If you don’t think there’s a literal civil war going on, set aside five minutes to watch a smidge of Fox ”News” tonight. I don’t think you realize how truly unhinged and detached from reality the Right has become.
@KatM earlier some maniac was on there ranting about how the communists have won, and that is just some next-level insanity for the nation’s... Jesus Christ... most-watched “news” channel. Words don’t even have meaning anymore. @JonChevreau
@violetmadder@KatM@OGjester@JonChevreau Yes. Consciousness-raising is incredibly useful. But if you're already conscious, it's just anxiety provoking and makes it harder to act.
One of my roommates likes to watch those nightly shows or other videos where people are making fun of Trump and all, and it's just not funny to me anymore.
5 minutes of that damn show The Apprentice was enough for me to decide I'd already seen enough, and didn't want to give that grotesquery one more minute in my head. I don't want to hear his voice, not even people doing impersonations to mock him. I don't want to see his face. I don't ever want to give him one more drop of attention or energy than what it takes to say he is a horrible person who needs to be stopped.
@violetmadder@_L1vY_@KatM@OGjester@JonChevreau The day I open a paper, turn on the news, and login to my socials and his ugly, lying, grifter, felon, fucking mug isn't the first thing I see will be glorious.
@philip_cardella I’ll let @_L1vY_ answer that. She lives amongst them. We have Mennonite communities in WA, and they are very rules based, and the womenfolk appear to be beholden to their husbands. Religion is there to hold the men in power and the women and children in their places below the men. So it doesn’t surprise me that religious people are Trump supporters, save a few - like the Carters, who are truly Christian, IMO.
@KatM@philip_cardella@_L1vY_@JonChevreau@lucy_stoner@violetmadder@OGjester I'm related to a bunch of Amish in Ohio, they don't vote at all because it's considered worldly. They are definitely a total patriarchy and if they did vote would probably vote Republican. I seriously doubt my relatives would have a positive opinion of Trump though. My great great grandfather was kicked out of the church and community (shunned) because he married a non Amish, the family never spoke to him again.
@Jennifer I worked for a rabbi who’s family shunned her because they were Orthodox and she married a Christian (later divorced him and married a Jewish man). Then they shunned her because she was a divorced woman rabbi - not in keeping with their orthodoxy.
Religion is too often used as the excuse to mistreat people.
@philip_cardella I understand not all religious. But it is the cause of many wars and inhumane behaviors. I know some wonderful people who are devout Christians, Jews, Hindus, and Muslims. It’s the extremists who mess it up for everyone else. IMO, religion is used by bad people as cover for their ugliness.
@philip_cardella@KatM@_L1vY_@JonChevreau@lucy_stoner@violetmadder@OGjester Finer grained "falling in line or you're out" occasionally results in congregational schisms like he saw over the last six months in the local Amish community: over a hundred people left (in fact, almost all of them left the entire state) because their Elder was taking their community church in directions they thought were too conservative and insular.