dansup ,
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The challenge with a federated DeviantArt platform will be payments, if they can offload that to a 3rd party by allowing users to add links to the store, it could work IMO

Otherwise, each instance would have to host their own Stripe payments account, and other complexities

Not to mention, giving Apple/Google Play 30% of the cut

In @pixelfed, we're handling this by allowing users to add links to specific items that redirect to 3rd party platforms

We can do this, watch me 😎

#notJustInstagram

koteisaev ,
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@dansup Sounds like some federated fiat (micro?)-payments standard is necessary, so often I see contexts where some payments are mentioned regarding ways to support creators, backup plan for indie games authors if MS will buy Valve...
It should be simple as possible and federated. E.g. person adds account to instance, that gives them storefront, and payments processed via local bank payments API's (called by instance). As soon enough for local operator limit payments collected, do local withdraw

grant_h ,
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@dansup @pixelfed federating with dA would be awesome.

Daemon ,
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@dansup what about patreon, tipee, flattr and related platforms?

@pixelfed

kitten_tech ,
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@dansup @pixelfed I'm sad cryptocurrencies didn't work out, this is the sort of thing I was hoping they'd fix...

dashrandom ,
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@kitten_tech @dansup @pixelfed I was about to suggest crypto as a solution actually. But the transaction costs for micro payments could be pretty unacceptable for most people 😕 probably only Bitcoin Cash or Litecoin would have acceptable transaction rates...

kitten_tech ,
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@dashrandom @dansup @pixelfed nano, avalanche, and IIRC another have no fees and quick transactions and no wasteful mining; those technical problems have been solved, but nobody cares because the economics have been so thoroughly corrupted! I'm kinda hoping that something might arise that's just for fun and showing content creators you like them or something, so it actually has a use of its own rather than being defined by its dollar worth on exchanges and all that...

dansup OP ,
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@kitten_tech @dashrandom @pixelfed I'm familiar with Nano, from back when it was called Raiblocks! I'm open to this

https://github.com/dansup/php-raiblocks

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