loren , (edited )
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should i actually sign photo prints i'm selling in person?

loren OP ,
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relatedly, does anyone know of a good white pen for writing on photo paper?

jencmars ,
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@loren I don't know of any good white pens off the top of my head, but you can purchase acrylic ink (which will dry nicely on any kind of paper) and then empty pens/markers to put it in. I'm thinking specifically of Daler Rowney, which makes my favorite acrylic ink and sells some easy to use, soft-tip markers in varying sizes (though people do love fountain pens, I just don't use them). Art stores carry them, or you can just order online.

loren OP ,
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@jencmars oo okay cool! i just am really only seeing recommended pens for photo paper in black and was like but what if i want my signature to be white?? haha if no one has a good pre made solution then i will absolutely look into this! thank you!

jencmars ,
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@loren I would definitely try it out to make sure it fits your needs, but once it dries it should be good.

You definitely need to give it a few minutes to dry, though - don't stack them right away.

Hope you find something! A pen probably would be easier

loren OP ,
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@jencmars oh yeah that makes sense! i think i remember someone on here marking their pictures with white writing but i can't find them right now, im pretty sure thats where i got the idea but i don't know if that was a premade pen or something like you're suggesting haha

ak ,
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@loren @jencmars I have a white and black version of this pencil, works on prints.

https://a.co/d/8fiyOBJ

loren OP ,
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@ak @jencmars ooo okay that could work! and definitely the right price for me haha

jencmars ,
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@loren @ak Definitely a lot cheaper than investing in a whole bottle of ink and pen(s)!

loren OP ,
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@jencmars @ak hahaha this is true

ak ,
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@loren @jencmars it looks like this btw

loren OP ,
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@ak @jencmars does it smudge easily or is it pretty well on there?

ak ,
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@loren @jencmars it doesn’t really smudge it more wears off if you rub a cloth or something on it

loren OP ,
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@ak @jencmars got it, that makes sense. i may grab one of these to test!

jencmars ,
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@ak @loren Nice! Thanks for the example.
Daler Rowney does offer markers with caps, and you just fill them with your own ink. You probably want to clean them out regularly but they work well. You might also like brush pens, I have one from Pentel that came pre-filled with blank india ink, but I expect it'll work well enough with any water-soluable ink. It's just a matter of personal preference, which can get expensive fast to try with art supplies! 🙃

triploidtree ,
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@loren Posca do white paint pens that are good for writing on things generally. Be patient getting the paint to flow and then it's perfect. Too much paint is messy. Takes a couple minutes to dry.

loren OP ,
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@triploidtree oo okay thank you ill take a look at those!

triploidtree ,
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@loren you can get sets with all the metalic colours too. I've used the black one for stenciling mugs too (bake it for a bit and it's holding up ok, little scratched, came right off the plain glass)

triploidtree ,
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@loren wait, it's the eddings ceramic pens I drew on mugs with. Posca still do a great pen. I label ny plastic plant pots with them

loren OP ,
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@triploidtree yeah i looked into the posca ones and found a fine tip one and so far that looks very close to what im looking for!

triploidtree ,
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@loren they're nice pens! I hope the fine tips work out. The chonky ones are nice but very big

loren OP ,
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@triploidtree yeah i think my mom may have some of the big chonky ones around but for this i really want something thin and fine if anything

Rheall ,
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@loren you could try white out/correction pens! You can buy some pretty fine tipped ones. :)

moss ,
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@Rheall @loren i have relevant knowledge!!

Presto correction pen by Pentel rec by my artist friend who does a lot of mixed media (& did my avatar!). It’s a weird shape, but I did some oceanscapes with it & with bic’s squeeze pen, the presto was way better.

I also just got a sample of De Atramentis Document Ink White to try in a cheap fountain pen & can report back on.

Liquitex acrylic white ink I had a poor experience with it reconstituting inks despite being assured it wouldn’t.

loren OP ,
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@moss @Rheall cool thank you! i was thinking you may have some ink knowledge to share haha. ill look into that presto one, does it dry raised at all? it does look a little tought to write with as well as ill be using it for a signature (that i already am not confident in) im a little concerned on the shape there haha

moss ,
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@loren @Rheall it does dry raised, but less chunky and goopy than box wite-out.

Tbh I think a cheap fine point silver or gold permanent marker would be easiest to handle and very elegant, but if you’re set on white ink lmk and I’ll prioritize my trial of the de Artemis document white :)

loren OP ,
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@moss @Rheall not super set on white, though would look nice i think. ive definitely seen silver around so that might be a good alternative. someone else mentioned posca paint pens and i found a nice looking fine tipped one, any experience with those?

moss ,
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@loren @Rheall I haven’t used posca, but I have also heard good things from multiple people! I wish I could speak to their flow/goopiness vs things like the Sakura Micron gold paint pens or wite out pens but I don’t have experience with them (yet?)

chrisamaphone ,
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@Rheall @moss @loren i actually just this past week got a posca paint pen in the mail to try — light blue/green as opposed to white, but i really like it for how smooth and even it flows. MUCH better than any white gel or paint pen i have ever tried

chrisamaphone ,
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@moss @Rheall @loren
here’s a comparison of several on black construction paper. the medium does matter a lot though so there’s a chance this would be very different for your use case

chrisamaphone ,
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@Rheall @loren @moss also it may not be clear from the sample but the gold (and silver, which i have but couldn’t find for this) Signo writes MUCH better than the white. the ink flow consistency and smoothness could not be more different. the white always takes a lot of priming and re-priming midway through writing

loren OP ,
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@chrisamaphone @Rheall @moss very interesting thank you! yeah ill be writing on a glossy surface but that still helps thank you!

moss ,
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@loren @Rheall if you have a stationery store near you, you can bring a sample of the paper scrap & see if there are any permanent gel pens or other permanent pens/markers to try.

Paint pens, like the gold Sakura micron pens, tend to be really uneven and goopy a la correction fluid, and require a lot of practice to get the flow right—not something you want to be worrying about while signing hopefully a bunch of prints, which is why I think metallic permanent marker in an extra fine tip is smart

loren OP ,
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@moss @Rheall wow yes perfect this is the insight i needed! there are some art stores around that i think i should be able to try some out at! thank you!!

MikeHar94962844 ,
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@loren I've never seen the point of having someone scrawl their name on something that I'm buying from them. Having said that, if you're going to sign them you should do so with a pen. Really though it should be up to the person who's buying them. Of course, if you're not selling them in person that could be tricky.

CorvidCrone ,
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@loren

Do you issue a certificate of authenticity?

aetataureate ,
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@loren i just think this is nice. and your photos are beautiful! they deserve it. if i were going to sign something this way, i'd use a silver sharpie. but i see sharpie makes oil paint markers too. sharpie, the goat!

fitzbew248 ,
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@loren is it possible to only do it if the buyer asks?

loren OP ,
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@fitzbew248 not at this one unfortunately since im not the one actually selling stuff at it

fitzbew248 ,
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@loren oh, I see.

HCBunny ,
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@loren

I say digital is fine, but if someone purchasing in person ASKS, sign it like a human as well!

loren OP ,
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@HCBunny i won't be standing in front of it so that won't be an option but yeah that would make sense!

HCBunny ,
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@loren

Maybe you could offer a limited number WITH AN ACTUAL SIGNATURE. That way you'll have some notion of how popular that option might be.

loren OP ,
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@HCBunny hmm this is true! not a bad idea

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