@futurebird Wait! What?! Libertarian Convention employed *security? I thought those guys whole existential definition was no laws, no government, do what you want. That would be like an NRA convention that had metal detectors.
@futurebird "an"caps using the circle-A and the "become ungovernable" slogan is the funniest shit ever considering their perfect society is a corporatocracy even worse than the one we currently live in 💀
They don't define words, they play with words despite their definitions. It's a subtle but important difference. That difference goes to the heart of why their brand of politics is just authoritarianism. The ultimate desire of the authoritarian is to dictate objectivity as desired, moment to moment.
You could use the definitions they use against them and they'll just redefine it again and scold you for using an old definition.
Sorry for being a little snappy ... I don't think you are off-base and know what you mean... I'm just tired of getting what feels like criticism "if only the left would..." type statements that don't recognize the functional imbalance in resources. Do you know what I mean.
Oh, I'm cheering on the left there, but I'm also cynical enough to believe that some drastic change needs to happen if the US ever wants their overton window to shift left. I'm hoping for y'all it will happen as having the US become less right would be great everywhere, considering the influence the US has.
@ainmosni@futurebird@itty53@hazelnot The only way drastic change happens is by voting. There will be no revolution, at least not one that ends for the better.
I will never tell anyone not to vote, and I will always vote myself, but do you really think that voting will change how things are now? Why would either the Dems or the Reps want to change a system that locks out most of the competition?
Maybe I'm wrong, but most systems are designed to perpetuate themselves.
Voting alone won't be sufficient. And if we ever had politicians bold enough heed the will of the people on popular issues at all levels we'd find new obstacles would arise.
But voting can make a huge difference in the conditions we try to make these changes under. And the culture around popular control of government is a good start for the wider idea that people ought to generally have some say in the way things they participate in are run.
If anything "the left" is hyper-sensitive to language. But, the left owns no cable networks, and no papers worth mentioning. Without a media machine funded by vast dark money it's not really a contest. This isn't about discipline, or educating each other. It's about raw power.
The one thing we do have on our side is the left wing bias of many matters of fact, and our capacity for compassion and being accepting and supportive of others.
@futurebird@itty53@hazelnot the left also doesn't own a political party, it would be amazing if there was an actual left choice in the states instead of extreme right, and centre right.