majorlinux ,
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Further burying heads in the sand.

Instead of trying to create further left parties to combat rising fascism, liberals will just continue to ask you to trust in the system and it will work itself out.

It may be because they benefit the most in telling people to stay the course.

It may be because they don't know better.

But they would rather block people who will challenge their worldview instead of listening to us when we tell them the system is broken.
https://mstdn.social/@Chromino/112791623525565289

benroyce ,
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@majorlinux

primary the fuck out of them in 2026. get 50 AOCs

the problem is thinking the centrist dems are some omnipotent force who lord over us. they don't. so any argument that takes that as a premise is false. just ignore them and build better

when the centrist dems condescend and patronize, stick a middle finger up at them, keep to your primary concerns, vote against trump, route around them, and out organize them

don't center the world on centrist dem crap. wasted mental cycles

majorlinux OP ,
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@benroyce I voted uncommitted this year.

Did it matter to the establishment?

But I was always focusing on Socialism from the jump.

That's why I've been out trying to get my candidate ballot access in two different states.

It's hard work, but it's great work!

GreenFire ,
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@majorlinux @benroyce
Are you "uncommitted" towards preserving democracy?

majorlinux OP ,
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@GreenFire No. I'm uncommitted to Genocide Joe Biden and the billionaire class controlling democracy.

I'm committed to the democracy being built by and for the people.

But I see what you did there.

GreenFire ,
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@majorlinux
And I see that you've been brainwashed by Iranian political technologists to spread the lies they're pushing about their biggest adversary, Joe Biden.

benroyce ,
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@GreenFire @majorlinux

you're not helping

  1. we all oppose trump

that's what matters

  1. in 2026 we get rid of the centrist dems

but you're using 2 as a cudgel against 1

and thus your own words are doing the bidding of divide and conquer here in the service of MAGA and geopolitical enemies

GreenFire ,
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@benroyce @majorlinux
I'm so glad that my ancestors didn't give up on democracy despite it taking a hundred years from the Emancipation Proclamation to get the Civil Rights Act passed into law.

The arc angle is much less acute than I wish it were and sadly it seems to have a sinusoidal nature to it too, but all I can do is endeavor to persevere.

majorlinux OP ,
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@GreenFire @benroyce

So, I see you bring up the Emancipation Proclamation and the Civil Rights Act.

Well, let me tell you as someone who's ancestors died to make sure that happened, those aren't the things you think they are.

The EP was used to just hurt the South's economy. Lincoln couldn't have cared less for the slaves he was freeing.

The Civil Rights Movement is just a reform policy that has the very real possibility of being overturned once Fascism takes place.

GreenFire ,
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@majorlinux @benroyce
Look, you obviously have it in for the left side of the political aisle in the USA so it appears that I'll not find an ally in you to help me fight against the growing threat of fascism so I'll just end this budding conversation until/if we can find an area of shared values.

Are you interested in halting global warming by any chance?

majorlinux OP ,
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@GreenFire @benroyce Just so we're clear here, Socialism and Communism are further left than you are.

It is you who doesn't care for the left if you stand to prop up the ruling class.

The Socialist platform does believe not only in climate change, but climate justice as well.

But because the billionaires don't want us to interfere, we can show what we can do.

Amoshias ,

@majorlinux @GreenFire @benroyce I mean, you're clearly pro authoritarian, whatever your economic philosophy is. And I think that's what he means when he says he doesn't have common cause with you on that front.

GreenFire ,
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@Amoshias @majorlinux @benroyce
Don't trust people that call Scranton Joe a member of the

majorlinux OP ,
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@GreenFire @Amoshias @benroyce How much money is he bringing in for those billionaire donors?

How about any other candidate NOT at the CNN debate?

Amoshias ,

@majorlinux @GreenFire @benroyce whatever you happen to think, he is the president in your lifetime that has done the most to break the control of the ruling class.

For the first time in the last 45 years, the ftc, the sec, and the IRS are doing their jobs.

You may hate Joe biden. But based on what you have said your priorities are, he is the best president to meet those priorities in your lifetime.

benroyce ,
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@Amoshias @majorlinux @GreenFire

right but the point is job 1: defeat trump

not argue about the holiness of joe biden

so why the fuck can't we just agree on the most important thing, leave it at that, and have these ridiculous fucking fights after job 1

jesus fucking christ

Amoshias ,

@benroyce @majorlinux @GreenFire because this person isn't going to vote for Biden; he's an authoritarian, presumably a trump supporter pretending to be a "socialist". So I'm going to have fun pointing out how out of line his rhetoric is with reality. Because I'm in a boring meeting :-/

benroyce ,
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@Amoshias @majorlinux @GreenFire

marcus is voting against trump

unfollowed

jesus fucking christ the left just wants to attack each other, while trump threatens to kill us all

a fucking disgrace

let me be clear:

who gives a fuck about the holiness or lack thereof of joe

job #1 is defeating

period

ALL other concerns are secondary

if the left spends it's time sniping and whining on pointless secondary shit we are fucked

fucked

do people not fucking understand that?

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