Curator ,
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Reasons for adding alt-text to your images on the fediverse:

  • the many blind and partially sighted members of our community will be not be excluded by your toot

  • people on poor internet connections, data-restricted mobile devices, or other technical limitations can still get the context of the image you shared

  • provide extra context and information perhaps not covered in the main body of your toot, making your toot more engaging

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Next toot, how to write alt-text!

Curator OP ,
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How To Write Alt-Text:

  • You don't need to write an essay, and for artists, you don't need to convey the 'meaning' of your work.

  • Is it a photo? Painting? Sketch?

  • What media did you use, and what colours are there? Is it a black and white photo, a bright colourful painting, a sketch with pastels?

  • What are the most important elements? Is it a photo of a horse, a painting of flower, a sketch of some people?

  • What's the tone; is it a moody photo, a calm scene?

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Curator OP ,
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If it's a screenshot of text, write out the text as the alt-text. Mastodon has a feature where you can choose to 'detect text from picture' from the image after attaching it. You do often have to clean up the generated text, and it struggles especially with symbols. See attached, and also read the alt-text to see how I've described this attached image.

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  • Curator OP ,
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    You have 1500 characters to play with (on default Mastodon, at least), but you don't have to use all of them. If you're low on spoons or aren't sure what to write, just adding 'a photo of a dog' or 'a painting of some trees' is better than nothing.

    Once you start getting used to writing descriptive alt text that covers the core elements of the image and conveys the important bits, you can start expanding on that -

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    Curator OP ,
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    For example, 'A colour photo of a dog from the neck up. It's a grey-black short hair dog with white patches that frame its eyes and nose. Its head is cocked slightly and its ears are sticking straight up, and it's looking towards the photographer with an eager expression.'

    Cover the most important things first, then you can play with more detail (but don't go wild; remember, people using screen readers have to listen to what you've written).

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    Curator OP ,
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    Alt text for traditional art can feel more daunting, especially for abstract work. It's fine to describe your abstract piece as 'an abstract work of art', and if you piece is meant to symbolise or convey a particular concept you had in mind when creating it, feel free to say that. For example,

    'An abstract artwork in black and red ink on white paper, with lines that vary in thickness scrawled in a tangled mess. It's meant to represent how my thoughts feel when I have brain fog.'

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    Curator OP ,
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    A lot of people on the fediverse won't boost toots with attached media that doesn't have alt-text, because it's not fair to the blind folk in our community and excludes them from the 'social' part of social media. So if you're here to build an audience around your work, it makes sense to make the extra effort to get into the habit of including alt text with your images; you'll get more interaction with your posts that way.

    However, if you're a spoonie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoon_theory) -

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    Curator OP , (edited )
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    • and don't have the spoons or are otherwise incapable of writing alt-text, there are options! (Also, please, for the rest of us, don't yell at people about not including alt-text. Be nice, be gentle, be informative.)

    You can use the :helpdescribe: emoji in your post to ask for others to help you write alt-text, you can use the hashtag which people keep an eye on to provide alt-text help, or tag the @ imagecaptionspls@a.gup.pe group, and someone will help you out.

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    MurmeltHier ,
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    @Curator

    Huh, didn't know there already exists an emoji for that. Neat!

    Curator OP ,
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    Ooh, one last thing: tips on encouraging use of alt-text!

    If you find a toot you'd really like to boost, but it doesn't have alt-text;

    • Ask the person if they'd be willing to add alt text so that you can boost their post. Be nice.

    • Write the alt-text yourself in a reply to their post, with something like 'adding alt-text here before I boost', then boost it - people often look at replies to see if someone else has added alt-text, and often the OP will add it to their image.

    :bob_ross:

    Ariane ,
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    @Curator one side note, for selfies ask first because for me personally it really creeps me out hard (dysphoria and all) to describe or read a description of myself. I'm sure I'm not alone with that feeling. I know it's irrational and hinders people who need them, but I also have to satisfy my animal brain to feel safe here :blobcatlove:

    Curator OP ,
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    @Ariane Oof yep, great point, and same XD

    Curator OP ,
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    mastodon.art is a safe space instance that focuses on providing a safe environment for the most marginalised people in our community. This includes disabled people, which includes visual disabilities, so it's especially relevant to the culture of our instance that we foster an inclusive, accessible, community.

    https://mastodon.social/@AltTextHealthCheck/112606190351786464

    We're usually around 4-5in the list here with 70-75% alt-text use. For an instance our size, that's pretty great, but I'd still like it to be higher.

