are low wage with poor working conditions.

In effect, the rich complain that the poor aren't helping the rich stay rich.

What happens when workers balk and refuse to participate in a system that immiserates themselves and only benefits one side?

https://zarah-ceu.org/bitter-years-of-exploitation-domestic-workers-unorganized-labour-struggles-1890s-1938/

https://daily.jstor.org/how-america-tried-and-failed-to-solve-its-servant-problem/

vfrmedia ,
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@Npars01 @alex the whole claim of the article is also pure bullshit - Gen Z employees are better behaved and hard working when treated well, and aren't as distracted by drugs/alcohol or outright untrustworthy as Gen X (I'm Gen X and can remember how most of our generation where often hungover or either coming down from or still on drugs during working hours, and theft from employers was rife, that was the other side of the "hustle"..

Npars01 ,
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@vfrmedia @alex

Several industries rely on employees being high for their profits.

Oil field workers & meth or speed - to keep workers working long hours unsafely.

Finance workers & cocaine - to give workers that god-complex to make risky decisions that crash the economy or bankrupt millions.

Sales workers & alcohol - to wine & dine clients that end marriages and make parents into strangers to their families.

vfrmedia ,
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@Npars01 @alex in UK this started being clamped down on by the mid 2000s and by the 2010s new DUI laws tested for drugs as well as alcohol so nowadays these industries are a lot "cleaner" outside the cities (as they generally involve driving to and from workplaces, and you can test positive days after taking anything). It has however led to a whole load of miserable, angry folk who have substituted alcohol for the drugs (as that clears the system a lot quicker)

Npars01 ,
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@vfrmedia @alex

There's a vast difference between what happens on the job at American corporations & what is supposed to happen according to regulations.

In several examples, simply transferring ownership to a foreign held subsidiary can negate regulation & oversight.

When no one on-site speaks the language of the safety inspector or the supervisor changes every few weeks, it's easy to forestall worker safety enforcement.

Also bribery of the inspector is very commonplace

vfrmedia ,
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@Npars01 @alex the UK is not only stricter regulated, but physically way smaller, all major roads covered by CCTV and citizens really love dashcams and door cameras. Its often not workplace testing which gets folk caught, but they are sleep deprived/feeling sketchy after a heavy weekend, commit a minor traffic violation and are spotted by cops (or someone with a dashcam uploads their footage to one of various "extra eyes" portals), and they are nicked for DUI and banned for 1-3 years

onepict ,
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@alex wait that's a real name?

Just sometimes with names like that, I do wonder if we're in a simulation. Like that name seems so made up.

Then I remember that England really still is Medieval Fun time land.

cstross ,
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@onepict @alex

I HAD to look it up, and while she doesn't have a wikipedia page of her own she's mentioned on her dad's wiki page (Crispin Money-Coutts, 9th Baron Latymer).

The English establishment is beyond self-parody (even before you get to the likes of Richard Grosvenor Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax).

cstross ,
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@onepict @alex It helps to know that Coutts bank used to hold British banking license 002 (001 was the Bank of England), customer number one was the Monarch, it takes a deposit on the order of a million quid to open an account there, and ... you get the picture.

onepict ,
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@cstross @alex I think people tend to forget that when we mean the establishment, some of that establishment came over with the Normans.

faab64 ,

@alex I was too stupid to fight for my rights, so those who are doing it are "lazy"

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