It was (and is) always so confusing when The Bad Straights claimed “gay people getting married will ruin the institution for everyone.”
But I think they always meant that if two men or two women can get married, then marriage must not be defined by a man obtaining a woman as servant/property & securing exclusive rights to her labor, identity, & body.
And without that, they can’t even imagine what purpose marriage could ever serve.
@philip_cardella@Npars01@Catvalente it all makes so much sense when you look at the history and frame it in terms of a society that's fed itself by maintaining one of the most brutal and massive slave-holding institutions the world had ever seen, and has had its laws and culture and understanding of right and wrong shaped by being in that position for multiple centuries, suddenly losing the de jure element of that structure and spending the next 150+ years scrambling with everything they've got, by any deception or stochastic violence or blasphemous heresy necessary, to put the substance of everything back into the only social, economic and moral order that they can conceive of for organizing a society
@JulieB@Catvalente@abucci I would like to clarify, in case it isn't sufficiently clear to begin with, that this was a position he was characterizing, not one he endorsed.