    :artcapy4:

    sylvia_ritter ,
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    @Curator Yes, so true, be nice! A lot of people are depressed or have low energy. In these situations even adding text can be a difficult task.

    drakenblackknight ,
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    @Curator
    "* Ask the person if they'd be willing to add alt text so that you can boost their post. Be nice."
    Those last two words are important. A lot of "requests" I receive for alt text read a LOT like cyberbullying and I have to stop myself from blocking the person making the "request."

    jspath55 ,
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    @Curator For automatic reminders when you omit alt-text, bots like @PleaseCaption exist. Coded to auto-reply if you forget, and giving you a chance to remedy right away, before humans notice.

    we_are_spc ,

    @Curator Gods, thank you. We had someone we wished we could mention. Because Neurodevergent issues=not alt text. -t

    18+ shadowfals ,
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    Community members who rely on alt text include Blind folk, people with impairments from color blindness or some arthritises or migraines restricting details, people on data-limited internet connections who have to put in extra work to view each image/video, and a variety of Sighted people who need additional context with media uploads.

    Text as simple as "Selfie from the waist up."
    or "Sunset at the bridge."
    or even "singing to music"
    can help confirm what the file is.

    SuperTaliaDX ,
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    @Curator any tips for alt-text on audio posts? Especially music

    Curator OP ,
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    @SuperTaliaDX I kinda drill down in the same way; instruments, genre, tempo, mood; like it could be 'an ambient electronic track with soft swooshing synths and occasional echoey bass rhythms, that starts slowly and builds in intensity towards the middle, before fading out again'

    SuperTaliaDX ,
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    @Curator thanks!

    rjmoerland ,
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    @Curator as I was doing my best to describe a pose of a model in a photo I posted, I realized that alt-tagging the photo made me study the pose better. I had to be specific about the placement of hands, arms, etc, which will make me more specific about them during the next shoot. Win-win

    Curator OP ,
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    @rjmoerland Ooh that's cool!

    ken_fallon ,
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    @Curator and sometimes you just need to explain the joke for me to get it

    SinkingTeacup ,
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    @Curator As someone who posts paintings, I enjoy the exercise of writing a short description of what I painted, and want to encourage everyone to try it out!

    Mikal ,
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    @Curator

    Something here clicked for me: while I almost always add alt text, sometimes I am doing things like live-posting fast moving events like protests and really don't have time or energy to do it. That means I often simply omit photos. What occurred to me is that in those situations in the future, I can probably put out a call for alt text help and (probably?) get a little tag team to immediately post a description in the first comment. I can then later go back and add it to the image easily when things slow down.

    Curator OP ,
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    @Mikal that's a great idea! :D

    crimperman ,
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    @Curator don't forget that alt text can help those of us with colour vision defiency (aka ) as we can sometimes not see text on images etc. clearly.

    sprakeloos ,
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    @Curator Does a search find alt-text?

    Curator OP ,
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    elala ,
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    @Curator
    Und wenn Text im Bild ist, wird der sogar übersetzt.🤗 I love it.😁

    bmitch ,
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    @Curator to add to the list of reasons: mastodon language translation also includes alt text in what it converts.

    mighty_orbot ,
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    @Curator Also, the search function built into Mastodon will cover alt text as well as the post body!

    wolf ,
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    @Curator

    provide extra context and information perhaps not covered in the main body of your toot, making your toot more engaging

    That ist exactly not the way that alt texts shoud be used. Alt texts has a specific purpose that is to describe in words, what is to be seen on the image visualy. Not less, not more!

    Its not the place for any Kind of "extra information" (no copyright mentions or the like)

    Curator OP ,
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    @wolf I don't mean things like copyright mentions. I mean providing extra detail that is specific to the image and important to the image being shared. For example, I might post a photo of some birds, and my toot might just say 'some birds in our garden', but in the alt text I'll list the species and describe the birds in more detail.

    Curator OP ,
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    @wolf I've had loads of converstions with users of screen-readers here on fedi about what kind of alt-text they prefer. Opinions vary, obviously, because different people like different things, but pretty much everyone I've spoken with prefers interesting and informative alt text, even if it's not particularly concise.

    Lisoo ,
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    @Curator @wolf And what about the rule of "no more than 80 characters" because more could oblige screen-reader users to multiple manipulations ?
    True question about users on Mastodon !

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