randahl ,
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Britain used to have the most polluted beaches in the EU, because UK sewage is led via channels directly into the sea.

Fortunately, UK politicians have now solved the problem… by leaving the EU, so the country does now show up in environmental statistics.

But the problem is now even worse in the UK.

https://edition.cnn.com/england-uk-sewage-poop-beach/index.html

KeithC ,
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@randahl our beaches were among the best in Europe when we were in the EU and had the blue flag scheme

randahl OP ,
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@KeithC you removed the blue flag scheme? Why?

jonpsp ,
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@randahl shocking: Thames Water "In November 2023, it was estimated that the company had poured at least 72 billion liters of sewage into the Thames, England’s longest river, since 2020"

celeduc ,
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@randahl and the UK will nonetheless continue to foul the beaches of the EU, as sadly Brexit did not remove the UK from Europe's continental shelf.

LevelUp ,
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@randahl into our seas and I to our rivers.... it's so grim.

xs4me2 ,
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@randahl

And as I learned last year it is all due to the privatization of this sector. Profit before public health and safety. All due to the neoliberal politics that were introduced.
We see it also in the Netherlands that this is introducing undesired behavior and effects. E.g. In the decrease of service in public transport and even the energy sector. Some functions are simply better off in the public sector. But that takes a truely social and democratic governamental view…

GhostOnTheHalfShell ,
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@randahl Leveling up!

TCatInReality ,
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@randahl
Yup, that's what voted for ...

The right to swim in our own shit - and not let foreigners stop us.

pauld ,
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@randahl A direct result of Thatcher selling public utilities off to the private sector. Profits over poop.

fmhilton ,
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@randahl Isn't it odd that the country with the history of the worst outbreak of cholera Britain still has the same problem of untreated waste water. other countries have solved this problem, but they don't want to, I suppose.

OliverNoble ,
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@randahl England used to have ships regularly taking sewage sludge down rivers, into the sea to dump it and that was terrible

  • Now we dont need the ships, gravity does the same job - such an efficient , market-based, solution /s
lyricismist ,
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@randahl If one flies into the uk from Ireland, your inshore waters are mostly brown.

jramskov ,
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@randahl how bad is it in Denmark?

randahl OP ,
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@jramskov The water quality at the beaches in Denmark is quite good actually. Denmark ranks 5th in the EU, and as this graph shows, the poor water quality beaches are in decline (orange curve), while the high quality beaches are on the rise (green curve).

Source:
https://miljotilstand.dk/miljoe-og-sundhed/badevandskvalitet-i-kystvande-og-badevandssoeer

jramskov ,
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@randahl Except for Agersø sund and around Høfte 42 😬

taatm ,
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@randahl
We get a lot of “it’s too complicated to solve… to expensive” and I want to slap them silly!

Polluted rivers and beaches cost us more!

randahl OP ,
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@taatm I wonder if the UK could have a green revolution like Denmark experienced with the party called The Alternative. They had a landslide election in 2015 and got 9 seats in parliament, because other parties have been asleep for decades. Now every party wants to be the green party, which is a good thing.

bjn ,
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@randahl @taatm First past the post voting makes it extraordinarily difficult for candidates outside of the main parties to be elected.

taatm ,
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@randahl I think it’s possible for Green to become a protest vote instead of Lib Dem’s. Frustratingly, past governments that should have, did not bring in preferential voting, so you vote under basically a two party system.

You vote for a main party to stop ‘the other lot’ from getting in. Anything in the liberal spectrum dilutes the left vote and lets the right in and visa versa.

It would take some charisma to change this.

matrakuku ,
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@randahl
True

Tutchth3Hutch , (edited )
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@randahl it is an absolute scandal, and nothing has changed...

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